Project Sasuke: Small Animations Update 1-01-12

[SmashClash]

Are you going to have a Cursed Mark 2 mode? :happy:

[SSJCerious]

No. Sorry, but since this Sasuke is based off his later form in which he has no cursemark, he'll awaken his mangekyo sharingan instead.

[Helix]

Young kakashi needs to join the brawl :P
But that sasuke looks smexy. Nice work .

[SmashClash]

No. Sorry, but since this Sasuke is based off his later form in which he has no cursemark, he'll awaken his mangekyo sharingan instead.

One day when we can color GFXs are you going to make Amaterasu?

[Soul Nami]

WARNING: EPICLY LONG RESPONSE XD

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If I didnt respond to you...dont take it personally, ok? XD

Oh and another suggestion: Can you give the S-Smash a bit more knockback?

[SSJCerious]

@SmashClash
It is a possibility. I actually Have an idea on how it would work, slightly similar to PK Pulse(whatever its called in brawl) :)

@Soul
Sure ;)

[ugoo]

No. Sorry, but since this Sasuke is based off his later form in which he has no cursemark, he'll awaken his mangekyo sharingan instead.

One day when we can color GFXs are you going to make Amaterasu?

I have no idea if this would be possible but couldn't that be made by combining different attacks such as Aura Ball + either Ness PK Fire/Lucas PK fire/Samus Fair. Aura Ball is sort of close to Amaterasu's colour (Not really but it's the closest i could think of in Brawl) and it already does leave that flaming aura effect on any character it hits (Is it possible to make that last longer than it does and cause damage). So if you could change it from a ball shape to something like any of those 3 flame attacks or use it to replace them couldn't that be used as Amaterasu. Again im not sure how possible that is since i don't really know that much about SFX/GFX hacking.

[Soul Nami]

I love what you did with the Down Special. :af:

And another thing with animations:

I don't know if you are planning to do this at all,
but how about if you remove the sword from all animations where he doesn't use it?
Although, I think that can be time consuming. :P

[drsusredfish]

you said there's a video somwhere. I can't find it. Where  is it?

[SSJCerious]

@ugoo
Interesting ideas. I'll bring em up when we come to it.
@Soul
Actually, thats the plan. We are also gonna add sheathing animation at the end of his sworded ones.
@drsusredfish
LOL, my fail XD I added it to the opening post, thanks for reminding me :)

[SiLeNtDo0m]

Ok, so after playing a few battles with Sasuke I'll give some feedback on him:

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AAA combo - Very nice.  I like the animation especially for the first 3 hits.  Very smooth but like Fliptocat said, I think at the moment it does too much damage.  I think for 5 hits it should do more along the lines of 14 or 15%

F Tilt - I like this move alot.  It's simple, nicely animated and the knockback, range and power are all perfect.

U Tilt - I think the animation should be changed here.  It looks a tad awkard at the moment, especially since the end of the AAA combo uses the same animation.  Possibly an uppercut or something?  I dunno.

D Tilt - I actually like how this is just like Marth's D Tilt.  I think it suits him well personally.

Dash Attack - I think this is one move that should be changed.  Marth's Dash Attack was one of his worst moves and since Sasuke at the moment is lacking a good approach move.  Not too sure what it should be though.

F Smash - Like the others have said, this really needs a bit more range.  Although one other thing that I noticed is that the length of time that it charges for is incorrect.  The charging animation should last always for 61 frames but this move has less.

U Smash - I like this out of all the smashes.  Nice knockback and probably his most effective killing move.  Damage could be a tad lower methinks though (17% minimum)

D Smash - Same as Marth's but I think it could be a tad more interesting.  It works though, but I just think for a later release something else would be more awesome :)

N Air - This move is a bit weird to be honest.  It only hits at the top 1/3 of his body (i.e. his arms), it basically functions like an U Air but worse.  I think this could possibly work as a variation of Chidori Nagashi where he is surrounded by electricity

F Air - Same as Marth's but like the D Tilt I think this works nicely.

U Air - Animation swap with Falco's and this works great.  This is probably my favourite of the aerials

B Air - Animation swap with Ike's and again this works quite nicely.

