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Question: (Please read OP first) How much money would you be willing to donate if it virtually eliminated Error 500 messages?
None; I don't have a job/source of income. - 38 (53.5%)
None; I don't mind users leaving kc-mm for another forum. - 12 (16.9%)
None; (other) - 5 (7%)
$1 - $10 (US Dollars) - 7 (9.9%)
$10 - $30 - 4 (5.6%)
$30 - $75 - 0 (0%)
$75 - $150 - 0 (0%)
More than $150 because I'm crazy. - 5 (7%)
Total Voters: 71

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    « Reply #75 on: October 14, 2011, 08:18:34 PM »


    I got a 503 try to come here. I also got the following errors upon posting this:
    696
    123
    404
    505
    Internal 505
    Internal 500
    500
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    These were all one after another. Is this a bad sign?

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    But the good news is you'll be rich before that.
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    « Reply #76 on: October 14, 2011, 08:29:12 PM »


    I'll pack my bags. =D
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    « Reply #77 on: October 14, 2011, 09:15:13 PM »


    At least the off-topic board has been adjusted so that guests can't view it.  That's a good start.

    Another option is to prevent guests from viewing all request boards; texture requests, vertex requests, music requests, etc..

    At least by doing that, it'll reduce bandwidth usage by random guests.
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    « Reply #78 on: October 14, 2011, 09:54:54 PM »


    At least the off-topic board has been adjusted so that guests can't view it.  That's a good start.

    Another option is to prevent guests from viewing all request boards; texture requests, vertex requests, music requests, etc..

    At least by doing that, it'll reduce bandwidth usage by random guests.


    I'm almost sure it's already been done. I think Brawlvault usage may have also been blocked as well, I'm not certain.
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    « Reply #79 on: October 15, 2011, 02:21:31 AM »


    Yup, already done. You guys can just log out for a second and you'll see that the only boards accessible for Guests are: News (for the Rules), Textures, Portraits, Vertex, Stages, Music/SFX, Attacks/Animation, Programming, On-Topic, Help, Tutorial and Guides.
    All request boards, specific Help sub-boards, off-topic things and BV are no longer accessible. Smiley

    We actually did this a few days ago. And removed BV access around yesterday.

    Now, about what I've posted in the Admin section, I wasn't expecting people to agree with it so quickly ... o_o;
    But yeah, I've been reserching around the web to estimate how much an ad from Google could hold the website (it's not like we have any other durable solution). My calculus may have been a bit wrong, since I'm pretty sure impressions =/= pageviews.

    However, we still have around 20 000 unique visitors a month. So with a decently placed ad, we'll most likely get between $160 and $650 which is more than enough to pay a server upgrade for Dantarion. Or the price of a whole new server if it's not possible for Dantarion to upgrade it.

    And uh buh ...bluh ... I've just recieved the answer from Dantarion. o_O

    Quote from: Dantarion
    Hi. I will look into the server logs weekend. The problem isn't too much traffic, it had something to do with the forums and wordpress config. Kcmm uses less traffic than some of my other hosted sites

    ... What the hell.  
    Oh well, guess that should make things even easier. XD

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    « Reply #80 on: October 15, 2011, 02:39:15 AM »


    Oh, by the way, a little complementary information: about yesterday's situation.

    Apparently, on top of the overwhelming popularity of the Waluigi hack, there's been someone trying to attack the boards. (ie: make them lag as much as possible in a malicious intent)

    I'll let you draw your own conclusions.
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    « Reply #81 on: October 15, 2011, 03:36:29 AM »


    Oh, by the way, a little complementary information: about yesterday's situation.

    Apparently, on top of the overwhelming popularity of the Waluigi hack, there's been someone trying to attack the boards. (ie: make them lag as much as possible in a malicious intent)

    I'll let you draw your own conclusions.

    u srs?
    kinda weird... the attacking menace i mean....xD
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    « Reply #82 on: October 15, 2011, 03:52:57 AM »


    u srs?
    kinda weird... the attacking menace i mean....xD
    I've actually got a little bit more info than this, that explains pretty clearly why the attack happenned just yesterday at the worst possible time, but that could restart a flamewar here. Just note tha it's attributed to at least two members of this forum.
    We'll take the appropriate measures to make sure this never happens again, once we have more informations.

    Thankfully for the boards, it was a pretty pitiful attack. A real hacker (in the internet meaning) should have been able to take us down completely. Tongue
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    « Reply #83 on: October 15, 2011, 04:02:19 AM »


    Oh, by the way, a little complementary information: about yesterday's situation.

    Apparently, on top of the overwhelming popularity of the Waluigi hack, there's been someone trying to attack the boards. (ie: make them lag as much as possible in a malicious intent)

    I'll let you draw your own conclusions.
    no body listens to the ex-gm anymore ¬.¬''

    Here's my Pro info though: The Forum itself is nothing but a hand full of text. All the images (except a select few like Badges) are not hosted on our forum. All the bandwidth from loading a forum page will cause is about 2mb at least for just handling the entire page's data of reading MySQL and forming the page. This Error 500/503 is highly possible caused by the vault's generator and it's handling of the data streams. Also since I know about DDoS attacks, this was actually an attempt to do so.
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    « Reply #84 on: October 15, 2011, 08:07:58 AM »


    no body listens to the ex-gm anymore ¬.¬''

    Here's my Pro info though: The Forum itself is nothing but a hand full of text. All the images (except a select few like Badges) are not hosted on our forum. All the bandwidth from loading a forum page will cause is about 2mb at least for just handling the entire page's data of reading MySQL and forming the page. This Error 500/503 is highly possible caused by the vault's generator and it's handling of the data streams. Also since I know about DDoS attacks, this was actually an attempt to do so.

    I fully believe ya. Tongue (One of the people making the most sense right now)

    I can disable / minimize the sig generator for a bit if you think it would help a lot.

    The idea of an attack on us makes me sick... haven't had this issue since DSmeet....
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    « Reply #85 on: October 15, 2011, 08:13:04 AM »


    The Genny is som'in that does help the site alot honestly, but could experement. I would keep it anyways. personally, through own smf experiance on kcmm:e, I'd maybe offer up disabling User Uploadable avis? it's just a small idea, but it'd save some diskspace and a bit of bandwidth. Not much of an idea, but it's another option as most people already use offsite urls for avis.
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    « Reply #86 on: October 15, 2011, 10:28:11 AM »


    Limit sig size, maybe?

    Or move the sig generator to another site?
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    « Reply #87 on: October 15, 2011, 10:38:04 AM »


    Or move the sig generator to another site?
    That's an interesting idea actually.
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    « Reply #88 on: October 15, 2011, 11:19:56 AM »


    Access to BV for Guests has been removed as well. (Not sure if I've mentionned it earlier.)
    Does this still stand?
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    « Reply #89 on: October 15, 2011, 11:45:40 AM »


    That's an interesting idea actually.

    It is, but....

    it has been down for the past few hours without considerable effect. Right now I'm waiting on Dantarion's response --- I'm pretty sure others have also noticed that when the forum is sluggish... that the blog (aside from posting) seems to work fine.
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