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Title: O_O Did you see this Ganon?!!!! CLICK NAO!
Post by: SmashClash on January 26, 2011, 11:34:40 PM
It's the best Ganon PSA I've ever played/seen. It's by Nyspa.
Master Ganon: http://space.geocities.jp/nyspafire1992/PSA/psa_space.html
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Post by: Fliptocat on January 26, 2011, 11:43:50 PM
Oh my gosh, This is insane! That final smash.... And the neutralB... It's so awesome!
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Post by: Velen on January 26, 2011, 11:57:58 PM
Find me a video. I dun have Dolphin or the HBC right now.
Title: Re: O_O Did you see this Ganon?!!!! CLICK NAO!
Post by: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 12:04:32 AM
Quote from: Fliptocat on January 26, 2011, 11:43:50 PM
Oh my gosh, This is insane! That final smash.... And the neutralB... It's so awesome!
It's probably going in my SD Card permanently. This beats all Ganons I've played as which says a lot.

Can someone make a video about his moves.
Do B-Side in the air on someone.
Down Taunt activates another PSA.
This is so awesome.
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Post by: Gamma Ridley on January 27, 2011, 12:08:41 AM
Quote from: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 12:04:32 AM
Can someone make a video about his moves.
Do B-Side in the air on someone.
Down Taunt activates another PSA.
This is so awesome.

I probably could. I haven't made a video in a while....
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Post by: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 12:12:20 AM
Quote from: Gamma Ridley on January 27, 2011, 12:08:41 AM
Quote from: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 12:04:32 AM
Can someone make a video about his moves.
Do B-Side in the air on someone.
Down Taunt activates another PSA.
This is so awesome.

I probably could. I haven't made a video in a while....
Yay! People need to see this.
I know it may be a lot but try to show all his moves, taunts, wait animations, etc.
Title: Re: O_O Did you see this Ganon?!!!! CLICK NAO!
Post by: Gamma Ridley on January 27, 2011, 12:13:17 AM
Quote from: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 12:12:20 AMYay! People need to see this.
I know it may be a lot but try to show all his moves, taunts, wait animations, etc.

I can do that, I've got a pretty chill day ahead of me...

I'm assuming he has a new moveset for every taunt, right?
Title: Re: O_O Did you see this Ganon?!!!! CLICK NAO!
Post by: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 12:14:10 AM
Quote from: Gamma Ridley on January 27, 2011, 12:13:17 AM
Quote from: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 12:12:20 AMYay! People need to see this.
I know it may be a lot but try to show all his moves, taunts, wait animations, etc.

I can do that, I've got a pretty chill day ahead of me...

I'm assuming he has a new moveset for every taunt, right?
Just for down taunt.
Title: Re: O_O Did you see this Ganon?!!!! CLICK NAO!
Post by: Gamma Ridley on January 27, 2011, 12:16:32 AM
Quote from: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 12:14:10 AMJust for down taunt.

Ah.

Any particular vertex/texture you would like for me to use? I've got Darkrai, Deathborn, Black Shadow, and some dude from Megaman whose name is eluding me at the moment.
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Post by: Fliptocat on January 27, 2011, 12:19:25 AM
^Sigma? I'd prefer him. :)
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Post by: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 12:21:02 AM
Or Red Demon Knight?(In BrawlVault)
Title: Re: O_O Did you see this Ganon?!!!! CLICK NAO!
Post by: Gamma Ridley on January 27, 2011, 12:21:47 AM
Quote from: Fliptocat on January 27, 2011, 12:19:25 AM
^Sigma? I'd prefer him. :)

That's the one. XD I couldn't remember his name...

Quote from: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 12:21:02 AM
Or Red Demon Knight?(In BrawlVault)

I'll look that one up.

Video should be up... later today.
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Post by: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 12:22:21 AM
K, good luck and great. :)
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Post by: xZedkiel on January 27, 2011, 12:26:44 AM
Use Darkrai XD
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Post by: Psycho Philia on January 27, 2011, 12:28:04 AM
This is an interesting Psa, honestly, very well made, but for me he is too powerful, so he won't be in my sd card! :laugh: But the one who made him made a good work!
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Post by: Gamma Ridley on January 27, 2011, 12:38:18 AM
I'm testing him out right now.

