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Title: PSA Tourney Character Listings! (Stage Poll #3 inside)
Post by: Lightning Edge on July 26, 2011, 03:09:24 PM
Well that's it for the characters guys. Thanks for voting! I'll try to have the tournament all set up in a week or 2. Sign-ups will be ready Monday. Pikachu and Zelda had a tie, so i'll settle this before the tourney starts.

I'll change a few stages. I'll hold a couple of polls for the stages with my favorite hacks for that stage.

PSA Voting Winners:
Mario: SMBZ Mario
Luigi: Raccoon Luigi
Peach: Athena Peach
Link: Elderian Zero
Bowser: King Bowser
Yoshi: Drako Yoshi
Kirby: Fighter Kirby
Toon Link: Cosmic Geno
Ike: Dissidia Cloud
Lucario: Mewtwo (Melee version)
Ness: Mega Man (Eternal Yoshi's)
Lucas: Time Mage Vivi
Marth: Sephiroth
Sonic: Shadow the Hedgehog
Sheik: Spider-Man
Falco: Scyther (balanced version)
Captain Falcon: Viewtiful Joe
Pikachu: Dark Pikachu
Zelda: Echo Blade Zelda

Default PSAs:
Dark Samus V2
Aura Meta Knight
King Kong (Donkey Kong)
Jet Diddy
Wario Land Wario
Storm Fox
Wisp (Jigglypuff)
Charizard: Ridley
Ice Climbers (Brawl Minus version)
Squirtle: Bowser. Jr
Ivysaur: Nidoran
Pit: Sora
Snake: Brawl Plus version
King Dedede: Brawl Plus version
Mr. Game and Watch: Brawl Plus version
Olimar: Brawl Plus version
Ganondorf: Brawl Plus version
Wolf: Brawl Plus version
R.O.B.: Brawl Plus version
Zero Suit Samus: Motoko Kusanagi

Stages:

Final Destination: Astral Destination
Battlefield: Fountain of Dreams
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Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 3: Peach
Post by: SiLeNtDo0m on July 26, 2011, 03:15:30 PM
Athena definitely.  Daisy's pretty good, but Athena's just an excellent PSA all round.  Too bad everyone's probably gonna vote for Rosalina ¬_¬


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 3: Peach
Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on July 26, 2011, 03:17:37 PM
2x of my PSAs :D
and raccon Luigi was just one i made fast
voted on daisy


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 3: Peach
Post by: Gamma Ridley on July 26, 2011, 03:18:02 PM
Athena definitely.  Daisy's pretty good, but Athena's just an excellent PSA all round.  Too bad everyone's probably gonna vote for Rosalina ¬_¬

I agree with you, actually.

drseusredfish is a PSA genius.


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 3: Peach
Post by: Lightning Edge on July 26, 2011, 03:26:15 PM
wow! fast replies!  I like Rosalina and Athena, but i went with Rosalina.


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 3: Peach
Post by: vm19961126 on July 26, 2011, 03:34:51 PM
I say daisy, i dunno but since I played mario football games, I think she's pretty badas :P well in mario strikers, don't know the moveset of this daisy hack though >.<


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 3: Peach
Post by: ForOhFor Error on July 26, 2011, 03:37:06 PM
Athena, no doubt about it.
It's an excellent PSA.


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 3: Peach
Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on July 27, 2011, 01:53:57 AM
before you go on to next char. why not just edit this post instead make a post of each char.?
this is going to be Spamming


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 3: Peach
Post by: vm19961126 on July 27, 2011, 02:07:12 AM
before you go on to next char. why not just edit this post instead make a post of each char.? this is going to be Spamming
I agree, you could just make another poll in this very same topic :P, otherwise there are more then 30 topics about this


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 3: Peach
Post by: Eternal Yoshi on July 27, 2011, 02:27:53 AM
What the above 2 said.

Athena all the way.

You can edit the Poll and reset the vote counts when the poll closes or when you do itso..... yeah.


