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    « on: July 24, 2014, 03:49:46 PM »


    Introducing..SUPER SMASH BROS BRAWL!...OC STYLE!

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    PLOT!
    This plot for this overhaul takes place a great deal of time after Super Smash Bros Brawl. The characters in this story are not sons and daughters but the reincarnations of the original super smash bros brawl roster. Each character will be an original concept brought to the table by a different user. I wanted to do it this way so we could make sure every character is unique to it's own. Of course there will be some that I've done myself and some that have been done by the team, but I urge you all to bring your own ideas to the table.

    Continuing on the actual plot. One sudden day, twenty-four people were summoned to vast island that they will later learn is floating in the sky. When they all gathered to the center, they are greeted by the man who summoned them, Baphomet, otherwise known as the reincarnation of Tabuu. Baphomet tells them that they've been summoned here to compete in a tournament. A tournament that will grant the the greatest prize the world has to offer..They will become the God of this world. Immediately, the majority of the fighters become interested. He told them they would begin at dawn of the next day and showed them to their lodgings. Some of the fighters were skeptical of the challenge, but overall they were excited. A simple tournament in which they fight and the losers are removed from the island...simple right?

    Wrong.

    After the first match takes place, the loser returns to his room to start packing his things. Later that night, while the loser is sleeping, a shadowy figure approaches the room and murders the loser right then and there. The next morning, there is a scream in the lodgings. The 23 fighters rush to the scene to find the loser dead in his room. Immediately after discovering this, Baphomet calls them all back to the greeting point. Hoping to get some answers as to why this has occurred, one of the fighters speak up and ask. After hearing his/her question, Baphomet only grins before telling them "I never said when you lose you get to go back home. I just said you had to win." With this in mind, the fighters break into an outrage, demanding that he sends them home or they will refuse to fight. He then tells them that they will fight or he will kill them where they stand. That no matter how you slice it, only one person will remain victorious. It's at this point that a group of the fighters decide they will band together, despite their differences, and work to defeat the assassin of the night and put a stop to Baphomet's plans. However, there are some that feel differently..

    Despite what they've learned, this group of fighters have decided to continue on with the tournament, knowing full well what will happen if they lose but being more interested in what will happen if they win. These characters are the antagonists, banded together for the soul purpose of eliminating every other obstacle in their way until it's become just them, then it's a fight to the death between the lot of them. This story is one of a rather serious and dark origin that takes the concept brawl and gives it a sickening twist. I aim to introduce a classic Protagonists vs. Antagonists Storyline that will have the players coming back again and again. Though.. the question is.. if you were put in this position..who would you choose?

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    Raptor(Made by KingOfChaos)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP1st4pYGhc

    Being brought from the time period where dinosaurs still roamed the earth, Raptor was brought into the tournament with a secret promise made by Baphomet that if he became god of this world he could completely re-write it's history so that dinosaurs still ruled and humans were inferior to their species. Raptor would be the reincarnation of Yoshi(figured it was fitting due to the whole dinosaur thing). Another reason Raptor makes a good fit as the reincarnation of Yoshi is due to the storyline I have planned for him. At first he would enter this tournament distrusting humans, having it out for every single one of them; but after spending some time on the island, he makes friends with the reincarnation of Mario( who has yet to be announced. If anyone has any ideas then let me know). After that, he becomes a loyal friend to the reincarnation of Mario, the two becoming an unstoppable pair.

    Baphomet(Made by Mortimer)


    I'm sure the plot explains is rule well enough but I had to add him like I did the rest. Baphomet is the one in charge of the tournament and the reincarnation of Tabuu. His origin is unknown and he's just about one of the creepiest dudes to look at in existence but that's not what gives him such a feared reputation. Rumor spreads around that Baphomet is able to ressurect the corpses of the Old Brawlers and summon them for battle at will. Having such a terrifying power would scare anyone into submission, right? It scares me  Cry. I don't want to say much about Baphomet's role in this all due to plot exposing but just know there's more to him than meets the eye. He may be a powerful foe, but he's got a secret that nobody can know, and once you find it out, it will leave you breathless.

