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Hi there, some days ago, I downloaded the last version of Brawlbox, so i made an import.  It's closely finished, so I wanna share the Wip here:
(http://imageshack.us/a/img528/7929/serge.png)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img266/4073/sergessbb.png)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img407/4969/sergefull.png)
(http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/122/sergerender1.png)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img22/2922/sergeofficial.png) (http://2playerwins.deviantart.com/art/SSBB-Serge-Chrono-Cross-Model-Import-355682609)

*TODO List
 -  Model, texture and rig 90%
 -  Add details to texture 100%

 -  Add Eyes Movement 100%

 -  Add Metal Texture 100% (Thanks Mewtwo2000 for the tip)

 -  Add Transparency 100%
 -  Create some CSPs 100%

 -  Model a Swallow instead the Sword (100%)

 -  Edit his face 100%

 - Final Version:



Download Here: http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=31129 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=31129)

Welcome to the forums! And nice model you have.

Looks good, though I think you should tone down the muscles some. I don't remember Serge being so buff.

And his face needs more editing to look less like Marth.

Can't wait to see him done.

Thanks to both. I know, jaja, he's a bit builted but i remember that his PS1 battle model has a strong calf muscle :D
Oww if I edit the face, then I must edit the other 4 x_X. I'll add it to the TODO List.

hi welcome
your import seems really amazing awesome work
good continuation :)

Hey, I like it. I was hoping someone would do this. If you finish the Swallow, then it's yet another model I'll try to PSA when I get off school... unless someone more talented claims it first.

Awesome :D

One of my favorite characters from Chrono Cross !

Hi! I made some improvement to the model. Now, he has a completely new face ^^
The face were edited to look less like Marth and more like Serge. What do you think?
All: (http://imageshack.us/a/img198/3972/facesetf.png)
Front: (http://imageshack.us/a/img195/6937/faceset2.png)
Side: (http://imageshack.us/a/img11/1413/faceset3.png)
Original: (http://imageshack.us/a/img10/1384/front2qw.jpg)(http://imageshack.us/a/img805/9799/eyesv.jpg)

looks spot on!! wow i'm psyched for this import! :D I'll be having many Chrono vs Serge matches thanks to you!!

Quote from: Granfalloon on January 21, 2013, 12:39:27 AM
looks spot on!! wow i'm psyched for this import! :D I'll be having many Chrono vs Serge matches thanks to you!!

Thanks! He's almost done. I modeled a new sword for him, based on ThoRCX's desing:
< http://browse.deviantart.com/?q=thug+sword#/d3f8xle (http://browse.deviantart.com/?q=thug+sword#/d3f8xle) >
I ask him permission to release. When I have it, I will release him.

Mine:
(http://imageshack.us/a/img203/4922/thugswordr.png)

Please, any tip to make a cool CSP? :P

Use whatever 3D program gives you decent lighting and take a screen cap.

Most of us use BrawlBox, then edit the image a bit in photoshop to get something that looks nice.

Hey, thanks! So, there isn't a magical form, like load the animations in 3dsmax... Well! The Csp is now done!.
(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9954/sergecsp2.png)
Full:

You have done an amazing job with this model.  It's incredible.  That swords pretty cool looking.  Do you still intend to make a swallow weapon?  That csp holding the Mastermune or another swallow would be amazing.  It's about time someone with skill made a Chrono Cross model.  No one ever makes them.  What are the chances you'd make a Kid model when you're all done with this one?  I think I'd actually pay you to make it just to be able to get the Radical Dreamers into Brawl.  

If Serge gets a swallow, I'll still be up for PSA'ing it. I have learned much and am eager to have an honest-to-goodness video game character that needs the TLC.
...Maybe I could get an animator to help me. Sergei uses both ends of the swallow, just like he should.

The author of the sword doesn't answer me, so I'll start a new swallow. When I finished it, I will release the 3 versions. But before, anyone know if there's a chance to load the original animations in 3dsmax??

(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111021221559/chrono/images/d/dc/Mastermune.png)



(http://pbrmg.photobucket.com/albums/v603/DarkKnightSparda/Jmbv.jpg)


The Mastermune is the greatest weapon ever made hands down.  Don't know if it's got too much detail to import into brawl or something though.

Azure_Shadow, if you're still planning on PSA'ing Serge, its cool that he's over Ike.  I think Ike's forward B move would work pretty well as Serge's Dash&Slash tech.  It'd work even better if he ended up behind the enemy after going "through" them.  Just started looking into all the Brawl hacking stuff though so I'm not entirely sure on the limitations of PSA's and animating through Brawl Box etc.