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 3: Peach
Post by: Triforce Zelda (Deceased) on July 27, 2011, 04:53:53 AM
I say Athena Peach.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not dissing myself, but it's just that bob-omb problem and my failure to replace it with a weaker bomb, but I never thought of it to be an issue because I usually end-up blowing myself up in the process of trying to blow-up someone else, thus I use it as desperation...wait, that gave me an idea...


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 3: Peach
Post by: Puraidou on July 27, 2011, 05:21:58 AM
Athena for sure, it's really well done and a brilliant moveset.


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 3: Peach
Post by: Lightning Edge on July 27, 2011, 01:37:08 PM
Alright. I'll do that you guys. thanks for the heads up. I'm editing the next character in ;)

*edit* Link's poll is up.


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 4: Link
Post by: Allbait on July 27, 2011, 03:30:57 PM
Can you put my Fixed Link 2.9 up there? Its a pretty well balanced character that got almost no attention <_<;


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 4: Link
Post by: vm19961126 on July 27, 2011, 03:34:04 PM
Uhm, maybe Zero? I dunno, is he balanced? xd, i'm pretty bad at telling if something is balanced or not lol


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 4: Link
Post by: Lightning Edge on July 27, 2011, 03:37:49 PM
lol! i already have him up there. He's pretty balanced. He can move very fast across the field with his dash. It's also hard to keep him off of the field. But his damage output and knockback is pretty bad except for a few moves.


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 4: Link
Post by: Lightning Edge on July 27, 2011, 03:39:01 PM
Can you put my Fixed Link 2.9 up there? Its a pretty well balanced character that got almost no attention <_<;

Sure :)


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 4: Link
Post by: Gamma Ridley on July 27, 2011, 03:39:47 PM
Eldiran's Zero is actually widely considered to be the most balanced PSA in existance.

So my vote goes for that.


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 4: Link
Post by: vm19961126 on July 27, 2011, 03:51:10 PM
lol! i already have him up there. He's pretty balanced. He can move very fast across the field with his dash. It's also hard to keep him off of the field. But his damage output and knockback is pretty bad except for a few moves.

haha great, *voted* =d haha


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 4: Link
Post by: Eternal Yoshi on July 28, 2011, 12:12:39 AM
Eldiran's Zero is actually widely considered to be the most balanced PSA in existance.



I don't think it is, though it is. He's more like a master of none.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MasterOfNone
Slightly better than Link, but still totally ineffectual against the likes of Falco, Wario, D3, and Olimar.

Laconically, that Zero is low tier material barely above Link.


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 4: Link
Post by: Lightning Edge on July 28, 2011, 12:20:59 AM
I would consider him Mid tier myself.

He's like Lucario at low percentage. Almost no knowback, but can rack up damage really fast and has just enough knockback to kill at higher percentages.

You can forget about keeping him off of the stage. He's great at keeping opponents off of the stage, due to his great mobility with Up-B and Side-B. I wouldn't put him in high tier, but totally not low. But that's just me of course :P


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 4: Link
Post by: Eternal Yoshi on July 28, 2011, 12:29:57 AM
He's like a WWII Medium Tank to me.
WWII Medium Tanks are designed to be simple and cheap to build, while capable of being effective in any tactical environment.

The end result?
Less speed than scout tanks, less armor than heavies, less AT power than destroyers, less AP/demolition power than assault guns.


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 4: Link
Post by: Lightning Edge on July 28, 2011, 12:37:07 AM
Hmm....well everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

You just gave me an idea. We should have a tier discussion, only for the PSAs that will be in the tourney, after it's over of course. But it'll be just for fun discussion.


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 6: Yoshi
Post by: Lightning Edge on July 29, 2011, 01:20:09 PM
Yoshi's poll is up!


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 6: Yoshi
Post by: The Main Event on July 29, 2011, 01:32:24 PM

Drako Yoshi.


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 6: Yoshi
Post by: Lightning Edge on July 29, 2011, 01:33:41 PM
 Drako Yoshi.

Right on bro! it's just too awesome!


