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    « on: October 23, 2010, 04:26:00 AM »


    I try to make a vertex for the hilt of marth's sword. Now, there are more polygons in vertex-set 30. apparently two of these are the hilt he's holding but also the hilt in his hand. I chose for the hand (59), but after editing it's just messed up,  in a way you'd say you need to double patch. That didn't work either. I triple-patched, even quadruple-patched  Undecided. It didn't get really worse, but not better too.

    Anyone know a fix?
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    « Reply #1 on: October 23, 2010, 06:31:48 AM »


    I've heard that that happens with his sword hilt. It needs to be patched a lot.
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    « Reply #2 on: October 23, 2010, 09:40:11 AM »


    when i was in class I patched it about 8 times Tongue. You mean that wasn't enough?
    I'll try it, thanks.
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    « Reply #3 on: October 24, 2010, 11:57:58 AM »


    I patched it about 10 times, and i think it kinda loops. This messed up version showed up a few patches before it exactly the same:

    I seems to be turned a tiny little bit. It needs to be a standard hilt (rectangle) , with a long  handle and the thing below the handle needs to be a tiny block...

    Any ideas? Tongue
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    « Reply #4 on: October 27, 2010, 12:31:00 PM »


    Bumping cause it still isn't solved Tongue
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    « Reply #5 on: November 08, 2010, 10:38:12 PM »


    I edited marths sword a few times quite extremely.. like turning it into a katana


    thing is people don't understand that the "patching" trick is only used for moving bodies.
    props don't really have animating bones, so are static props basically. so don't need need patching. you should use the old vertex method on all props. you can still use the model technique to morph on faces for easier reshaping.. but don't mod any props imported from AIS. wont work. I'm surprised you got that much working on the sword by patching....
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    « Reply #6 on: November 09, 2010, 01:02:10 AM »


    Never thought someone would still pay attention to this!

    Anyway, I thought about giving up on the project, but I will try it again. Thanks!
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    « Reply #7 on: November 12, 2010, 11:35:21 AM »


    Are you still having problems with this?
    I think I may have found a fix for this... it is a bit of an odd technique but it works.

    Let me know if you are still trying to do this Grin
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    « Reply #8 on: November 12, 2010, 12:34:38 PM »


    I should make a tutorial on how to edit Marths sword without all this patching mess. I hear too many people having this problem and it's really simple to fix. I have a feeling DrPandas fix is the same as mine. Grin
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    « Reply #9 on: November 12, 2010, 03:17:58 PM »


    Well, the hack screws up with a lot of other characters, so I kinda given up on the project,
    But I still wanna finish it for myself...

    Unless anyone can help me with that Smiley
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    « Reply #10 on: November 12, 2010, 03:36:51 PM »


    Does it have deleted Polygons?
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    « Reply #11 on: November 13, 2010, 01:33:26 AM »


    Yep, and I know that was probably the problem, but I don't know whih one affects this.

    Edit:
    Here's a list of the polygons I deleted:
    Polygon 2
    Polygon 3
    Polygon 4
    Polygon 17
    Polygon 22
    Polygon 24
    Polygon 44
    Polygon 45
    Polygon 47
    Polygon 48
    Polygon 49
    Polygon 50
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    « Reply #12 on: November 13, 2010, 11:15:11 AM »


    Have you got a version without the polygons removed? Undecided
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    « Reply #13 on: November 13, 2010, 12:13:45 PM »


    Actually, I do (which was a surprise for me).

    So, are you going to tell me to just check which one causes it by removing one vertex per one and test it? Embarrassed
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    « Reply #14 on: November 13, 2010, 02:47:28 PM »


    No, I was actually going to ask you to upload it to see if my fix would work...
    But I realised that I was being a bit retarded and should have asked if you still have the 3dsmax file Tongue

    So do you still have the max file...?
     
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