(http://lparchive.org/Chrono-Cross/Update%2015/9-shadow17.jpg)

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And this may answer slayersnext's question about 3dsmax if I understood it correctly.  Not sure.

http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74045 (http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74045)

Quote from: slayersnext on February 05, 2013, 01:57:08 PM
anyone know if there's a chance to load the original animations in 3dsmax??

I don't think so. If you somehow managed to do it though, that would make his PSA a bit easier. I'd still need to ask some animators for help with his other moves though- even if he uses a lot of elements in Chrono Cross, elemental PSAs are generally looked down on here and I think most of his attacks should be physical. I'd probably use Lumiere as his final smash and have just 1-3 other elemental attacks, depending.

Quote from: SergeHimself on February 10, 2013, 04:41:34 AM
[img width=695 height=616]Azure_Shadow, if you're still planning on PSA'ing Serge, its cool that he's over Ike.  I think Ike's forward B move would work pretty well as Serge's Dash&Slash tech.  It'd work even better if he ended up behind the enemy after going "through" them.  Just started looking into all the Brawl hacking stuff though so I'm not entirely sure on the limitations of PSA's and animating through Brawl Box etc.

Ike's >B code wouldn't be a good way to go for that, although the attack itself would be fairly easy to PSA from scratch. But I'm not committing to making a full PSA until this is released and I get an animator's help.

QuoteI don't think so. If you somehow managed to do it though, that would make his PSA a bit easier. I'd still need to ask some animators for help with his other moves though- even if he uses a lot of elements in Chrono Cross, elemental PSAs are generally looked down on here and I think most of his attacks should be physical. I'd probably use Lumiere as his final smash and have just 1-3 other elemental attacks, depending.

Owww that's a pity ^_^'
Anyway, here's the swallow. Its a bit low poly... but I think that it'd look OK in the game:
(http://imageshack.us/a/img685/5936/mastermune.png)

I'll put all together and make the versions ;D

EDIT: Nah, forget aboout the low poly!
(http://imageshack.us/a/img267/3182/29681213.png)

:V he's looking incredible wowowow!!! can't wait for thisss

Thanks and... well, after an afternoon filled by 'beeps of death' I managed to make the version with the Highpoly Mastermune. Some problems comes with the size of the textures and the reflective shader added to the edges xD
Here some screens and at night the release:

* Sword Version:
(http://imageshack.us/a/img221/3093/sworda.png)

*Thug Sword Version:
(http://imageshack.us/a/img69/1144/thugae.png)

* MasterMune Version:
(http://imageshack.us/a/img35/5936/mastermune.png)

:D

 :o

You are the man!!!!  This all looks amazing.  When I first saw the low-poly Mastermune, I thought "Holy crap! That looks just like the cc ingame model in battles.  That's awesome."  But that high-poly Mastermune blows EVERYTHING away.  That is amazing.  You seriously took it to another level with that.  This is the best brawl model I have ever seen.  Hands down.  Amazing job.

QuoteYou are the man!!!!  This all looks amazing.  When I first saw the low-poly Mastermune, I thought "Holy crap! That looks just like the cc ingame model in battles.  That's awesome."  But that high-poly Mastermune blows EVERYTHING away.  That is amazing.  You seriously took it to another level with that.  This is the best brawl model I have ever seen.  Hands down.  Amazing job.

Jajaja, thanks, SergeHimself :P

Released!!
You can find the link in 1st page!

I [censored]ing love you. :srs:

You should re-rig him into other characters as well, like Pit/Ike!

I've been watching this thread for awhile. I may not know much about Chrono Cross, but that is best custom model of Serge I have ever seen. Great job and I hope to see more from you. ;D

Uh, is there a reason why his eyes aren't blue?

I like the eyes like that and also
I done a recolor of his clothes
Sorry if it doesn't do nothing for ya but i added you on credit and collab
Have a look if you like. I will also be glad to delete it if you want
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?ByUserID=8730&Moderated=0 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?ByUserID=8730&Moderated=0)

I am blown away by how awesome this model turned out.  You deserve a serious pat on the back slayersnext.

Quote from: Ricky (Br3) on February 22, 2013, 12:25:04 AMI [censored]ing love you. :srs: You should re-rig him into other characters as well, like Pit/Ike!

Re-rigging into Ike would be awesome as I love using his moveset, but if someone PSA's this awesome model, it won't matter.