Good Lord is he broken. XD

Oy.

Also, Red Demon Knight is win.
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Post by: Fliptocat on January 27, 2011, 12:42:38 AM
Have you tried the final smash? Or side B in air? They're insane. XD
Title: Re: O_O Did you see this Ganon?!!!! CLICK NAO!
Post by: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 12:49:34 AM
Quote from: Fliptocat on January 27, 2011, 12:42:38 AM
Have you tried the final smash? Or side B in air? They're insane. XD
He's a perfect match against Max Onslaught Falcon...
But Ultimate Shadow Pikachu's still wayyyy too broken/cheap.
Title: Re: O_O Did you see this Ganon?!!!! CLICK NAO!
Post by: Gamma Ridley on January 27, 2011, 01:01:08 AM
Quote from: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 12:49:34 AMHe's a perfect match against Max Onslaught Falcon...
But Ultimate Shadow Pikachu's still wayyyy too broken/cheap.

Just beat MAX Onslaught. :af:

Video's done, just need to edit and such.
Title: Re: O_O Did you see this Ganon?!!!! CLICK NAO!
Post by: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 01:02:46 AM
Quote from: Gamma Ridley on January 27, 2011, 01:01:08 AM
Quote from: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 12:49:34 AMHe's a perfect match against Max Onslaught Falcon...
But Ultimate Shadow Pikachu's still wayyyy too broken/cheap.

Just beat MAX Onslaught. :af:

Video's done, just need to edit and such.
Hooray!
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Post by: Gamma Ridley on January 27, 2011, 01:18:44 AM
Hmmm... should I put labels saying what each move is?

It'll take longer, but it's a nice touch.
Title: Re: O_O Did you see this Ganon?!!!! CLICK NAO!
Post by: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 01:20:11 AM
Quote from: Gamma Ridley on January 27, 2011, 01:18:44 AM
Hmmm... should I put labels saying what each move is?

It'll take longer, but it's a nice touch.
Yes.
Title: Re: O_O Did you see this Ganon?!!!! CLICK NAO!
Post by: Gamma Ridley on January 27, 2011, 01:27:07 AM
Video might be a bit delayed, as I have something going on right now.

I can most likely get it up by tonight.
Title: Re: O_O Did you see this Ganon?!!!! CLICK NAO!
Post by: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 01:29:42 AM
Quote from: Gamma Ridley on January 27, 2011, 01:27:07 AM
Video might be a bit delayed, as I have something going on right now.

I can most likely get it up by tonight.
K.
Title: Re: O_O Did you see this Ganon?!!!! CLICK NAO!
Post by: Anivernage on January 27, 2011, 02:36:26 AM
whats the bowser psa along ganon?
Title: Re: O_O Did you see this Ganon?!!!! CLICK NAO!
Post by: Fliptocat on January 27, 2011, 02:37:25 AM
^I'm guessing it's another PSA made by the same person. It's pretty good as well, but not as strong as the Ganon one. It has some really cool attacks, though. :D

EDIT: The U-Air has actual flight! :)
Title: Re: O_O Did you see this Ganon?!!!! CLICK NAO!
Post by: ShadowMarth on January 27, 2011, 03:05:32 AM
No one know what an overpowered PSA is until i release Ultimate Shadow Pikachu V2
Title: Re: O_O Did you see this Ganon?!!!! CLICK NAO!
Post by: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 03:09:38 AM
Quote from: ShadowMarth on January 27, 2011, 03:05:32 AM
No one know what an overpowered PSA is until i release Ultimate Shadow Pikachu V2
You're making him MOAR powerful?! D:
Title: Re: O_O Did you see this Ganon?!!!! CLICK NAO!
Post by: ShadowMarth on January 27, 2011, 03:12:10 AM
Quote from: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 03:09:38 AM
Quote from: ShadowMarth on January 27, 2011, 03:05:32 AM
No one know what an overpowered PSA is until i release Ultimate Shadow Pikachu V2
You're making him MOAR powerful?! D:
LOL yeah but im gonna make a balanced version to
Title: Re: O_O Did you see this Ganon?!!!! CLICK NAO!
Post by: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 03:13:28 AM
Quote from: ShadowMarth on January 27, 2011, 03:12:10 AM
Quote from: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 03:09:38 AM
Quote from: ShadowMarth on January 27, 2011, 03:05:32 AM
No one know what an overpowered PSA is until i release Ultimate Shadow Pikachu V2
You're making him MOAR powerful?! D:
LOL yeah but im gonna make a balanced version to
I wanted imbetween...
Title: Re: O_O Did you see this Ganon?!!!! CLICK NAO!
Post by: ShadowMarth on January 27, 2011, 03:25:50 AM
Quote from: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 03:13:28 AM
Quote from: ShadowMarth on January 27, 2011, 03:12:10 AM
Quote from: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 03:09:38 AM
Quote from: ShadowMarth on January 27, 2011, 03:05:32 AM
No one know what an overpowered PSA is until i release Ultimate Shadow Pikachu V2
You're making him MOAR powerful?! D:
LOL yeah but im gonna make a balanced version to
I wanted imbetween...
^^^^^^
Title: Re: O_O Did you see this Ganon?!!!! CLICK NAO!
Post by: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 03:33:13 AM
No, like I want him to be as powerful as SDo0m's Shadow(for example), not balanced, and not overkill.
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Post by: Gamma Ridley on January 27, 2011, 04:41:22 AM
Done. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z7p_MsgYiQ

