Project Zero (Change Of Plans)

[KILROCK]

Giga Attack should be his Final Smash, not Down B.

I always think of the X6 Giga Attack as his Final Smash, and (maybe) you could use Ness' PK Starstorm for the falling beams.

[lYIaXeD OuT]

Ok we are not doing gaurd shell because we already have something called a shield =P the reflecting bullets one is a NO because well thats cheap as you know what. the shot absorber I dont think is really that gr8. so I guess the only option is the wave slash, w/e it is. But I know there has got to be something out there for a ground down B. maybe some moves from X7 or X4?

[Dan218]

wat about you avatar picture and maybe the final smash could be him turning into nightmare zero and him being indestructible and amazing unfair

[lYIaXeD OuT]

ya um that would be a way to cheap final smash. and thats like what the other PSA had so we dont want to copy it. and like i said before. I dont think his Down B should be any giga attacks. anyways Hey Velen maybe we could do Ensuizan from X6 where he spins his saber rapidly for Down B

[EDIT] ya cuz im getting tired of trying to find a Down B for him. I dont really think the move I said is that gr8 but I really want to find a quality move for him

[Dan218]

what about down b being his dash and if he hits someone with it they take minimal damage

[lYIaXeD OuT]

I dont think a Dash would be appropriate for Down B.  Hey what of his Down B could be a combo move?

[Velen]

what about down b being his dash and if he hits someone with it they take minimal damage

'Fraid not, we already have a dashing move. >_>

I still think Down B should be Skull Smash, we just don't use the one from Command Mission, and instead make the move inspired by X8's Juuhazan attack, or we could employ Earth Gaizer, but make it not on the same level as a Giga Attack.

My only other idea would be to ask Eldrian about a possible Ground B attack.

@Super: We could do that. Maybe make it his Zero Triple Slash Attack (I gave it a Japanese name: Sansetsukou)...Thing is that would probably be his Jab attack instead of his Down B...

[lYIaXeD OuT]

ya that would make more sence, thats more of a tilt than a special. Although I dont really think a spinning move is the way to go.  But like i said, im getting tired, and we are running out of options. I think its down to either Earth Giezer or the Juuhazan. Im starting to lean towards Earth Giezer since I just want to get this decided, and it just seems like a cooler move. but we cant make it too powerful.

[Velen]

Im starting to lean towards Earth Giezer since I just want to get this decided, and it just seems like a cooler move. but we cant make it too powerful.

My thoughts exactly. Zero can make it like your Tenshouha suggestion where it charges up over time... However, we make it so it charges up minimally faster that Wario's.

Zero could perform a punch that launches a flurry of debris above him and on both side, and make it where trying to use the move too often without letting it charge some will cause it to have little effect.

[lYIaXeD OuT]

good idea. The charge time should be about the same time as Robs ultra beam.  The attack sounds good. Im liking the idea. This is going to turn out well. Im glad this Down B has been decided. So this PSA is just about wrapped up. Now whos going to make it? It has to be someone who actually understands these moves.

[EDIT] oh ya so about the final smash, this shouldnt be as hard to think about. So which giga attack are we useing?

[Velen]

good idea. The charge time should be about the same time as Robs ultra beam.  The attack sounds good. Im liking the idea. This is going to turn out well. Im glad this Down B has been decided. So this PSA is just about wrapped up. Now whos going to make it? It has to be someone who actually understands these moves.

[EDIT] oh ya so about the final smash, this shouldnt be as hard to think about. So which giga attack are we useing?

Instead of the obvious Rekkouha. I propose the Final Smash be composed of Zero using three Giga Attacks in succession. Rakuhouha, Massenkou, and Shin Massenkou... If that is possible.

If not. Then Denharei, followed by Hadangeki, then Genmurei, in succession.

or we make up one like Shin Hadangeki (Basically Genmurei except flashier).

[GreenEnvy]

I like these ideas. Just wondering though, on big stages like the Temple, will the Giga Attacks be throughout the whole stage? Or just a minimum range?

[Velen]

I like these ideas. Just wondering though, on big stages like the Temple, will the Giga Attacks be throughout the whole stage? Or just a minimum range?

If we choose Shin Massenkou, it will be like Ness's and be throughout the stage. Same if we have him doing three Giga Attacks one after the other. The first attack will fire small shots, the second one will fire bigger shots, and Shin Massenkou will fire PK Starstorm sized-projectiles traveling upward from the floor.

Then like Denharei -> Hadangeki -> Genmurei, the first will be small, the second will be larger, and the last one (is possible) will be friggin' huge.

It really all depends on what we choose.

[lYIaXeD OuT]

This sounds excellent. Not just one giga attack but three! I would have never thought of that. Anyways Rakuhouha, Massenkou, and Shin Massenkou are those from X4, 5, and 6? because im not good with names but anyways If they are or not, i think that would be a good idea. also can u explain to me what the second set of moves were? Because like i said im not good with names. But I love this idea

[Velen]

This sounds excellent. Not just one giga attack but three! I would have never thought of that. Anyways Rakuhouha, Massenkou, and Shin Massenkou are those from X4, 5, and 6? because im not good with names but anyways If they are or not, i think that would be a good idea. also can u explain to me what the second set of moves were? Because like i said im not good with names. But I love this idea

Shin Massenkou is from X5 and 6.

Denharei is one of Zero attacks when you fight him in X5 and Zero Nightmare in X6. Basically Zero launches a small slash wave that homes in on the target.

In our version however, it will be a bit larger, and won't home in.

Hadangeki is from X7, and is one of Zero's Command Arts, like Denharei, we just make it a bit bigger.

Genmurei is Zero's super slash wave attack from X5. It could kill X instantly. We could power it down a bit for Brawl though.

Though if we do the three explosion attacks. It should go Massenkou -> Rakuhouha -> Shin Massenkou. As each one supersedes the next in terms of size and power.