Project Fire Sonic(SMBZ) Demo Video!

Started by Naruto200Man, August 22, 2010, 05:41:30 AM

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Heyoooooo time for another rediculously overpowered sonic psa? Heck there's always time for another one! And this one is gonna be shweeeeeet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U7QxJ3Mayo

New moveset.

Neutral B: Fire snap: In smbz fire sonic snapped his fingers to unleash a burning fire of pain. This aspect was used to give birth to his new homing attack. you don't even need to be so close to hit!

Up B: Burning launch: A fitting new animation and none of his crappy spring. It also has a spike that does a bit of damage.

Down B: Cutting Edge: For the first few moments of charging you can damage your opponent. you also go into your Side B if you're still rolling and press b + control stick left/right

Side B: Burning punch: This move isn't as powerful as a falcon punch, but it looks nice (I'm actually still tweeking it)

Up Smash: Burning force: This new up smash draggs your opponent into a burning hellfire generated by sonics friction. This move is hard to time properly but is a good insta-ko after you've pounded the enemy some.

Final Smash40%complete will not be included in demo version download uppon release): Volcanic fire. Sonic unleashes a fire blast so imense that it covers the whole screen! Enemies are sent straight up with damage to sparre for a nice KO. Doesn't have much range though so use it wisely.

A Combo: A: normal a combo AA: A low kick to trip ur opponent. AAA: same as before.

Up A: An instant version of his old Up Smash that does some decent damage
Down A: An instant version of his down smash with a bit of damage.

Other changes: 5
1: He runs faster
2: He'll burn you and send you flying  a bit in the final version if you touch him while he's waiting, running, walking, or turning. (Doesn't include items)
3: badass graphics job setup by my partner in crime :3
4: Side taunt generates fire flower
5: Down taunt generates hothead.

Download will have acurate shoes but everything else in the vid is simi-final.

Planned changes:
Up smash to look exactly like Zelda's but with fire graphics
Down B hitbox loops as long as your charging instead of the first few seconds.
Multiple jumps (still can't figure that out yet. sonic just won't do it T-T)
Get new final smash to work XD
Up taunt to slow down time for more than six seconds -_-'''
Side taunt item replaced with secret attack idea. (once I get it working X_X)

um i have an idea  erase Down B and put him snapping his fingers and then a giant fire pillar that extends to 1000 y axis.10% and low knockback and also invincivility frames.
http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=12143.0

ya want extra moves on ya psa check out my tutorial.

Best used with riivolution.


Quote from: cyberdark on August 22, 2010, 07:44:19 PM
awesome moveset  NaruZeldaMaster

Yeah, I'm trying to figure out why exactly sonic still goes into ball form instead of doing zelda's animation. on the upsmsh. On a further note I'm not sure why the charging attack doesn't work after the first time.

On a side note: His eyes and shoes are acurate in the actual dl once I get the final smash to work X_X

Quote from: ADJSonic on August 22, 2010, 12:15:38 PM
um i have an idea  erase Down B and put him snapping his fingers and then a giant fire pillar that extends to 1000 y axis.10% and low knockback and also invincivility frames.
Yeah I second this. Also, you should make his B move a long-range attack like Mario's (or Luigi's) Fireballs. What's the use of having the Fire Flower power if you can't even utilize the old fashion Fireballs (Fire Sonic even uses these).

Real men use Peach

Quote from: BlazingBarrager on August 22, 2010, 09:42:20 PM
Quote from: ADJSonic on August 22, 2010, 12:15:38 PM
um i have an idea  erase Down B and put him snapping his fingers and then a giant fire pillar that extends to 1000 y axis.10% and low knockback and also invincivility frames.
Yeah I second this. Also, you should make his B move a long-range attack like Mario's (or Luigi's) Fireballs. What's the use of having the Fire Flower power if you can't even utilize the old fashion Fireballs (Fire Sonic even uses these).

Trust me, if I could I would, but you have no idea how complex sonics side and down b are X_X;; I'll try and see what I can do, it probably won't be a mario fireball though.

welll then what about B.
http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=12143.0

ya want extra moves on ya psa check out my tutorial.

Best used with riivolution.

Quote from: ADJSonic on August 23, 2010, 12:29:48 AM
welll then what about B.
Same thing, there's  a lot of stuff for that, but dun worry i had an interesting idea that I'm gonna try if I can get some help from hollow :3

You should've told me about the multiple jumps, up taunt, and the down b charge. I can possibly fix those.