Quality may be a bit off since it's still processing... but yeah.
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Post by: Velen on January 27, 2011, 05:00:05 AM
OH. MAH. GAWD. SAH!

BEAST~!
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Post by: ShadowMarth on January 27, 2011, 05:31:19 AM
HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!
im so gonna download this!
This might even give my Ultimate Shadow Pikachu a hard time.
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Post by: Anon23 on January 27, 2011, 03:08:52 PM
looks awesome, but a powered down version would be great. finally someone to rival mewtwo.
the problem with uber powerful characters, is that they make the battle short, and totally one way. I keep my hacked roster at the meta knight level, as I started applying hacks as a way to have fun while balancing the game
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Post by: Zeljius on January 27, 2011, 06:15:43 PM
-Sigh-

why can't somebody make a natural feeling ganon? :/

more balanced characters, less Broken characters Dx
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Post by: Puraidou on January 27, 2011, 06:23:54 PM
HOLY MOLY O.O"
*downloads* This is gonna get another video! :D

Quote from: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 12:21:02 AM
Or Red Demon Knight?(In BrawlVault)
Hey i see the name of my texture? XD
You like? :af:
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Post by: Zeljius on January 27, 2011, 06:38:42 PM
Quote from: PrideToBeMe on January 27, 2011, 06:23:54 PM
HOLY MOLY O.O"
*downloads* This is gonna get another video! :D

Quote from: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 12:21:02 AM
Or Red Demon Knight?(In BrawlVault)
Hey i see the name of my texture? XD
You like? :af:

if this was facebook. i would "Like" this :P
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Post by: Puraidou on January 27, 2011, 07:58:28 PM
PSA recorded, editing rendering the video in Sony Vegas now. I fought 3 Max Onslaught Falcon's with this. Enjoy the video in a bit :af:
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Post by: SiLeNtDo0m on January 27, 2011, 08:50:14 PM
Personally, I'm underwhelmed.  Now I'm not the biggest fan of OPed PSAs in general, but I have played as plenty and have enjoyed plenty of them (MAX Onslaught, Dark Emperor Ganon, DivineOverlord etc) but this didn't impress me at all.  

With PSAs like these there's that crazy sensation of being able to spam strings of moves like  a madman and pummel your foes with an unblockable flurry of attacks.  With this however, you don't get that sensation.  All you have to do is spam A and it's gg.

There were however a couple of moves that I did like.  Namely the Side B both on the ground and in the air but all in all I just felt it was lacking, especially because of the fact that there are already too many OPed Ganondorf PSAs out-there (honestly they're about as common as Cloud textures, not quite Shadow textures though).

But that's just me.  You guys clearly did enjoy it and I got nothing against you for enjoying it.  I'm merely expressing how I felt XD

Quote from: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 03:33:13 AM
No, like I want him to be as powerful as SDo0m's Shadow(for example), not balanced, and not overkill.