    Mellow Valentine(Model by NascaCorp.  Concept by Mr.Misfortune)


    Coming in as the reincarnation of Fox, Mellow Valentine a.k.a The Fox Man is one of the more mysterious fighters to be summoned to the tournament. Playing the role of the "middle man", Mellow assigns himself to no side and does what he feels like doing whenever he feels like doing it. He's one of those "live in the moment" types you know? Due to nobody being able to tell what he's thinking behind the mask, people distrust him. In all actuality, he's the most distrusted person on the island; Right below Baphomet.

    Mellow has a very special role that he will play in the storyline but that's all I can say for now. He's going to be one of the more significant characters to watch. Rather, if you don't watch him you'll be sorry.

    Lt. Pheonix(Made by ShadowLuigi-NG-)


    Now do I really have to explain this one? Really? Alright then. Coming strapped with the flames of the pheonix and a few weapons to boot is Lt. Pheonix. I bet you won't be able to guess who she's the reincarnation of.. guess..guess..Can'g guess? It's Kirby. No just kidding It's Captain Falcon. Lt. Pheonix is a woman whose basically idolized Captain Falcon her entire life and has dedicated said life to living it just as he would, carrying on his legacy for as long as she could. Taking residence in a newly remodeled "Blue Falcon" she aims to win this tournament and bring back Captain Falcon. She wishes to do so not because she wants to be together with him or even marry him. She just wants an opponent that can match her speed; and as it seems, nobody is able to do so(She hasn't meet the reincarnation of sonic yet).

    Her role in this story is pretty straight forward. She's that badACE character you love to see in action. Being able to perform moves such as the "Pheonix Punch" and "Pheonix Kick", she's generally a carbon copy of Captain Falcon with a bit of adjustments added to make her more original to her character.

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    I've been thinking hard about it and...why don't we make a few global gamplay changes that freshen up the game, eh?

    EDIT: Re-did a Perfect Shield Buff

    Give your Rating, Preference, and (optional) Idea to make it better.

    Red = Nerfs
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    Purple = Special Case
    Blue = New Mechanic/Property/Gimmick

    • Re-purpose and nerf regular shields, but buff perfect shields.

      What I'm getting at here is to promote well timed strategy and punish shield spammers.
      When you shield, your shield will go under a special effect; it will no longer pull inward and degenerate, instead, now shields act like a healer, they heal you as you are shielding. However, as a side effect, shields are generally weaker, due to heavy shield DMG and shield stun. Shields will also regenerate at 1/3 speed, verrry slow.
      However, perfect shields will have 4 effects. PF Shields will be easier to time. This would mean that you will need to read your opponent as well as you can, shield accordingly, but with a better chance of actually proficiently blocking the attack. The buffs are that the opponent staggers when the are PF Shielded. This would mean that you could follow up with a combo and attack the opponent with other moves. The second buff is that PF Shields will heal you by 10%. The final buff is that PF Shields will regenerate your entire original shield.

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    • Add and Rework the L-cancel mechanic.

      I may just sound like a sucker for SSB: Melee when I say this, but I like the L-cancel Mechanic. It adds depth to competitive play and it's over all awesomely satisfying to actually chain together combos that would normally be impossible without L-cancels.
      But enough of my rambling, on with the rework.
      L-cancels would function relatively the same as they do in SSB64. They will remove ALL Landing Lag.
      However! That only happens below 100%. At 100% percent and onwards, L-cancels only remove 1/2 of the landing lag of an attack. And then the other change, L-cancels are easier to do at lower percents, where the L-cancel window is 20 frames. (Compare that to Project M and Melee's L-Cancel, which was 7 frames), but as you gain more DMG, you lose more frames to prefom an L-Cancel. At around 120%, L-Canceling wil be Melee's 7 frame, and at 220%, you will lose L-Cancels altogether.