Quote from: Ricky (Br3) on February 22, 2013, 02:22:38 AMUh, is there a reason why his eyes aren't blue?

Actually, if you compare Serge's game-art, art from the various official books released for the game and so on, this is the correct color of his eyes.  They are only blue for ingame battles and cutscenes.  It's kind of funny.  If you look at his battle model in-game, there isn't any yellow on his bandana, he's never wearing his necklace and the mastermune doesn't have the loop in the center of it to hold onto.  So really, blue or the magenta-ish color.  Either one is right.

Quote from: Chaos_Knight on February 22, 2013, 12:57:33 AMI've been watching this thread for awhile. I may not know much about Chrono Cross, but that is best custom model of Serge I have ever seen. Great job and I hope to see more from you. ;D

I second this, 1000 percent.  Slayersnext, this model went so well, that I'd go as far as to possibly beg you to make a Kid model.  Permitting you got the time of course.  The one Kid model that's out there isn't that great.  It's definitely not on the level of THIS model of Serge.  If you made a Kid model this great, I could get the Radical Dreamers back together with Serge, Kid and Magil (Magus).    :af2:

Ooh, nice!
Okay, time for me to go plague some animators! I'll start sending the PMs in a day or two...

really awesome work :)

@azureshadow i am sure your psa will be incredible :)

Thanks for that. It makes me feel so happy!!
I'm gonna do a few more then.

Now, abut the eyes. It's based on the artwork, where he has them purple (even when he talks in the game). At first they were blue, but then, the face only have 2 colors. Purple gives more... color to the model.

About make something for Ike,  I have some ideas for him:
:af: (http://youtu.be/UrDV6VksSRU)

The recolors are fine. No problem about that. Thanks! The PSA, It would be cool.  I'll be watching for it!

In my deviantart page (2playerwins), you can see more models from Chrono Cross... They're a bit low poly because they're designed for Dissidia, but, well, you can have and idea.

Quote from: slayersnext on February 22, 2013, 02:11:02 PM
Thanks for that. It makes me feel so happy!!
I'm gonna do a few more then.
About make something for Ike,  I have some ideas for him:
:af: (http://youtu.be/UrDV6VksSRU)

In my deviantart page (2playerwins), you can see more models from Chrono Cross... They're a bit low poly because they're designed for Dissidia, but, well, you can have and idea.

Lol, I'm guessing from that Wild Arms video that you're planning on a Rudy Roughnight model over Ike.  That's a pretty good fit.  They look pretty similar.  Another good fit over Ike might be Glenn from Chrono Cross with the Einlanzer.  I'm not exactly sure which character Kid would be a good fit for.  I think the only one that anyone has made for Kid is over zero-suit Samus and she's rocking two guns instead of daggers.  Kid might be a tough one to PSA since she uses kicks and both of her daggers, but she'd be amazing in brawl.

Sorry; not interested in doing a PSA for Kid. I'm interested in Chrono because I hope it will have a different playstyle than other Brawl characters to date, because he can use both ends of the Mastermune.
But if you ask me, I think Kid would fit well over Pit. Lots of his attacks use the split bow (which looks like a pair of daggers) and you might be able to change the arrow to look like a fire elemental.

Yeah, Serge is an interesting PSA seeing as he uses both ends of the swallow.  I can count the number of characters I've seen in games use a weapon like a swallow on one hand.  There aren't very many which definitely makes him unique.  Kid might be just as hard to PSA from scratch to use both kicks and her double daggers.  Kid over Pit might work.  It'd prolly be a good idea to do Kid over Zero-Suit Samus and then heavily reanimate and PSA her too seeing as she has a penchant for booting people in the face too. 

Hi again. Long time since my last (and unique) import, but I wanna share some renders of my new character. Hope you guess who's her (Remember she's only a really early WIP):

(http://i.imgur.com/vnn4Jdi.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/xmlOlGH.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/yMhz3fW.gif)

I change some bone position to make her braid more realistic, but I need some info abut bone replacement. I know that's possible, but, it's possible make it only in one slot of a character? (Zelda in this case). Hope someone give me some answer and hope you enjoy with the screens :D

Can we have a version with normal bones as well?

Quote from: Usuisan on June 22, 2014, 11:10:26 PM
Can we have a version with normal bones as well?

Yes, I guess, but maybe her braid looks strange and shorter, but first of all I need to know how change them :D

I'd love to see a Crisis Core variant of her, too.