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 6: Yoshi
Post by: SiLeNtDo0m on July 29, 2011, 03:50:13 PM
I wouldn't put my Drako Yoshi in.  He's rather OPed.  The main problem is the fact that you can air dodge cancel the Up B, but he doesn't go helpless so you can use it again.  Hardly fair XD


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 6: Yoshi
Post by: The Main Event on July 29, 2011, 03:55:32 PM
I wouldn't put my Drako Yoshi in.  He's rather OPed.  The main problem is the fact that you can air dodge cancel the Up B, but he doesn't go helpless so you can use it again.  Hardly fair XD
Heh, True. But the thing is, I havent seen any other DECENTLY BALANCED Yoshi hacks on this site.


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 6: Yoshi
Post by: Lightning Edge on July 29, 2011, 04:20:37 PM
I wouldn't put my Drako Yoshi in.  He's rather OPed.  The main problem is the fact that you can air dodge cancel the Up B, but he doesn't go helpless so you can use it again.  Hardly fair XD

Hmm....maybe someone else would consider that broken, but that seems quite fair to me. I mean, it's not like that the Up-B could actually save him from flying off of the screen XD

I couldn't really find anymore balanced Yoshi PSAs though. Drako Yoshi is the most balanced one i've seen. Period ;)


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 6: Yoshi
Post by: SiLeNtDo0m on July 29, 2011, 04:21:55 PM
If that's the case, I'll probably at least fix that one glitch.  I don't need to fix the FS glitch if there won't be any Smash Balls ^^


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 6: Yoshi
Post by: Lightning Edge on July 29, 2011, 04:32:06 PM
Sounds good to me!


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 7: Kirby
Post by: Lightning Edge on July 30, 2011, 11:39:11 AM
Kirby's poll is up! (been waiting for this one)


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 7: Kirby
Post by: The Main Event on July 30, 2011, 11:40:17 AM
Fighter Kirby I feel pro when using him


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 7: Kirby
Post by: Lightning Edge on July 30, 2011, 11:42:58 AM
Fighter Kirby I feel pro when using him

Exactly! He's always been one of my favorite characters, and now he has a shot at being one of the most dangerous fighters ever. His combos are deadly!


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 7: Kirby
Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on July 30, 2011, 11:56:02 AM
i also like fighter kirby :D i think we have a winner 7 votes already


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 7: Kirby
Post by: Lightning Edge on July 30, 2011, 11:59:04 AM
7 votes eh? nice! Fighter Kirby would be perfect if it came with a Fighter Kirby Headband >_<


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 8: Toon Link
Post by: Lightning Edge on July 31, 2011, 07:51:39 AM
Toon Link's poll is up!


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 8: Toon Link
Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on July 31, 2011, 07:53:15 AM
you mean Geno is up :D

damn if just my version of Geno was done that one will be way better then these two and more SMRPG moves


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 8: Toon Link
Post by: Lightning Edge on July 31, 2011, 07:57:07 AM
you mean Geno is up :D damn if just my version of Geno was done that one will be way better then these two and more SMRPG moves

You're working on a Geno? Nice! can't wait to try it out. Geno is my favorite character from SMRPG! I wish it was finished so i could put it in the poll.

but if this tourney is a success, i'll be holding more. We can put him in the next.


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 8: Toon Link
Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on July 31, 2011, 08:00:09 AM
You're working on a Geno? Nice! can't wait to try it out. Geno is my favorite character from SMRPG! I wish it was finished so i could put it in the poll. but if this tourney is a success, i'll be holding more. We can put him in the next.
i am not even 10% close to first Beta of my version of Geno


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 9: Ike
Post by: Lightning Edge on August 01, 2011, 12:21:59 PM
Ike's poll is up!!!

read the original post please for a few updates.


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 9: Ike
Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on August 01, 2011, 12:23:02 PM
where is Con naruto PSA?


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 9: Ike
Post by: Lightning Edge on August 01, 2011, 12:27:14 PM
It's not as balanced as i had hoped for. He has really high knock back with almost all of his moves. but i'll put it up there anyway.