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    • DI Buff

      Directional Influencewww.ssbwiki.com/Directional_influence (or DI), is a very useful technique for survival, and is very necessary for surviving powerful attacks and combos. However, it just got more useful. While Original Brawl DI only allows you to change your trajectory, This Brawl allows you to alter the speed, as well. Tapping the C-Stick now no longer acts as a second stick to change trajectory with, it now alters the speed in which you fly at. This means that you are now able to survive multiple powerful attacks with fast reaction.

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    • All Characters will have some type of Gimmick or Mechanic that differs them from other Characters

      Self-Explanitory, but I might as well elaborate. What I mean is something that truly makes the character special. For example, in Project M, Lucario had a special mechanic where if he dealt a certain amount of DMG, he could power up 1 of his specials and do a "Super" version of it. (Super powered Neutral B was Spirit Bomb, you may have seen it in Project M combos) Other Characters would have something along those lines, keeping the character selection fresh and not just because they have different moves. It also encourages creativity with the moveset. For example, Phantom Bullet now has a Melee Air-Dodge, which allows him to wavedash. With wavedashing, he can freshen up his moveset.

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    • Tech Nerf

      For our first true nerf on this list, it's kinda important. Teching is very useful, and is widely known to be able to save a player at 999%. However, due to the DI Buff, we have to balance this out. Teching will go under the treatment that L-canceling did. 25 Frame window to tech at 0%, 10 frame at 120%, Cannot Tech at 300%.
      Teching does increment your Shield meter though.

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    • Meteor Cancel Removal

      Due to the DI buff, Meteor Canceling needed to be removed.

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    • Negative Drive

      I hated how the final smash worked in Brawl. Chasing around a friggin' BALL to get an ultimate attack? No. How about Negative Drive? Negative is basically a super mode. You have infinite recovery, you now have an on-hit-cancel, all your attacks are powered up, and they sometimes gain special abilities. To enter Negative Drive, you need to deal 150% of DMG in a single stock, or you can grab the Smash Ball. When you are able to enter, use any of your taunts and hold down B. You can also press A+B to unleash your Final Smash.
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    « Reply #1 on: July 24, 2014, 03:58:40 PM »


    Well, even though the Subspace Emissary has an interesting plot that actually was hinted at even in SSB64, I'm interested as to what your plot is. Smiley
    (I was actually gonna make my own plot and make a sequel to TLOZ: Twilight Princess, myself Grin )
    *If you're interested at all in it, I was soon(Within the next few weeks or so) going to start my custom games thread, in which case I would have it listed there, along with the other games I was gonna make.*
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    « Reply #2 on: July 24, 2014, 04:34:35 PM »


    Well my overall plot was this. We could create some master entity, something like Tabuu, and have him summon people from all over the world to compete in this competition. The competition would of course be a tournament devised to see who out of the handful of people he brought would be the strongest. At first the people believe this is a golden opportunity, knowing that all they had to do was kick a few heads in and get a glorious prize, it was something anyone would kill for.

    However, that's exactly it. Kill. Once the fighter loses, he doesn't just get up and go home, the Tabuu type has said person executed in secret. Once the fighters begin to catch on to what's happening. They realize they have to band together in order to defeat said man and escape their twisted fate(The Protagonists). Some however, knowing full well what would happen, have chosen to execute the players anyway, seeking the glorious prize for themselves(The Antagonists).

    Now at this point, it's become a Protagonists vs. Antagonists battle. The Antagonists aren't exactly working for the Tabuu type character. They are solely looking out for themselves and doing whatever it is they need to do in order to survive this place and go home. They could care less about how they do it(Though I'm totally down with the idea of having a mole type character).

    How it would be implemented into subspace would be easy. Having the protagonists take the places of the protagonists in brawl and the antagonists being made over the antagonists of brawl. Then we could Tabuu with a Tabuu of our own.

