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    « on: October 17, 2010, 03:04:09 PM »


    Has anyone tried to swap the ItmCommonParam data of 2 items? Is it possible to, say, replace a useless item (Erm..... maybe Mr. Saturn) with, say, another gun by changing the ItmCommonParam data and the model?

    Just speculation, but it would be cool to replace some items.

    Progress so far:

    Swapping the data seems to only partially work. Part of the item's normal function stays. For example, swapping the data of Mr. Saturn with that of a ray gun makes the item stay stationary, but it can't shoot, and acts as a throwing item...
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    « Reply #1 on: October 17, 2010, 03:15:27 PM »


    Not the best idea due to how strict the file size limit of common3.
    It MIGHT be possible, though only if the item being replaced is the same size or larger than the item you want to insert.
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    « Reply #2 on: October 17, 2010, 03:28:22 PM »


    Just how strict is the file size?
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    « Reply #3 on: October 17, 2010, 04:08:27 PM »


    Very. Put it over the original file size and the game will greet you with a
    BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP of death.

    It's a bit less strict when using Riivolution IIRC.
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    « Reply #4 on: October 17, 2010, 04:11:10 PM »


    What if it's under the original size? Will it still death-beep?

    Also, I thought that it just froze the game at the strap loader.
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    « Reply #5 on: October 17, 2010, 04:40:20 PM »


    What if it's under the original size? Will it still death-beep?

    Also, I thought that it just froze the game at the strap loader.
    Shouldn't beep but don't be surprised if it does
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    « Reply #6 on: October 17, 2010, 07:36:21 PM »


    yeah, even if its the same or under the original filesize it can still crash, but new items would be worth a try.
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    « Reply #7 on: October 18, 2010, 04:18:33 AM »


    I made the modifications to the file, I'll test it as soon as I get home from school.

    I expect it to crash XD
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    « Reply #8 on: October 18, 2010, 01:45:38 PM »


    Curious results. I swapped the data of Mr. Saturn with the ray gun's. The game did not crash, and the item made the sound of the raygun when hitting the ground. It didn't walk. But, when I tried to shoot with it, I threw it and it acted like Mr. Saturn, until it hit the ground, where it made the ray gun hitting the ground noise.
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    « Reply #9 on: October 20, 2010, 09:09:19 AM »


    lol? maybe there is more than just the common3 data...
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    « Reply #10 on: October 20, 2010, 01:05:30 PM »


    Well, it could be the single itmParam Miscdata, but I have another theory, though it's probably not correct:

    the brres data is divided with Type7[30] data. Maybe it's only possible within those bounds?

    Probably not, but it's a possibility.
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    « Reply #11 on: October 20, 2010, 03:33:13 PM »


    well there's only one way to find out...
    (dont ask me how that is cuz i have no idea...xD)
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    « Reply #12 on: October 21, 2010, 09:06:12 PM »


    I'm not going to lie here, I had no idea what ItmCommonParam meant.. I thought it was some useless stuff and I did come across the idea is held the attributes of an item.

    This means somone could make Snake's SOCOM pistol over Mr. Saturn!
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    « Reply #13 on: October 23, 2010, 09:12:11 AM »


    XD Possibly, though the swapping seems to only partially work.
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    « Reply #14 on: October 23, 2010, 10:08:27 AM »


    heck, even partially swapping could still turn out awesome.
    *explosion sound whenever Mr. Saturn is thrown*
    lol.

    But anyways, good work on this so far; I hope this can be figured out further. It'd sure be awesome to be able to create new items (and/or "clones").
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