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 9: Ike
Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on August 01, 2011, 12:29:48 PM
It's not as balanced as i had hoped for. He has really high knock back with almost all of his moves. but i'll put it up there anyway.
its is really balanced maybe you is just too good to the PSA :D


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 9: Ike
Post by: Lightning Edge on August 01, 2011, 12:34:36 PM
Lol! he was pretty fun to play with. His Neutral B move is just awesome ;)


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 9: Ike
Post by: The Main Event on August 01, 2011, 12:35:00 PM
Hes right. Some moves have serious knockback.
And all the time i could never choose between FFVII Cloud and Dissidia. But I voted for FFVII.


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 9: Ike
Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on August 01, 2011, 12:36:54 PM
Lol! he was pretty fun to play with. His Neutral B move is just awesome ;)
too bad N-B dont got shadowClone like as in the Anime he needing shadowclone to do  rasengan

but they that PSA is my fav. over Ike
Hes right. Some moves have serious knockback. And all the time i could never choose between FFVII Cloud and Dissidia. But I voted for FFVII.
yeah but these attack is really slow


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 9: Ike
Post by: The Main Event on August 01, 2011, 12:39:22 PM

Not necessarily. I've played with my friends before and every time I would get KO'ed extremely easily. Even the person who was playing with him, and I quote "I like him, but I feel hes a little too strong."


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 10: Lucario
Post by: Lightning Edge on August 02, 2011, 10:00:07 AM
Lucario's poll is up!!!


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 10: Lucario
Post by: Triforce Zelda (Deceased) on August 02, 2011, 10:03:48 AM
Meh, I don't know about the first or third, so I'm not sure how they go in terms of balance.


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 10: Lucario
Post by: Lightning Edge on August 02, 2011, 10:18:25 AM
As far as i know, they have 2 versions of Zoroark. I have the balanced version. that's why i put (balanced) right in front of it.

Xandir is just a damager. He doesn't have a lot of knockback moves.


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 10: Lucario
Post by: Triforce Zelda (Deceased) on August 03, 2011, 05:18:14 AM
Hmm, a damager, like my Inferno Falco, what about Zoroark - is he offensive, defensive, combination, confusion, what?


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 10: Lucario
Post by: Lightning Edge on August 03, 2011, 12:48:19 PM
Hmm, a damager, like my Inferno Falco, what about Zoroark - is he offensive, defensive, combination, confusion, what?

Nah, a damager as in he doesn't have a lot of knock back moves, but he can put out a lot of damage. Sorta like Dark Samus.  Zoroark however is basicly a slightly faster but weaker Wolf (unless you get Claw Sharpen and Nasty plot boosts with his taunts)


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 12: Lucas
Post by: Lightning Edge on August 04, 2011, 11:18:10 AM
Lucas's poll is up! :)


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 12: Lucas
Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on August 04, 2011, 11:53:40 AM
damn not done with Gotenks PSA (over Lucas :D)


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 12: Lucas
Post by: Lightning Edge on August 04, 2011, 11:57:32 AM
Gotenks!? Yes!!!! Gotenks is my favorite DBZ character ever!

good luck! hope he turns out awesome!


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 12: Lucas
Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on August 04, 2011, 12:00:09 PM
ofc he will be made for afew reasons:
1. he is awesome
2. psa over him is just perfect if over lucas+vertex too (that one coming)+ lucas dont got many good PSAs or anything
3. one of the best PSAers(as what i have heard) fav. char. is him (myself i am talking about)


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 13: Marth
Post by: Lightning Edge on August 05, 2011, 11:40:32 AM
Marth's poll is up!!!


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 13: Marth
Post by: vm19961126 on August 05, 2011, 11:50:24 AM
Voted for roy as I don't know much about final fantasy and stuff :P


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 13: Marth
Post by: SiLeNtDo0m on August 06, 2011, 08:16:16 AM
Sephiroth.  No contest for me.


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 14: Sonic
Post by: Lightning Edge on August 06, 2011, 01:26:17 PM
@SDoom. Exactly. Sephiroth is too awesome.

