I just got an idea of how to do the impossible (in my sleep).
I just had to put everything else aside to see if it worked and IT DID!
Tails joins the Brawl! And he comes with a wrench!
(http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac258/Mr_Winz/fc08925b4dacce7c.jpg)
"Now, who said I was impossible?"
(http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac258/Mr_Winz/ca2b9c9b0e023bfb.jpg)
He also has a texture problem (and Silver)
*Tails's wrench has been removed.
Anyway, using my Tails technique, I give you...Silver!
(http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac258/Mr_Winz/Silver1.jpg)
Note: his head's texture is messed up, like Tails.
(http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac258/Mr_Winz/Silver-1.jpg)
I'm not doing this, but rather, handing it off. Just in case you want the model, here it is:
http://www.mediafire.com/?nwtgoawymjo (http://www.mediafire.com/?nwtgoawymjo)
http://www.mediafire.com/?jc2yjimuwmr (http://www.mediafire.com/?jc2yjimuwmr)
But I believe Suren is working on it.
The head may not be placed properly in the DL's.
I am making Tails, not Silver. However, I have almost no knowledge of the (good) Sonic games, so if you want to suggest moves for Tails, go ahead!
So...how DID I get Tails to work?
Well, it's actually quite simple. First I hexed away Sonic's head (or you can use the Automatic Polygon Deleter). Then, I took Tails's model. I replaced one of Sonic's personal GFX with Tails's model. Then, I got rid of (shrank, or you can remove polygons) every part but the head and tails. After that, I called up that GFX in PSA, and I got Tails!
so how did you do this? are they playable? do they have animations? are their animations working properly? what other characters can you do this for?
I cant download it o and i love you in a non- homo way?
Re-uploaded!
They are just beginning to get made. I wanted to now if you had moveset suggestions, so I could incorporate them into Tails. I'm not the one doing Silver, I just made the model.
They do NOT freeze the game, and every part but the textures work well.
I did this by taking ONLY Tails's head and tails, turned them into char-specific GFX, and put them on a headless Sonic textured to look like Tails's body.
Can you do this with trophies? Probably.
Does the new Shadow Animations effect the model?
I wouldn't believe so.
May I suggest removing the wrench?
Can't wait to see a final Tails! Awesome you got it working!
;D Wr.Weegee Your awesome For showing this! ;D
Hey, in order to do this, did you rip Sonics head of via Brawl Box/ Hex editing and put Tails Head and Tails and or Silvers Head on top? :P
Awesome. Too bad the textures don't cooperate. I thought I saw a spine (quill, w/e it's called) on Tail's back.
OMG i love you!!! i was waiting for this alot of time ago!!
im a fan of silver xD and i love this!
plzzzz dont leave silver ;; try to fix/do something with him >.<
edit: omg nevermind
i see the work of suren on silver so.. can you update this post if he update the silver model ^^?
Quote from: NICKtendo DS on January 27, 2010, 11:53:13 AM
May I suggest removing the wrench?
Can't wait to see a final Tails! Awesome you got it working!
I did remove the wrench. I think it's in the OP.
Here's my current Tails moveset suggestions:
Quote from: Overdrive64here you can see tails throwing bombs (B>) and using the hammer (A>)
you can also see how when he throws a bomb while coptering, he throws it straight down
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9zrgVXcK1A&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9zrgVXcK1A&feature=related)
for the love of god though mute the video, the narrator sucks)
here you can see the spin attack from adventure (B neutral) at about the 5min mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahrD_04H2JE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahrD_04H2JE)
B^ should be copter, and if the whole deflecting deal like i talked about before is possible I'd add it but if not thats cool too :P
Bv should just be sonic's Bv
For a down smash I'd have him spin his tail around once like Popo does with his hammer
Idk why but an uppercut seems appropriate for an Up Smash, I know I've seen him do it somewhere lol
His standard A combo should stay the same as Sonic's too. The move comes from Sonic Fighters, and in that game Tails performs it identically to sonic
If you need ideas for random smashes or tilts, most of Sonics were taken from Sonic the Fighters
I have no idea for a Final Smash that would be programable, as Super Tails varies from Super Sonic by a wide margin. A transformation into his walker from Adventure 2 like fox into the landmaster would be epic, but good luck with that lol.
As a matter of fact, maybe you could just recolor the landmaster to look like the tornado... It'd be really fitting of tails even though were not in need of ANOTHER character with a landmaster lol.