Wait, how is Shadow not balanced?  That's what I was aiming for :-\ For him to be a good high tier (but balanced) character that could work nicely in vBrawl or Brawl+

I'm not annoyed, I just wanna know since I spent a lot of time effort trying to balance him without making him underpowered.
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Post by: Zeljius on January 27, 2011, 08:54:09 PM
Quote from: SDo0m InFiNaTuM on January 27, 2011, 08:50:14 PM
Personally, I'm underwhelmed.  Now I'm not the biggest fan of OPed PSAs in general, but I have played as plenty and have enjoyed plenty of them (MAX Onslaught, Dark Emperor Ganon, DivineOverlord etc) but this didn't impress me at all. 

With PSAs like these there's that crazy sensation of being able to spam strings of moves like  a madman and pummel your foes with an unblockable flurry of attacks.  With this however, you don't get that sensation.  All you have to do is spam A and it's gg.

There were however a couple of moves that I did like.  Namely the Side B both on the ground and in the air but all in all I just felt it was lacking, especially because of the fact that there are already too many OPed Ganondorf PSAs out-there (honestly they're about as common as Cloud textures, not quite Shadow textures though).

But that's just me.  You guys clearly did enjoy it and I got nothing against you for enjoying it.  I'm merely expressing how I felt XD


Exactly My thoughts. I love fighting PSA's such as Demonic Bowser and Goddess Zelda :3
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Post by: Ct.OWN on January 27, 2011, 08:58:13 PM
Quote from: SDo0m InFiNaTuM on January 27, 2011, 08:50:14 PM
Personally, I'm underwhelmed.  Now I'm not the biggest fan of OPed PSAs in general, but I have played as plenty and have enjoyed plenty of them (MAX Onslaught, Dark Emperor Ganon, DivineOverlord etc) but this didn't impress me at all. 

With PSAs like these there's that crazy sensation of being able to spam strings of moves like  a madman and pummel your foes with an unblockable flurry of attacks.  With this however, you don't get that sensation.  All you have to do is spam A and it's gg.

There were however a couple of moves that I did like.  Namely the Side B both on the ground and in the air but all in all I just felt it was lacking, especially because of the fact that there are already too many OPed Ganondorf PSAs out-there (honestly they're about as common as Cloud textures, not quite Shadow textures though).

But that's just me.  You guys clearly did enjoy it and I got nothing against you for enjoying it.  I'm merely expressing how I felt XD

I felt a little like you at first too so I respect your opinion especially. That's why there's Ether Bowser. Heck, he's combo god and he can fly(not like Hollow's Sephiroth)! Just hold A when you use the Uair and move. It looks funny when he stays in place when someone uses a time slow/stop. You should definitely use him.
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Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on January 27, 2011, 10:11:53 PM
It was fun, it only for a short while. The only thing I was really impressed with was the Final Smash attack, which looks awesome. Everything else is kinda simplistic.
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Post by: Black Blood Shooter on January 27, 2011, 10:13:04 PM
Oh im am interigued :srs:
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Post by: KTH on January 27, 2011, 10:17:46 PM
OMG It's too powerful.
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Post by: _Data_Drain_ on January 27, 2011, 10:35:38 PM
I'm not really interested... Broken PSAs get boring quickly... But I do admit, this has some neat ideas. :)
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Post by: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 11:01:59 PM
Quote from: Gamma Ridley on January 27, 2011, 04:41:22 AM
Done. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z7p_MsgYiQ

Quality may be a bit off since it's still processing... but yeah.
Thank you.

Quote from: ShadowMarth on January 27, 2011, 05:31:19 AM
HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!
im so gonna download this!
This might even give my Ultimate Shadow Pikachu a hard time.
I told you guys in the first post! Nobody would listen unless they saw a vid. :P
Quote from: PrideToBeMe on January 27, 2011, 06:23:54 PM
HOLY MOLY O.O"
*downloads* This is gonna get another video! :D

Quote from: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 12:21:02 AM
Or Red Demon Knight?(In BrawlVault)
Hey i see the name of my texture? XD
You like? :af:
Yes, I like it.
Quote from: SDo0m InFiNaTuM on January 27, 2011, 08:50:14 PM
Personally, I'm underwhelmed.  Now I'm not the biggest fan of OPed PSAs in general, but I have played as plenty and have enjoyed plenty of them (MAX Onslaught, Dark Emperor Ganon, DivineOverlord etc) but this didn't impress me at all.  

