Question about CSP + Beep freeze of death.

[Rooness]

Hey there. - Fairly new to Wii / SSBB Hacking - Finnaly decided to give this all a try about a week ago.

The past few days I've been working for hours, trying to learn how to edit various things in brawl. I've made a lot of progress, but one thing is stumping me.

I've changed...
 - Models of characters in game
 - Character Select Portraits (CSP)
 - Character Select Icon Portraits
 - Brawl Menu
 - Strap Loaders
All that being done by either drag and dropping onto he SD card or editing the Common5.pac file via Brawlbox (However, I never had a common5.pac file to start with and had to download one from another site, is that normal?)

Anyway, my problem is, while editing different CSP / Models as I go along, I'll randomly get a "Beep Freeze Error" when I enter any screen with the CSPs. I don't understand why this happens, I'm doing everything right with Brawl Box. Everythings in the right area, all the images are the right size. It just happens at random. And forces me to redo all my work upto my last back up. And when I do redo my work, it'll occasionally give me the Beep Freeze Error on things that I've tested before that I know that works. (Ex. I edited Yoshi's Model to look like Boshi, and then changed his CSP to Boshi. Worked fine the first time around, but after getting a Beep Freeze Error after editing Toon Links CSP / Models, when I had gone back to my back up and redid Yoshi to Boshi, that ended up giving me the Beep Freeze Error.)

This is really frustrating as I'm trying to edit so much in Brawl, and having to go back and redo half of my work all the time has become a pain. - I've searched around but I can't seem to find much on this. If someone could shine some light on to this, I'd greatly appreciate it.


And not sure if this helps, however I'm currently using Brawl+ and have a hacked wii via Bannerbomb running 4.1.

Thanks in advance!

[DMN666]

1.You didnt edit the models you downloaded it ｜D
2.Its your CSP,do you make them custom?

[Rooness]

1.You didnt edit the models you downloaded it ｜D
2.Its your CSP,do you make them custom?

1. Never said I made the models myself. ;p Just said I changed whats in brawl, so yes, I just downloaded them. ;p (though don't see why you had to point that out. ;p)

2. And Yes, I made my own CSPs via photoshop.

[DMN666]

I knew it ｜3 IDK i dont make my own,and even if i did...well it would freeze(Actully i only made my own with SSS)
Just dont make your own,request some ppl to make them or go to the portrait thread and save some there.
Actully you said "I edited Yoshi's model to look like Boshi"

[Rooness]

Its not that I've made bad CSPs. - Theres nothing wrong with what I've made. - They all follow the guidelines, its all correct.

I know this for sure because of two things:
1.  As stated in my first post, I'll add in one characters new model / CSP and then go into the game and test to see if it works. - If it does, Ill continue. However, if the next set I load in causes the beep freeze, Ill have to restart from my back up file.

So, if I loaded in Peach's Models / CSPs > Test it and it works > Load in Toon Links Models / CSPs > Test it and it fails > Load back up Common5.pac that was created just before adding in Peach's Models / CSPs > Re add in Peach's Models / CSPs > Test it and it fails.

It seems to be doing this at random, which is why its puzzling me.

2. Also, I when I added in A Character's Model / CSPs and it caused the Beep Freeze Error I removed my custom CSPs from the Common5.pac and replaced it with the default ones from Brawl and it still caused the error.

After thinking some more and writing this post, I'm thinking it has something to do with Brawl Box and how it edits the Common5.pac file. Its the only conclusion I can come up with - Seeing as my errors are happening at random and nothings wrong with the CSPs that I'm using.

[DMN666]

Wait....you use Common5?

I use Selcharacter whateva, same goes with selstage.
If your not using riivolution,use those.

[zigheart]

it might be u went over the size limit or close to it i've heard that can cause random freezing on the css. just something to check

[Demibrot]

Hello Rooness,

I had exactly the same problem a while ago, so here are some tips to solve it:

1. The size of the picture should be exactly 128x160

2. like DMN666 - LuckyEva already said is Selcharacter  overpowering the common5 file so it is easier (in my opinion) to work with Selcharacter and Selmap

3. When the Selcharacter/common5 becomes too big in size the game is going too freezes ( but i dont think this is related to your problem )

4. (This will most likely be the Problem (I recommend using .png for csp´s)) When the file size of your csp´s is too big your game is going to freeze. The perfect Csp size is around 21KB (as .png). Here is the solution : download riot.exe ( http://www.mediafire.com/?mpc7aa90lbth1ea ) open the csp>press the png button below the initial image window>press mask located at the buttom of the screen>mark keep transparancy>press the big Save button at the top of the screen. Like that you can compress pics from 30KB to 8KB ect. Now you only have to replace it in brawlbox,press recommend and it should have the perfect size.

I hope i was able to help you   

Demibrot

[Puraidou]

Are you using PAL or NTSC?

Cause the common5.pac is pretty against PAL since it mostly crashes.
If you're using NTSC then the above options mentioned by Demibrot are the most likely.

[Soul Nami]

If the common5.pac IS your correct region, you may need a new common5.

For some reason, when I got a new one it worked.

First, for your CSP's, export the char_bust_tex from your common5.pac to your desktop.

Go here and download the NTSC common5.pac (if you are NTSC)
http://www.mediafire.com/?mdtddxcmaly

after that, go into the new common5.pac, and find the char_bust_tex file.
click once on the char_bust_tex file, then right click, then click replace.

choose the char_bust_tex that you have exported from the old common5.pac that keeps crashing.

after replacing, save the changes to the common5.pac

now go test it.
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If you are PAL, you might have to do some internet searching to get the common5.pac
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Are you NTSC and using a sc_selcharacter_en file in riivolution?(not the file located in the common5.pac)
(e.g the flaming blue css)

Do you use riivolution?

(these instructions were included just incase the common5.pac is "dirty" or broken.)

[Rooness]

Sorry I haven't replied for awhile. I haven't had time to continue trying these methods and working on brawl - However, I beleive you're right. I looked into the file sizes of my images, and a few of them happen to be a fair bit larger then the average file. Which I'm going to assume thats the reason thats been causing these crashes.

Ill have to try compressing them over the next few days and post results.

Thanks all for the tip btw!
And I'm using NTSC.

Hello Rooness,

I had exactly the same problem a while ago, so here are some tips to solve it:

1. The size of the picture should be exactly 128x160

2. like DMN666 - LuckyEva already said is Selcharacter  overpowering the common5 file so it is easier (in my opinion) to work with Selcharacter and Selmap

3. When the Selcharacter/common5 becomes too big in size the game is going too freezes ( but i dont think this is related to your problem )

4. (This will most likely be the Problem (I recommend using .png for csp´s)) When the file size of your csp´s is too big your game is going to freeze. The perfect Csp size is around 21KB (as .png). Here is the solution : download riot.exe ( http://www.mediafire.com/?mpc7aa90lbth1ea ) open the csp>press the png button below the initial image window>press mask located at the buttom of the screen>mark keep transparancy>press the big Save button at the top of the screen. Like that you can compress pics from 30KB to 8KB ect. Now you only have to replace it in brawlbox,press recommend and it should have the perfect size.

I hope i was able to help you  

Demibrot