These are just some ideas I have floating around, feel free to tell me they're horrible lol :P
Quote from: Leo KitsuneJust a couple suggestions for the Tails moveset:
I figure Tails would be the Megaman Volnutt/Trigger of the game, for those of you who have played Tatsunoko VS Capcom. Has a tool for everything and can do quite well at all ranges if you know what you're doing, and is an absolutely amazing character if you can master him... which is freaking hard to do.
-He should have that little plasma cannon thing he had in Sonic Battle.
-His recovery should be incredible. Up-B is free-flight where he can use certain attacks (such as dropping bombs) during it, but it has a short duration (like 2 seconds, or 3-4 if he can't move that fast). Should have multiple air-jumps, and can use his tails to hover (like how Peach can float) for about 3 seconds.
-Should be kind of light, but this goes without saying.
-His walk speed should be the same as Sonic's, and his dash should have instant acceleration (although his skid-turn should make him slide a decent distance). His dash speed should be slower than Sonic's, but still faster than everyone else.
-Given how Trigger-like his moveset possibilities are, he should definitely have some large combo capability, but it needs to revolve around proper use of his many assets. I know fighting games function differently, but as an example Megaman Trigger needs to swap weapons often (which is basically instantaneous) to have his combos work, but once you get the hang of it he is a complete and utter beast. Tails should be the same way, although he probably won't switch weapons so much as just use a different b-move at different parts of his combos.
For those of you who have no idea what I'm talking about, I can clarify a bit more if need be.
Quote from: Christian_CAO on January 27, 2010, 12:53:24 PM
;D Wr.Weegee Your awesome For showing this! ;D
Hey, in order to do this, did you rip Sonics head of via Brawl Box/ Hex editing and put Tails Head and Tails and or Silvers Head on top? :P
...I actually have the explanation to what I did hidden in one on my posts. See if you can find it! ;D
CTRL A works wonders. Good job weegee.
okay... hand over the rest of the model hacks that are going on on smashboards now. :P
Well, if you want a moveset for tails, he was in a fighting game. Sonic battle. watch a quick vid with him in it and you got your moveset
Quote from: Dotz on January 28, 2010, 01:50:23 AM
okay... hand over the rest of the model hacks that are going on on smashboards now. :P
Quote from: Brawlshifter
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Hm...it got oddly silent.
Dont do that to your own topic >.>
Anyways i saw what you did on smashboards(you where the one right?)...i wont be able to use that on Shadow will i?
Quote from: DMN666 on January 30, 2010, 03:22:11 AM
Dont do that to your own topic >.>
Anyways i saw what you did on smashboards(you where the one right?)...i wont be able to use that on Shadow will i?
DID you say SHADOW?!?
Maybe, Shadow has 25 bones, tails has 24, so why not?
Quote from: DMN666 on January 30, 2010, 03:22:11 AM
Dont do that to your own topic >.>
Anyways i saw what you did on smashboards(you where the one right?)...i wont be able to use that on Shadow will i?
Yep, that was me! ;D
You can use Shadow's head, right? Unless you were looking to use his whole body...
Quote from: HAXOR on January 30, 2010, 03:47:17 AM
Quote from: DMN666 on January 30, 2010, 03:22:11 AM
Dont do that to your own topic >.>
Anyways i saw what you did on smashboards(you where the one right?)...i wont be able to use that on Shadow will i?
DID you say SHADOW?!?
Maybe, Shadow has 25 bones, tails has 24, so why not?
You should read how I did it (highlight my 2nd post), and then it'll be clear to you.
is this a model hack for sonic? or is this one of those model characters that go over an alloy character? In other words, which character is this model being put on?
Hats are smart :D
The tails moveset? I've got some ideas.
Quote from: Overly Epux on January 30, 2010, 05:29:42 PM
The tails moveset? I've got some ideas.
...really? what ideas did you have?
Quote from: Mr.Weegee on January 30, 2010, 06:16:49 PM
Quote from: Overly Epux on January 30, 2010, 05:29:42 PM
The tails moveset? I've got some ideas.
...really? what ideas did you have?
look up SSF2,also i have the shadow PSA will this work with it?
Quote from: DMN666 on January 30, 2010, 07:37:30 PM
Quote from: Mr.Weegee on January 30, 2010, 06:16:49 PM
Quote from: Overly Epux on January 30, 2010, 05:29:42 PM
The tails moveset? I've got some ideas.
...really? what ideas did you have?
look up SSF2,also i have the shadow PSA will this work with it?
...the Tails thing is part of a PSA, so unless you did a small bit of swapping, the Tails wouldn't have a head. Same with Silver.
http://www.mcleodgaming.com/ssf2sprites/index.php?char=Tails (http://www.mcleodgaming.com/ssf2sprites/index.php?char=Tails)
SSF2 had a lot. Now I'm loaded with moves! :af:
Specking of SSF2 i really should be working on Pit.