D Air - I'm not too sure about this one.  Part of me says that this should be changed, whilst the other thinks it's an awesome spike and should be kept the same (indecisiveness ftw).

Neutral B - Ah the good ol' Chidori, however there are a couple of problems methinks.  One is that the hitbox timing is weird.  Rarely can I hit the attack even if it kinda should hit.  Second is that the priority is really pathetic.  This is due for two reasons.  One the hitbox simply has the priority bit (Bit 5 in the flags, I'll explain more of that later) turned off and the other is because of the attack's low damage.  8% for an attack that is one of Sasuke's most powerful and signature moves is a tad strange.  I think this should either be structued like .Fade's Rasengan for Naruto (which does high damage and knockback but is hard to land) or it should work as a good approach move with high priority and speed.

Side B - This is only the Fireball Jutsu on the ground at the moment (in the air, it's still Marth's old Side B and only the first hit).  But this is definitely a nice move for catching your opponent and getting a surprise kill.  The only minor graphical niggle I have with it is when you use the move right on the edge of the stage.  Since Sasuke moves back, he kinda falls down a bit then goes back up.

Up B - Unchanged.  I'd like to see what you do with this.

Down B - I was never actually able to properly land this (cuz I suck lol) so I'm not sure as to what it should be at the moment or how it works.  All I saw was an animation change at the moment.

Final Smash - This is clearly a work in progress.  The animation looks pretty dang cool though ;)

So overall, I like Sasuke.  Whilst it definitely needs work in some areas (well of course that's expected from a beta), it's definitely getting there.  I wish you the best of luck with later parts of the project ;)

[SSJCerious]

Ok, so after playing a few battles with Sasuke I'll give some feedback on him:

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[Soul Nami]

@ugoo
Interesting ideas. I'll bring em up when we come to it.
@Soul
Actually, thats the plan. We are also gonna add sheathing animation at the end of his sworded ones.
@drsusredfish
LOL, my fail XD I added it to the opening post, thanks for reminding me :)

I actually tried to make a custom sheathing animation, but his sword translations are weird.

Well, keep going, this project is Win.
Can't wait for its official release!

[Enigmatic]

Just found out about this, can't wait to try to beta! Hopefully I can get it running tomorrow.

Edit:
Tried it out, and my feedback wont be as extensive, but I will give some highlights.

-Needs general nerfing. Most moves do much more damage than they should. Also animations could be smoothed for alot of things.

-I'm not as big a fan of the AAA as others. Having it sent someone up seems unnatural to me.

-Chidori could be modified to look more electric-y. Also in air it is useless. I think he should be able to charge a little bit longer, and travel further, the max distance being about the distance Falco moves with his illusion. The trade off would be having it a bit weaker. I'm picturing something like Ike's side B, but with a bit less distance, longer charge, and at max charge a little stronger. I like how at max charge you can't hold it, it just goes. I think that aspect should be kept to avoid cheapness and stalling.

-Fireball Jutsu is decent, but it needs something. The fire should be bigger, and the move should have a bit less knockback. In the air it should go down at a 45 degree angle.

-Up B ideas:
1) Climbs up in a mild zig-zag with the Chidori very quickly. Goes a little higher than Marth's up-B. The zig zag would only fluctuate mildly, and does so 3 complete times. Hits opponent 3 times, each doing 2 damage. First does 3.
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X      From one side's highest point to the next the distance for the zig zag will be about 1.5 times Sasuke's width.
(I got the idea from one of the games)

2)If just for recovery just rapidly climbs straight up in the air, a little lower than the height of Lucario's extreme speed. If connects with an opponent Sasuke hits them, drags them up with him, then smashes them down with a meteor smash. First hit 2 damage, second hit 4 damage, 6 total. Similar to lions barrage, but really only the end.



Just some ideas. It really feels like you are Sasuke so far, so I am really looking forward to the final version. Kudos to you.

[KTH]

I don't have test the Final Smash, what is the change?

I think for the Down+A Air you can put the attack Shishi Rendan