Sadly, my computer has decided "Windows Explorer is not responding".

So I have about a minute to do stuff and then everything shuts down. The start menu, the toolbar, the shortcuts, everything just disappears.

But I'll tell you when this is fixed and I can help.

Quote from: 14fanofanime on August 23, 2010, 10:38:27 PM
You should've told me about the multiple jumps, up taunt, and the down b charge. I can possibly fix those.

Sadly, my computer has decided "Windows Explorer is not responding".

So I have about a minute to do stuff and then everything shuts down. The start menu, the toolbar, the shortcuts, everything just disappears.

But I'll tell you when this is fixed and I can help.
Quote from: 14fanofanime on August 23, 2010, 10:38:27 PM
You should've told me about the multiple jumps, up taunt, and the down b charge. I can possibly fix those.

Sadly, my computer has decided "Windows Explorer is not responding".

So I have about a minute to do stuff and then everything shuts down. The start menu, the toolbar, the shortcuts, everything just disappears.

But I'll tell you when this is fixed and I can help.

Okay, that'll be good :3 I'm really hoping to figure out how to get sonic to do fox's side b though on his side taunt,  that'd be awesome.

Also, figured out why sonic's feet disappear in the animations, his toe bones are moved to a different place and they're like way backwards XD It might take half the evening, but I'm gonna try and make sonic do fox's side B as one animation. (Due to the taunt being one animation)


August 23, 2010, 10:49:20 PM #11 Last Edit: August 23, 2010, 10:50:15 PM by NotAFrog
Wow. So that's what the secret project was.... Very very cool. :af2:
Help contrubute to the Hacking Starter Guide here: http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=15199.0

Check out my topic: http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=16844.msg292461#msg292461

WOOH! I GOTS A LAPTOP!!!

Quote from: NaruZeldaMaster on August 22, 2010, 10:30:18 PM
Quote from: BlazingBarrager on August 22, 2010, 09:42:20 PM
Quote from: ADJSonic on August 22, 2010, 12:15:38 PM
um i have an idea  erase Down B and put him snapping his fingers and then a giant fire pillar that extends to 1000 y axis.10% and low knockback and also invincivility frames.
Yeah I second this. Also, you should make his B move a long-range attack like Mario's (or Luigi's) Fireballs. What's the use of having the Fire Flower power if you can't even utilize the old fashion Fireballs (Fire Sonic even uses these).

Trust me, if I could I would, but you have no idea how complex sonics side and down b are X_X;; I'll try and see what I can do, it probably won't be a mario fireball though.

His side B and down B are connected.

Literally, there's AttackLwStart and AttackLwEnd.

To do the actual attack, it just sends Sonic from the down b start to the side b attack.

It's really hard to make 2 separate attacks (luckily we managed to), but doing stuff extremely different that would require different subactions is harder to do.

Sonic's side b is only 1 subaction while his down b is the same but with different attack attributes.

Quote from: 14fanofanime on August 23, 2010, 10:55:28 PM
Quote from: NaruZeldaMaster on August 22, 2010, 10:30:18 PM
Quote from: BlazingBarrager on August 22, 2010, 09:42:20 PM
Quote from: ADJSonic on August 22, 2010, 12:15:38 PM
um i have an idea  erase Down B and put him snapping his fingers and then a giant fire pillar that extends to 1000 y axis.10% and low knockback and also invincivility frames.
Yeah I second this. Also, you should make his B move a long-range attack like Mario's (or Luigi's) Fireballs. What's the use of having the Fire Flower power if you can't even utilize the old fashion Fireballs (Fire Sonic even uses these).

Trust me, if I could I would, but you have no idea how complex sonics side and down b are X_X;; I'll try and see what I can do, it probably won't be a mario fireball though.

His side B and down B are connected.

Literally, there's AttackLwStart and AttackLwEnd.

To do the actual attack, it just sends Sonic from the down b start to the side b attack.

It's really hard to make 2 separate attacks (luckily we managed to), but doing stuff extremely different that would require different subactions is harder to do.

Sonic's side b is only 1 subaction while his down b is the same but with different attack attributes.

So that's why he does the new side B when dashing with the down B and pressing side B interesting, I looked at the move in psa and I couldn't figure out how that happened.

Also, thanks to a tip from Hollow I figured out how to fix the problem where it comes out of his body (the hitbox on the side B) I'll try and impliment it as best I can, but I don't know how it's going to work.

Hey if you could try to use the Super Sonic model instead of the standard model. Gives him more of the actual feeling.

Real men use Peach