Anyways told yah so,some of the moves are okay...
1. It looks like Tails doesn't have any eyes
2. For Information and if you can fix, Silver has yellow collored eyes, not purple like knuckles.
Quote from: Aztec on January 31, 2010, 08:07:14 AM
1. It looks like Tails doesn't have any eyes
2. For Information and if you can fix, Silver has yellow collored eyes, not purple like knuckles.
Spell fail :moar:
Quote from: Aztec on January 31, 2010, 08:07:14 AM
1. It looks like Tails doesn't have any eyes
2. For Information and if you can fix, Silver has yellow colored eyes, not purple like knuckles.
Yeah, it's a texture problem that I'm looking for the solution to...
EDIT: Progress report on Tails!
-Side B: Bomb throw--done! You can even adjust the angles and power, like Yoshi's egg!
-Down Smash: Tails attacking with his tails--done!
-Up B: Copter--almost done
-Ftilt: Him throwing a mouse-like mine forward, if it hits anyone or moves far enough, it explodes--done!
I made a Tails moveset ages ago before I started textures, you could take some idea's from it if you like. :)
http://chaosbrawl.deviantart.com/art/Tails-moveset-SSBB-85919228
Quote from: ChaotixNinjax on February 03, 2010, 03:01:00 AM
I made a Tails moveset ages ago before I started textures, you could take some idea's from it if you like. :)
http://chaosbrawl.deviantart.com/art/Tails-moveset-SSBB-85919228
Oh, yeah I forgot about physics! I guess I'll take it from this. Thx!
Here's what I had for the Final Smash...And in case you were going to suggest something like the Dragoon or Snake's Final Smash, I can't really do that.
I was gonna have a Landmaster-like final smash. I don't think I can just take the Landmaster and model swap because that would most likely freeze.
I was gonna rough it in PSA and make it able to fly around (maybe like Diddy Kong or Yoshi's final smash) and then make it shoot Super Scope shots if you pressed B. However, if it hurt people that it touched, I don't see much need for a barrel roll...well, maybe just for fun.
Then, at the end, it would fly across the screen horizontally (think of its range like the Light Arrow) and eliminate people.
I can't really do it much other ways because hitboxes refuse to work with variable offsets. But it would still be dragoon-like (except on a different axis) and Landmaster-ish (except with flying capabilities).
Tails progress!
Entry: he jumps out of the Tornado: Done!
Up B: Copter (and if you press B during the copter, he drops a bomb): done!
Side B: Bomb throw (and you can adjust the angle and power like Yoshi's egg): done!
Down smash: Tails spin: done!
Fsmash: he swings his hammer: done!
Neutral B: he fires his plasma cannon (I think its called): mostly done...
More progress (stuff I did recently)
Final smash: pretty much done! (http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac258/Mr_Winz/Tails2.jpg)
new run (and it's very sleek, if I must say so myself): done! (http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac258/Mr_Winz/Tails1.jpg)
GIMME MODEL OF PLANE NOAW
but seriously nice job o the fs
Oh yes! This Is Great. Mr.Weegee.
You should definitly have a Sonic Character ShowCase thread with All of the New Sonic Characters Replacing Sonic. tails, Knuckles, Silver, Shadow. Im working on a Shadow Moveset and Im almost Finished but since your one of the best moveset hackers, i was wondering if u could take a look at it. PM If you to see it. If not tis fine.
Holy [censored]... :af: :af2: :happy: :af: :af2: :happy: :af: :af2: :happy: :af: :af2: :happy: :af: :af2: :happy: :af: :af2: :happy: :af: :af2: :happy: :af: :af2: :happy: Epic!!! I see a lot of progress coming. And how did you make the Plane for him? :>.>: Just curious...
Omg mabye after this you could put toon zelda over link or wait,lemme guess you took silver and tails from green hill zone
Quote from: HAXOR on February 07, 2010, 01:50:52 AM
GIMME MODEL OF PLANE NOAW
but seriously nice job o the fs
Got mah model from Stoney. It's the plane in Rumble Falls.
Credit also goes to UncleOwnage for coming up with the idea to use that plane.
Quote from: Stoney
http://www.mediafire.com/?my0qmnnmoym
My Angel Island Zone texture for Rumble Falls. The plane is in ModelData[22] and the MDL0 is named StgJungle00LV10.
i_plane01 is the main texture. I don't quite remember what i_plane02 is for, but I think it's the blur for the spinning propeller.