    Anyway, that's my idea on how the OC brawl could work storyline wise. Of course each would have their own reason for being involved in the tournament in the first place. Also, they characters won't know it, but the grand prize is to take the place of the tabuu type character and let the others go free. Of course they won't find that out until the end. The prize is to be god of that world, ups and downs included.

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    « Reply #3 on: July 24, 2014, 07:23:45 PM »


    This sounds like a great idea, though I'm still debating with myself whether I should help.  I'd love to, but I feel like I'm pressed for time this summer.

    Would we replace EVERY character with a brand new one?  I mean that everyone only has ONE replacement character.  Or would it be like Tyshy's Super Smash Sisters, where a LOT of people have Peach rels?
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    « Reply #4 on: July 24, 2014, 07:27:42 PM »


    Pretty good story-line; has a Brawl feel, being similar, but not exact to the original SSE story Smiley

    Here's an interesting thing  you could add onto the plot, too: The bosses(Master Hand, Rayquazza, Ridley, etc.) are actually clones of Tabuu that had their shapes deformed when cloned, but they have the same evil lurking inside them, bent on taking over the universe; eventually, they will end up facing each other off, with you in the middle and Tabuu coming to your side after realizing that "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." So, you(All the SSB fighters) fight alongside Tabuu to defeat the clones who are battling against each other.(They are identical, so none of them can win, but whoever is in the middle can get hurt, and because they are clones, they aren't dynamic like the original Tabuu, so they won't be able to change, and will forever battle each other.)
    Then, after you and Tabuu fight them, Tabuu secretly clones himself perfectly, but with a modification to the clones that allows them to know that they are not Tabuu; he secretly does this while sending his minions(Primids, Bytans, Towtows, etc.) to attack you(All the characters). When he is done cloning himself and you discover that he did so, he conveniently cloned himself the same number of times as there are characters, so that you can choose whomever to fight against a clone; then, after all the clones are defeated, you face Tabuu himself, but you(Player) are the only one he is not able to turn into trophies by his move where he does the purple rings that insta-ko you on hardest mode.
    After Tabuu dies, everyone is returned, including Tabuu(But not his clones), and no recollection from anyone of what happened, so that you can have a legit reason to do the game over-and-over again.

    Another idea that's related: The antagonists could come to the protagonists' aid, teaming up like in original SSE story.

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    OOH! It could also be programmed in Unity by a bunch of us that want to help, to make it simpler to make. Smiley
    I made a poll here, actually, to ask people if we should make an SSBB for Unity:
    http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=69741.0
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    « Reply #5 on: July 24, 2014, 09:12:34 PM »


    This sounds like a great idea, though I'm still debating with myself whether I should help.  I'd love to, but I feel like I'm pressed for time this summer.

    Would we replace EVERY character with a brand new one?  I mean that everyone only has ONE replacement character.  Or would it be like Tyshy's Super Smash Sisters, where a LOT of people have Peach rels?


    I think we should replace EVERY character with a brand new one. I don't want to create something that has multiple rels of just one character. I want every single character to be unique in their own way and have something completely different about every single one of them.

    http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=35649

    This here is my OC(Made by NascaCorp) and he's known by Mellow Valentine(Link doesn't work in the description)

    He's not a rel, he's something completely original you feel me? Also if I can, i'd like every contributor to put a character in. Everyone can have a part in it!

