[Official] Project M discussion: RIP

[nanobuds]

Will dry bowser have his blue flames or is that not possible?

He will not have them in 3.0. We may or may not be able to add it later in the future, depends if our coders can figure it out.

The special aesthetics for Dr. Mario took a lot of time and coding that can't be easily replicated for each character.

[PseudoTypical]

He will not have them in 3.0. We may or may not be able to add it later in the future, depends if our coders can figure it out.

The special aesthetics for Dr. Mario took a lot of time and coding that can't be easily replicated for each character.

I honestly thought this was going to be a flat "no" simply because of how tedious it would be. This would be so great.

Might as well ask a question myself: are you guys trying to make it possible to have different soundbanks for alt costumes (beyond Dr. Mario's special case)? Even if you're not, could you explain the limitations as of now?

[Jade_Rock]

These look amazing!

Do we have a set release date/month yet?

[Miacis]

We're trying to appeal to the competitive Melee fanbase.

Funny how a lot of people here seem to forget that it's what drives this whole project.

- Ganondorf has had that hilarious Down-Air animation replaced since what, the first iteration of P:M? It wasn't because the animation fitted Ganondorf best (it doesn't; it's Falcon's move), but to appeal to the SSBB FGC community. Because it looks like Melee.
- Differenciating Falco so he's more unique? [censored] that. Make it more Melee. :P
- Wanna playtest? I hope you've been playing in tournaments, or playing with famous tournament-players.

And yet people still wonder why there's so much old stuff in Project Melee.

[ZX_BraveSol_ZX]

hey guys, i got the perfect idea for a sonic alt.
Sonic Generations PC: Sky Troops Speed Run with Legacy Sonic
basically, Sonic with all his little extras from past sonic games. (Soap Shoes, SaTBK Gaunlet, Riders Goggles, etc.)

[Shadic]

- Wanna playtest? I hope you've been playing in tournaments, or playing with famous tournament-players.

To be fair, there's really not that much that a dedicated "low-level" player can tell us that we don't already know. And we have several members that aren't terribly excellent Smash players that have other jobs (video editing, modeling, etc) that we can get commentary from anyways.

As for "Just making everything Melee," that's not really true. There's a huge spectrum of opinions on what we should be doing: "Keep Brawl stuff," "Keep Melee stuff," "Do your own thing," and most people that fall somewhere in the middle. In general, we've been in the second column for most of development, but that becomes less the case as time goes on and we further establish our own identity.

Also please keep in mind that while you may firmly be of the "Stop just being Melee 2.0 plz" camp, we have plenty of vocal people on the other side of the coin. We're able to (generally) please both sets of people, which I think is one of Project M's strongest points.

...Just don't expect Falco to throw his reflector anytime soon.

[Bad Box Art Mega Man]

still wish megaman was a viable option for project m without getting on Nintendo's (or Capcom's) bad side. ever since melee was released I was hopin for the blue bomber (I was young and didn't know anything about copyright infringement at the time). alas, no such luck has happened. and now smash 4 is announced and I have to wait until its release to play as him. i just don't want to replace :ness: to do so. although i loved the megaman series, i also enjoyed earthbound as a child. i just cant get rid of the little guy.

[OmegaMalkior]

"Keep Brawl stuff," "Keep Melee stuff"

...Just don't expect Falco to throw his reflector anytime soon.

This.

For me, Brawl had alot of stuff fixed that Melee just made me and my friends rage. (Biggest thing being Falcon's side-b ledge recovery spasm, which at least P:M fixed).

But there are other things that still get at me from P:M just like Melee did the same. For instance:

1. The no-backwards ledge grab (makes you think you actually landed safe on the stage, when you just fall down to your misery)
2. The insane amount of gravity you have from just plain jumping from air to platform (had so many people raging for Pit's aerial game compared on how he was from brawl) (and  if you by some mistake keep pressing a jab against someone on the edge and they shield, you fall quick since you n-air'd and can't recover :/  )
3. And, personally, my biggest foe, the Melee camera. (This thing drives me dizzy, especially when it's a big stage like temple, and your bouncing around the whole stage, when you tech skills fail as the camera tries it's best to keep up, when the brawl camera just has a wide but fair view of the stage).
4. The no-instant-ledge grab from Melee (you can just abuse the edge-guarding to the point of going from 50-100+ damage in just a few smashes since you can't grab the edge just right ((especially
with C. Falcon, when you fall out of the stage you just can't come back up with that Up-B if you don't make contact with the player )))
Things that just get your bad side of attention at the game, but small compared to how drastically they've made an almost perfect balance of a true smash game as it should have been since the very beginning.

P.S. Personally I prefer Brawl's Falco, as he actually prefers the AIR! (AKA not fall quite faster than Fox in Melee, as the logic that a bird with wings falsl faster than a fully grown fox is master logic. lol
I can understand it's part of his techniques for combos and such, but that doesn't mean P:M team can't redesign him...

[nanobuds]

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Credit to Pik for making this beautiful model <3

[PseudoTypical]

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I thought this was just a recolor from watching the video. That is so freaking clever.

[SwingSet]

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Holy crap. You guys are always full of surprises.

[Pik]

Thanx

[Albafika]

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Oh god eyes! Look at those eyes! Definitely will use ROB for the fourth time of my life for this alternated costume!

[Spex130]

Wait, shoot, did you guys put a screenshot of Virtual Boy Mario Tennis in there?

Holy crap!

[Turb0k]

Holy smexy! That model looks good.