Note that since the texture is mirrored on both sides of the plane, the "SONIC" is backwards on the plane's left side. I left it like this because the classic Tornado sprite from Sonic 3 & Knuckles had the same problem when the sprite was flipped vertically, and I figured it was a good homage.
Quote from: Ayzer on February 07, 2010, 03:20:04 AM
Oh yes! This Is Great. Mr.Weegee.
You should definitly have a Sonic Character ShowCase thread with All of the New Sonic Characters Replacing Sonic. tails, Knuckles, Silver, Shadow. Im working on a Shadow Moveset and Im almost Finished but since your one of the best moveset hackers, i was wondering if u could take a look at it. PM If you to see it. If not tis fine.
Sure, I could look at it. And about a Sonic Char Showcase Thread...not a bad idea, but it'll be a while before we get them done.
*cough*you forgot to capitalize Tails*cough*
Quote from: JaredHedgehog on February 07, 2010, 03:32:00 AM
Holy [censored]... :af: :af2: :happy: :af: :af2: :happy: :af: :af2: :happy: :af: :af2: :happy: :af: :af2: :happy: :af: :af2: :happy: :af: :af2: :happy: :af: :af2: :happy: Epic!!! I see a lot of progress coming. And how did you make the Plane for him? :>.>: Just curious...
It's the plane form Rumble Falls with a texture.
Quote from: X_funtaztic_X on February 07, 2010, 04:53:04 AM
Omg mabye after this you could put toon zelda over link or wait,lemme guess you took silver and tails from green hill zone
Kind of...but that's the genius behind it all, that Tails and Silver's models are supposed to freeze. Anyway, I think I pointed out how I did it...
He removed Sonic's head on his FitSonicXX file then used Sonic's FitSonic file to put Tails model on his head, changed his XYZ value to shrink his body.
I tried it with Knuckles and Shadow, worked like a charm :happy:
I suggest you get a tutorial up of exactly what you've done to get Tails working in here. Place it on the first post. If you're replacing models with trophy parts or something, I'd like to get Zero Suit Samus's head onto her Armored body.
Aww damn i wanted to do that XD
Like the metroid end pics i luv those
Quote from: Jack H. on February 08, 2010, 09:49:47 PM
I suggest you get a tutorial up of exactly what you've done to get Tails working in here. Place it on the first post. If you're replacing models with trophy parts or something, I'd like to get Zero Suit Samus's head onto her Armored body.
I put the instructions up. Maybe it would be better if I got a vid of it?
And yes, I'm pretty sure it works with Trophies.
Oh, and does anyone know of anything axe-like in all of Brawl?
Hey Mr.Weegee, I got some tails voice clips and I think a few sfx if you want to put them in your model. That way you wouldnt hear someone elses voice in battle and when you win. Im also trying to rip some silver clips too :)
Quote from: janfeae on February 09, 2010, 07:06:18 PM
Hey Mr.Weegee, I got some tails voice clips and I think a few sfx if you want to put them in your model. That way you wouldnt hear someone elses voice in battle and when you win. Im also trying to rip some silver clips too :)
I might be able to put it in, but I'm confused as how to do it...
Anyway, sounds nice! Well, I was gonna listen to some, but I realized there's no DL link.
Oh, and does anyone know of anything axe-like in all of Brawl?
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probably somebody in subspace
Every char deserves their own stage.
(http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac258/Mr_Winz/Tailsstage.jpg)
And this is Tails' stage.
Using his FS here looks ridiculous.
I forgot what I last told you, but I re-vamped the fsmash and dair.
Anyway, I'm finishing up the f-tilt (a clap), up-smash ( (http://www.mcleodgaming.com/ssf2sprites/characters/Tails/tails_aup.gif)), the nair (a 720 spin) and a mess of other things.
The stage will be released in the same package as Tails (just to tempt you). It's over FD right now, but I'll try to port it to GHZ to delete all traces of Sonic.
And here's some Tails pictures.
dair
(http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac258/Mr_Winz/Tailsdair.jpg)
side B (C.Falcon's about to get it)
(http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac258/Mr_Winz/TailsSideB.jpg)
Up Smash (Turned out really well)
(http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac258/Mr_Winz/TailsUpSmash.jpg)
Please don't tell me this project has died. I want Tails so bad, so please continue!!! I'll help animate if I have to.
this is old post over a year since this be made i think someone was making a tails over jiggypuff
Quote from: JayGamer on March 15, 2011, 09:02:12 AM
Please don't tell me this project has died. I want Tails so bad, so please continue!!! I'll help animate if I have to.
MAJOR necro post there.. That's against the rules.
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