    Pretty good story-line; has a Brawl feel, being similar, but not exact to the original SSE story Smiley

    Here's an interesting thing  you could add onto the plot, too: The bosses(Master Hand, Rayquazza, Ridley, etc.) are actually clones of Tabuu that had their shapes deformed when cloned, but they have the same evil lurking inside them, bent on taking over the universe; eventually, they will end up facing each other off, with you in the middle and Tabuu coming to your side after realizing that "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." So, you(All the SSB fighters) fight alongside Tabuu to defeat the clones who are battling against each other.(They are identical, so none of them can win, but whoever is in the middle can get hurt, and because they are clones, they aren't dynamic like the original Tabuu, so they won't be able to change, and will forever battle each other.)
    Then, after you and Tabuu fight them, Tabuu secretly clones himself perfectly, but with a modification to the clones that allows them to know that they are not Tabuu; he secretly does this while sending his minions(Primids, Bytans, Towtows, etc.) to attack you(All the characters). When he is done cloning himself and you discover that he did so, he conveniently cloned himself the same number of times as there are characters, so that you can choose whomever to fight against a clone; then, after all the clones are defeated, you face Tabuu himself, but you(Player) are the only one he is not able to turn into trophies by his move where he does the purple rings that insta-ko you on hardest mode.
    After Tabuu dies, everyone is returned, including Tabuu(But not his clones), and no recollection from anyone of what happened, so that you can have a legit reason to do the game over-and-over again.

    Another idea that's related: The antagonists could come to the protagonists' aid, teaming up like in original SSE story.

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    OOH! It could also be programmed in Unity by a bunch of us that want to help, to make it simpler to make. Smiley
    I made a poll here, actually, to ask people if we should make an SSBB for Unity:
    http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=69741.0


    I dig that idea pretty hard, but let me put on a spin on it to throw it more towards the OC's direction. What if each one of those bosses had indeed been cloned by tabuu..BUT! The souls of said clones were placed into certain fighters at birth(Of course these fighters wouldn't know that it was the reason they were gathered here).

    Matter of fact. We can take it a step further and say that EVERY character is an reincarnation of one of Nintendo's characters. Though that's just a thought. It doesn't have to swing that way if you don't want to.

    I also like the whole Tabuu working with the main characters in order to take down the clones he's created, but I feel it should be taken in this way. In order to kind of introduce that mole-type character, we could have Tabuu destroy the reincarnations of the bosses in secret with said character. Tabuu and That character forming an alliance behinds everyone's back to get the job done.

    After Tabuu and said character get the job done, he clones himself and stabs that character in the back, announcing to everyone what said character has done and that character is outted by the other fighters. He then gives that character the power to summon things like primids and other enemies to attack the fighters(making him the current main antagonist of the story and throwing Tabuu's track off for a bit).

    After getting rid of that character. You find that Tabuu has secretly excecuted a number of fighters and replaced them with clones.(thus bringing the whole clone character thing in the mix. Also when you have to fight the shadow versions in SSE that could explain why they are there). So now you and the antagonists have to team up in order to defeat the remainder of the clones so you can get to Tabuu.

    Tabuu realized that he is unable to turn the main protagonist into a trophy so he attempts to make him seem the bad guy and have the other characters execute him; but he convinces them otherwise and gets them back on his side before he has to take down Tabuu.

    Once Tabuu is defeated, the main protagonist becomes Tabuu and the entire thing is reset. He then learns from Tabuu that this has been a chain of events that was repeated over and over again and hopes that in the next world he can finally put a stop to this twisted chain. It'll give the player a reason to play the game over and over again without rest.

    How does that sound for an idea?
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    « Reply #6 on: July 24, 2014, 09:23:56 PM »


    I think we should replace EVERY character with a brand new one. I don't want to create something that has multiple rels of just one character. I want every single character to be unique in their own way and have something completely different about every single one of them.

    http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=35649

    This here is my OC(Made by NascaCorp) and he's known by Mellow Valentine(Link doesn't work in the description)

    He's not a rel, he's something completely original you feel me? Also if I can, i'd like every contributor to put a character in. Everyone can have a part in it!

    I dig that idea pretty hard, but let me put on a spin on it to throw it more towards the OC's direction. What if each one of those bosses had indeed been cloned by tabuu..BUT! The souls of said clones were placed into certain fighters at birth(Of course these fighters wouldn't know that it was the reason they were gathered here).