With PSAs like these there's that crazy sensation of being able to spam strings of moves like  a madman and pummel your foes with an unblockable flurry of attacks.  With this however, you don't get that sensation.  All you have to do is spam A and it's gg.

There were however a couple of moves that I did like.  Namely the Side B both on the ground and in the air but all in all I just felt it was lacking, especially because of the fact that there are already too many OPed Ganondorf PSAs out-there (honestly they're about as common as Cloud textures, not quite Shadow textures though).

But that's just me.  You guys clearly did enjoy it and I got nothing against you for enjoying it.  I'm merely expressing how I felt XD

Quote from: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 03:33:13 AM
No, like I want him to be as powerful as SDo0m's Shadow(for example), not balanced, and not overkill.

Wait, how is Shadow not balanced?  That's what I was aiming for :-\ For him to be a good high tier (but balanced) character that could work nicely in vBrawl or Brawl+

I'm not annoyed, I just wanna know since I spent a lot of time effort trying to balance him without making him underpowered.

No, I'm talking about your Hyper Shadow.(OP one). XD
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Post by: Puraidou on January 27, 2011, 11:09:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV2kyTQ3Bl8
Told you there was gonna be another video :af:
1080P FTW :af2:
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Post by: SmashClash on January 27, 2011, 11:16:52 PM
^You don't like Master Ganon's FS? :oshi:
Also, lol you're cheap with stopping time.
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Post by: Ct.OWN on January 28, 2011, 12:23:27 AM
Which version are you using? Cause in that vid MG has is Sparta kick and his Beast Ganon ramming FS. :-\
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Post by: SmashClash on January 28, 2011, 12:28:39 AM
Quote from: Ct.OWN on January 28, 2011, 12:23:27 AM
Which version are you using? Cause in that vid MG has is Sparta kick and his Beast Ganon ramming FS. :-\
He might not be using the final version...
Pride, go get the final version for more fun! :af:
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Post by: Puraidou on January 28, 2011, 12:31:46 AM
Quote from: SmashClash on January 28, 2011, 12:28:39 AM
Quote from: Ct.OWN on January 28, 2011, 12:23:27 AM
Which version are you using? Cause in that vid MG has is Sparta kick and his Beast Ganon ramming FS. :-\
He might not be using the final version...
Pride, go get the final version for more fun! :af:
K, i'll do that later.

The V2Final right?
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Post by: Ct.OWN on January 28, 2011, 12:36:58 AM
Quote from: PrideToBeMe on January 28, 2011, 12:31:46 AM
Quote from: SmashClash on January 28, 2011, 12:28:39 AM
Quote from: Ct.OWN on January 28, 2011, 12:23:27 AM
Which version are you using? Cause in that vid MG has is Sparta kick and his Beast Ganon ramming FS. :-\
He might not be using the final version...
Pride, go get the final version for more fun! :af:
K, i'll do that later.

The V2Final right?
Just click Ver.Final2. That's the very final version. However, if you want to keep what you got, nobody's stopping you.
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Post by: Enigmatic on January 28, 2011, 01:52:57 AM
Quote from: SDo0m InFiNaTuM on January 27, 2011, 08:50:14 PM
Wait, how is Shadow not balanced?  That's what I was aiming for :-\ For him to be a good high tier (but balanced) character that could work nicely in vBrawl or Brawl+
He is overpowered, but significantly more balanced than most psas. The thing is he is fast, strong, and has few disadvantages. Nearly all of the original characters are either strong and slow, middle-ish, or fast and weak. I am speaking strictly for vBrawl though; he would fit in perfectly with Brawl+. There is no need to change him. He is still fun as hell to use and one of the best psa's on the site. I use vBrawl and it is permanent in my roster.



Back on topic, this Ganon isn't really impressing me. I'm not the biggest fan ops, but the point of them is to feel like a beast with combos, this doesnt have that. Also pretty much exactly what .Fade said.
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Post by: SmashClash on January 28, 2011, 02:16:37 AM
Quote from: EnigmaticSpirit on January 28, 2011, 01:52:57 AM
Quote from: SDo0m InFiNaTuM on January 27, 2011, 08:50:14 PM
Wait, how is Shadow not balanced?  That's what I was aiming for :-\ For him to be a good high tier (but balanced) character that could work nicely in vBrawl or Brawl+
He is overpowered, but significantly more balanced than most psas. The thing is he is fast, strong, and has few disadvantages. Nearly all of the original characters are either strong and slow, middle-ish, or fast and weak. I am speaking strictly for vBrawl though; he would fit in perfectly with Brawl+. There is no need to change him. He is still fun as hell to use and one of the best psa's on the site. I use vBrawl and it is permanent in my roster.

