Tails and Silver made possible!!!

[Mr.Weegee]

I just got an idea of how to do the impossible (in my sleep).
I just had to put everything else aside to see if it worked and IT DID!


Tails joins the Brawl! And he comes with a wrench!

"Now, who said I was impossible?"

He also has a texture problem (and Silver)

*Tails's wrench has been removed.

Anyway, using my Tails technique, I give you...Silver!


Note: his head's texture is messed up, like Tails.


I'm not doing this, but rather, handing it off. Just in case you want the model, here it is:
http://www.mediafire.com/?nwtgoawymjo
http://www.mediafire.com/?jc2yjimuwmr
But I believe Suren is working on it.

The head may not be placed properly in the DL's.

I am making Tails, not Silver. However, I have almost no knowledge of the (good) Sonic games, so if you want to suggest moves for Tails, go ahead!

So...how DID I get Tails to work?

Well, it's actually quite simple. First I hexed away Sonic's head (or you can use the Automatic Polygon Deleter). Then, I took Tails's model. I replaced one of Sonic's personal GFX with Tails's model. Then, I got rid of (shrank, or you can remove polygons) every part but the head and tails. After that, I called up that GFX in PSA, and I got Tails!

[poxag]

so how did you do this?  are they playable? do they have animations?  are their animations working properly?  what other characters can you do this for?

[sylaxux]

I cant download it o and i love you in a non- homo way?

[Mr.Weegee]

Re-uploaded!

They are just beginning to get made. I wanted to now if you had moveset suggestions, so I could incorporate them into Tails. I'm not the one doing Silver, I just made the model.

They do NOT freeze the game, and every part but the textures work well.

I did this by taking ONLY Tails's head and tails, turned them into char-specific GFX, and put them on a headless Sonic textured to look like Tails's body.

Can you do this with trophies? Probably.

[hughie]

Does the new Shadow Animations effect the model?

[Mr.Weegee]

I wouldn't believe so.

[NICKtendo DS]

May I suggest removing the wrench?
Can't wait to see a final Tails! Awesome you got it working!

[Christian_CAO]

  Wr.Weegee Your awesome For showing this!
Hey, in order to do this, did you rip Sonics head of via Brawl Box/ Hex editing and put Tails Head and Tails and or Silvers Head on top?

[Segtendo]

Awesome. Too bad the textures don't cooperate. I thought I saw a spine (quill, w/e it's called) on Tail's back.

[ikian]

OMG i love you!!! i was waiting for this alot of time ago!!

im a fan of silver xD and i love this!
plzzzz dont leave silver ;; try to fix/do something with him >.<

edit: omg nevermind
i see the work of suren on silver so.. can you update this post if he update the silver model ^^?

[Mr.Weegee]

May I suggest removing the wrench?
Can't wait to see a final Tails! Awesome you got it working!

I did remove the wrench. I think it's in the OP.

Here's my current Tails moveset suggestions:

here you can see tails throwing bombs (B>) and using the hammer (A>)
you can also see how when he throws a bomb while coptering, he throws it straight down
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9zrgVXcK1A&feature=related
for the love of god though mute the video, the narrator sucks)

here you can see the spin attack from adventure (B neutral) at about the 5min mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahrD_04H2JE

B^ should be copter, and if the whole deflecting deal like i talked about before is possible I'd add it but if not thats cool too

Bv should just be sonic's Bv

For a down smash I'd have him spin his tail around once like Popo does with his hammer

Idk why but an uppercut seems appropriate for an Up Smash, I know I've seen him do it somewhere lol

His standard A combo should stay the same as Sonic's too.  The move comes from Sonic Fighters, and in that game Tails performs it identically to sonic

If you need ideas for random smashes or tilts, most of Sonics were taken from Sonic the Fighters

I have no idea for a Final Smash that would be programable, as Super Tails varies from Super Sonic by a wide margin.  A transformation into his walker from Adventure 2 like fox into the landmaster would be epic, but good luck with that lol. 

As a matter of fact, maybe you could just recolor the landmaster to look like the tornado... It'd be really fitting of tails even though were not in need of ANOTHER character with a landmaster lol.

These are just some ideas I have floating around, feel free to tell me they're horrible lol

Just a couple suggestions for the Tails moveset:

I figure Tails would be the Megaman Volnutt/Trigger of the game, for those of you who have played Tatsunoko VS Capcom. Has a tool for everything and can do quite well at all ranges if you know what you're doing, and is an absolutely amazing character if you can master him... which is freaking hard to do.


-He should have that little plasma cannon thing he had in Sonic Battle.

-His recovery should be incredible. Up-B is free-flight where he can use certain attacks (such as dropping bombs) during it, but it has a short duration (like 2 seconds, or 3-4 if he can't move that fast). Should have multiple air-jumps, and can use his tails to hover (like how Peach can float) for about 3 seconds.

-Should be kind of light, but this goes without saying.

-His walk speed should be the same as Sonic's, and his dash should have instant acceleration (although his skid-turn should make him slide a decent distance). His dash speed should be slower than Sonic's, but still faster than everyone else.

-Given how Trigger-like his moveset possibilities are, he should definitely have some large combo capability, but it needs to revolve around proper use of his many assets. I know fighting games function differently, but as an example Megaman Trigger needs to swap weapons often (which is basically instantaneous) to have his combos work, but once you get the hang of it he is a complete and utter beast. Tails should be the same way, although he probably won't switch weapons so much as just use a different b-move at different parts of his combos.


For those of you who have no idea what I'm talking about, I can clarify a bit more if need be.

Wr.Weegee Your awesome For showing this!
Hey, in order to do this, did you rip Sonics head of via Brawl Box/ Hex editing and put Tails Head and Tails and or Silvers Head on top?

...I actually have the explanation to what I did hidden in one on my posts. See if you can find it!

[Blue]

CTRL A works wonders. Good job weegee.

[Dotz]

okay... hand over the rest of the model hacks that are going on on smashboards now.

[janfeae]

Well, if you want a moveset for tails, he was in a fighting game. Sonic battle. watch a quick vid with him in it and you got your moveset

[Mr.Weegee]

okay... hand over the rest of the model hacks that are going on on smashboards now.

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Primid over Olimar, thread here, video by ThunderSpam here.
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Tails over Sonic.
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Knuckle Joe over Yellow Alloy.
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