    Matter of fact. We can take it a step further and say that EVERY character is an reincarnation of one of Nintendo's characters. Though that's just a thought. It doesn't have to swing that way if you don't want to.

    I also like the whole Tabuu working with the main characters in order to take down the clones he's created, but I feel it should be taken in this way. In order to kind of introduce that mole-type character, we could have Tabuu destroy the reincarnations of the bosses in secret with said character. Tabuu and That character forming an alliance behinds everyone's back to get the job done.

    After Tabuu and said character get the job done, he clones himself and stabs that character in the back, announcing to everyone what said character has done and that character is outted by the other fighters. He then gives that character the power to summon things like primids and other enemies to attack the fighters(making him the current main antagonist of the story and throwing Tabuu's track off for a bit).

    After getting rid of that character. You find that Tabuu has secretly excecuted a number of fighters and replaced them with clones.(thus bringing the whole clone character thing in the mix. Also when you have to fight the shadow versions in SSE that could explain why they are there). So now you and the antagonists have to team up in order to defeat the remainder of the clones so you can get to Tabuu.

    Tabuu realized that he is unable to turn the main protagonist into a trophy so he attempts to make him seem the bad guy and have the other characters execute him; but he convinces them otherwise and gets them back on his side before he has to take down Tabuu.

    Once Tabuu is defeated, the main protagonist becomes Tabuu and the entire thing is reset. He then learns from Tabuu that this has been a chain of events that was repeated over and over again and hopes that in the next world he can finally put a stop to this twisted chain. It'll give the player a reason to play the game over and over again without rest.

    How does that sound for an idea?


    It sounds awesome Smiley
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    « Reply #7 on: July 24, 2014, 10:33:07 PM »


    Definitely. So do you think they should all be reincarnations or just the bosses?
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    « Reply #8 on: July 24, 2014, 11:01:10 PM »


    This is an amazing idea! There is some new research going on in herehttp://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=66985.0 that would really set this project off! I'd help with some SSE Level Designs, PSA, Stages, Boss Programming, and other stuff.
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    « Reply #9 on: July 24, 2014, 11:37:29 PM »


    Holy COW! Not much of it makes sense but it's awesome to see that progress is being made! But hey, if everyone is down with this idea, we can make it something big.
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    « Reply #10 on: July 25, 2014, 09:19:24 AM »


    Definitely. So do you think they should all be reincarnations or just the bosses?

    I might suggest creating a poll for that, seeing what other people think Cheesy
    But, if you ask me, both sound  cool. Grin
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    « Reply #11 on: July 25, 2014, 09:46:40 AM »


    How does one create a poll?
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    « Reply #12 on: July 25, 2014, 10:28:42 AM »


    How does one create a poll?

    The same way you created the topic, only instead of "New Topic", click "New Poll"; it basically describes what each button does. They're good at explaining things. Grin
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    « Reply #13 on: July 25, 2014, 11:51:31 AM »


    Alright I can do it in a bit. Though i'd like to hear a few others opinions before I go creating a poll. At the moment it's just four people who've been responding to this thread.
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    « Reply #14 on: July 25, 2014, 01:02:04 PM »


    Alright I can do it in a bit. Though i'd like to hear a few others opinions before I go creating a poll. At the moment it's just four people who've been responding to this thread.


    With 104 views, and only us and two others participating, I have doubts that people are actually subscribed to notifications to this topic, so I would highly suggest creating a poll; here's what you could say for the poll:

    In this topic( http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=69733 ), which ideas do you like best?

    Windhunter7's
    Mr. Misfortune's
    I like both Smiley
    Meh; don't really care Tongue
    I didn't even know about that topic Shocked

    Just sayin', but I'm not actually trying to compete with who has the better plot; I think we should combine our ideas instead; that's just for poll purposes, as polls should have shorter questions. Smiley
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