I agree with this part. >.>
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Post by: Black Blood Shooter on January 28, 2011, 03:53:10 AM
me too :srs:
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Post by: Ct.OWN on January 28, 2011, 08:24:57 PM
Quote from: EnigmaticSpirit on January 28, 2011, 01:52:57 AM
Quote from: SDo0m InFiNaTuM on January 27, 2011, 08:50:14 PM
Wait, how is Shadow not balanced?  That's what I was aiming for :-\ For him to be a good high tier (but balanced) character that could work nicely in vBrawl or Brawl+
He is overpowered, but significantly more balanced than most psas. The thing is he is fast, strong, and has few disadvantages. Nearly all of the original characters are either strong and slow, middle-ish, or fast and weak. I am speaking strictly for vBrawl though; he would fit in perfectly with Brawl+. There is no need to change him. He is still fun as hell to use and one of the best psa's on the site. I use vBrawl and it is permanent in my roster.



Back on topic, this Ganon isn't really impressing me. I'm not the biggest fan ops, but the point of them is to feel like a beast with combos, this doesnt have that. Also pretty much exactly what .Fade said.
Quote from: SmashClash on January 28, 2011, 02:16:37 AM
Quote from: EnigmaticSpirit on January 28, 2011, 01:52:57 AM
Quote from: SDo0m InFiNaTuM on January 27, 2011, 08:50:14 PM
Wait, how is Shadow not balanced?  That's what I was aiming for :-\ For him to be a good high tier (but balanced) character that could work nicely in vBrawl or Brawl+
He is overpowered, but significantly more balanced than most psas. The thing is he is fast, strong, and has few disadvantages. Nearly all of the original characters are either strong and slow, middle-ish, or fast and weak. I am speaking strictly for vBrawl though; he would fit in perfectly with Brawl+. There is no need to change him. He is still fun as hell to use and one of the best psa's on the site. I use vBrawl and it is permanent in my roster.

I agree with this part. >.>
Quote from: Toph Bei Fong on January 28, 2011, 03:53:10 AM
me too :srs:
I just learned from Nyspa that the Ver.Final2 is just a beta :srs:
Title: Re: O_O Did you see this Ganon?!!!! CLICK NAO!
Post by: SiLeNtDo0m on January 28, 2011, 08:29:06 PM
Quote from: EnigmaticSpirit on January 28, 2011, 01:52:57 AM
Quote from: SDo0m InFiNaTuM on January 27, 2011, 08:50:14 PM
Wait, how is Shadow not balanced?  That's what I was aiming for :-\ For him to be a good high tier (but balanced) character that could work nicely in vBrawl or Brawl+
He is overpowered, but significantly more balanced than most psas. The thing is he is fast, strong, and has few disadvantages. Nearly all of the original characters are either strong and slow, middle-ish, or fast and weak. I am speaking strictly for vBrawl though; he would fit in perfectly with Brawl+. There is no need to change him. He is still fun as hell to use and one of the best psa's on the site. I use vBrawl and it is permanent in my roster.



Back on topic, this Ganon isn't really impressing me. I'm not the biggest fan ops, but the point of them is to feel like a beast with combos, this doesnt have that. Also pretty much exactly what .Fade said.

Thanks for this.  He's got a pretty agressive playstyle indeed.  I still don't think he's MK level oped, but probably in the top 5 to 10 of the tier list definitely (if we're talking tourney standards but to be honest tourney players say any character is oped ¬_¬).