Sonic's poll is up everyone! ;)


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 14: Sonic
Post by: ForOhFor Error on August 06, 2011, 06:55:36 PM
Are those not both SDoom's?


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 14: Sonic
Post by: The Main Event on August 06, 2011, 11:01:09 PM
Are those not both SDoom's?
Yeah but there are 2 Shadow movesets.


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 14: Sonic
Post by: SiLeNtDo0m on August 07, 2011, 09:32:21 AM
Yeah but there are 2 Shadow movesets.

He was talking about Burst Sonic and Shadow both being mine.

I say Shadow.  Screw Burst Sonic :srs:


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 14: Sonic
Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on August 07, 2011, 09:43:34 AM
i say Burst sonic and Shadow over DK.
so you got both  :af2:


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 14: Sonic
Post by: SiLeNtDo0m on August 07, 2011, 09:45:10 AM
i say Burst sonic and Shadow over DK.
so you got both  :af2:

There are no ports :srs:  Look at the OP.  DK will already have a PSA over him by default.  No voting for him


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 18: Pikachu
Post by: Lightning Edge on August 10, 2011, 11:47:20 AM
Pikachu's poll is up!

I'm running out of balanced PSAs. Zelda is the only one left.



Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 18: Pikachu
Post by: SiLeNtDo0m on August 10, 2011, 01:37:21 PM
Could you also put this Pichu PSA up?

http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=2904


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 18: Pikachu
Post by: DarkPikachu on August 10, 2011, 02:01:49 PM
*looks at the poll*
a poser!?

DP would like a battle for the true DP (http://lh3.ggpht.com/-eLP1ek4Dqr4/TLPBE_swhEI/AAAAAAAAB8I/8tmsBrFIrvM/avatar174258_1.png)


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 18: Pikachu
Post by: Eternal Yoshi on August 10, 2011, 02:13:57 PM
Could you also put this Pichu PSA up?

[url]http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=2904[/url]


Hey was that PSA made before the model scale attribute was discovered? Cause that code in the description is obsolete.


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 18: Pikachu
Post by: Lightning Edge on August 10, 2011, 02:46:17 PM
Could you also put this Pichu PSA up? [url]http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=2904[/url]


Sure! no problem!


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Voting 18: Pikachu
Post by: SiLeNtDo0m on August 11, 2011, 01:54:59 AM
Hey was that PSA made before the model scale attribute was discovered? Cause that code in the description is obsolete.

Most likely, since it's a very old PSA.


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Listings! (Bonus Poll inside)
Post by: Lightning Edge on August 12, 2011, 11:55:03 AM
Thanks for voting people

I got the permission to use most of these.

Triforce Zelda felt that Vivi was incomplete, so i'm testing a replacement right now.


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Listings! (Stage Poll #2 inside)
Post by: Lightning Edge on August 13, 2011, 11:14:15 PM
New stage poll up.


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Listings! (Stage Poll #2 inside)
Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on August 14, 2011, 01:50:26 AM
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=4906 you needing to add?


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Listings! (Stage Poll #2 inside)
Post by: SiLeNtDo0m on August 14, 2011, 03:01:47 AM
Personally, I wouldn't replace Battlefield.  For stage replacements I'd only replace the crappy ones like Hanenbow, Mario Bros, Summit, Mushroomy Kingdom, Rumble Falls etc


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Listings! (Stage Poll #2 inside)
Post by: Eternal Yoshi on August 14, 2011, 03:45:34 AM
Yes but for the sake of representation, Shadow Moses Island, and GHZ need to stay in some form.



Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Listings! (Stage Poll #2 inside)
Post by: Lightning Edge on August 14, 2011, 01:34:31 PM
Oh so i should just replace the annoying ones eh? I was thinking about changing GHZ to Hidden Palace Zone or Perfect Chaos. How does that sound? it still represents Sonic.

Also, Battlefield and Final Destination are sort of still there. Just texture changes.


Title: Re: PSA Tourney Character Listings! (Stage Poll #3 inside)
Post by: Lightning Edge on August 15, 2011, 12:21:57 PM
Tournament sign-ups are over at the Online Gaming boards!