But again, thanks.  I'll try to make Cloud more balanced.
Title: Re: O_O Did you see this Ganon?!!!! CLICK NAO!
Post by: Hollow on January 29, 2011, 12:54:42 AM
Quote from: SmashClash on January 26, 2011, 11:34:40 PM
It's the best Ganon PSA I've ever played/seen. It's by Nyspa.
Master Ganon: http://space.geocities.jp/nyspafire1992/PSA/psa_space.html
Ahem.

http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=11598
Title: Re: O_O Did you see this Ganon?!!!! CLICK NAO!
Post by: SmashClash on January 29, 2011, 01:21:43 AM
Quote from: Hollow on January 29, 2011, 12:54:42 AM
Quote from: SmashClash on January 26, 2011, 11:34:40 PM
It's the best Ganon PSA I've ever played/seen. It's by Nyspa.
Master Ganon: http://space.geocities.jp/nyspafire1992/PSA/psa_space.html
Ahem.

http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=11598
I actually think this one's better(My opinion). It's just so cool(I think)
Title: Re: O_O Did you see this Ganon?!!!! CLICK NAO!
Post by: Ct.OWN on January 29, 2011, 01:32:55 AM
So nobody bothered to look at my previous post? Well then.
Quote from: Ct.OWN on January 28, 2011, 08:24:57 PMI just learned from Nyspa that the Ver.Final2 is just a beta :srs:
We'll probably expect something beyond imagination soon :notimp:
Title: Re: O_O Did you see this Ganon?!!!! CLICK NAO!
Post by: SmashClash on January 29, 2011, 02:14:22 AM
Quote from: Ct.OWN on January 29, 2011, 01:32:55 AM
So nobody bothered to look at my previous post? Well then.
Quote from: Ct.OWN on January 28, 2011, 08:24:57 PMI just learned from Nyspa that the Ver.Final2 is just a beta :srs:
We'll probably expect something beyond imagination soon :notimp:
Oh, yeah I read that. I just told my friends that while they were at my house playing Brawl. I forgot to reply saying: Cool, I can't wait.

You got that info from him, correct? He should post here more often.
Title: Re: O_O Did you see this Ganon?!!!! CLICK NAO!
Post by: Ct.OWN on January 29, 2011, 02:36:15 AM
Quote from: SmashClash on January 29, 2011, 02:14:22 AM
Quote from: Ct.OWN on January 29, 2011, 01:32:55 AM
So nobody bothered to look at my previous post? Well then.
Quote from: Ct.OWN on January 28, 2011, 08:24:57 PMI just learned from Nyspa that the Ver.Final2 is just a beta :srs:
We'll probably expect something beyond imagination soon :notimp:
Oh, yeah I read that. I just told my friends that while they were at my house playing Brawl. I forgot to reply saying: Cool, I can't wait.

You got that info from him, correct? He should post here more often.
We talked via PM.
Title: Re: O_O Did you see this Ganon?!!!! CLICK NAO!
Post by: Gamma Ridley on January 29, 2011, 03:37:13 AM
Wow, I'm out sick one day, and already such a large reaction....

Anyway, here's my opinion on the PSA (in case anyone cares):

-It's super broken :|
-It's fun to play with, but it's hard to stop oneself from spamming the same move and end the match in two seconds
-It's not nearly as fluid as MAX Onslaught, so it's less comfortable to mess around with.
-You can't string together as many moves as MAX Onslaught can. Not that it's necessary, since all his moves pretty much kill in one hit. But I always found it entertaining to see what moves I can string together to get an interesting KO out of it.
-The Final Smash graphics are simly epic. The end.
-The sword mode had little changes to it's moveset, but the Up Tilt is badass beyond belief
-Sometimes he stays invisible after you stop running, which isn't major, but kinda annoying.

Overall, it was a pretty enjoyable experience. :) Though, to be honest, I'd prefer a balanced PSA to an overpowered one any day.

Quote from: PrideToBeMe on January 27, 2011, 11:09:06 PM
Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.

Told you there was gonna be another video :af:
1080P FTW :af2:

Nice movie, Pride. Your cursor looks beautiful in 1080p. :af:

I love your Red Demon Knight Ganon, by the way. Just thought I'd mention that. :P
Title: Re: O_O Did you see this Ganon?!!!! CLICK NAO!
Post by: Hollow on January 29, 2011, 03:44:11 AM
It's waaaaaaay too overpowered. I like a lot of the moves, though, they have original ideas. I might take some for a ganon sometime.
Title: Re: O_O Did you see this Ganon?!!!! CLICK NAO!
Post by: DivineOverlord on January 29, 2011, 09:10:56 PM
O_o I gotta test this one!! I haven't noticed this post till today lol.