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[Justin712]

So Justin, any word on that tutorial? Just askin.

Yep, I'm workin' on it. Not sure when I'll have it ready yet.

[xxmasal22xx]

Yep, I'm workin' on it. Not sure when I'll have it ready yet.

Aight, cool. Take your time :)

[DarkPikachu]

hey BJ...
I've just done some figuring :D

the node table in the object header indexes a portion of the node table below the main header

I don't think the first value would index in the main node table as there are 16bit indecies,
and the first value only supports 8bit indecies...

so the last Idea I have is it indexes a definition directly...
the definition would take you to the node, which would take you to the bone...

note, this is only a hypothesis, but it's the best I got

[♤♡◇♧]

Justin712 sent me the fully functional Naruto rig, but with the latest modset, I get this error:

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Does anyone know why I get this?

EDIT:
I have to admit that my laptop has been partially broken since begin June (I mostly fixed it, but I still get an error with BBox 0.63 when trying to save something that hasn't been changed, saying it is currently used by another process).

[??_?]

blackjax, would it be possible to add zero function to polygons?  So you don't have to manually hex them out?

[DarkPikachu]

well BJ...
was wrong about the weight table under the 'Object' header...

it seems that table links directly to the definitions...

only thing is:
'00 00'-'00 16' are type 5 defs
'00 17'-'01 0B' are type 3 defs
end of table

I've looked through the definitions with my template (yes it works now),
and the ordering of the type 5's are wierd

it goes from '01 0B' (type 3) to: (type 5)
'01 11'-'01 19'
'01 1B'-'01 1C'
'01 1F'-'01 20'
'01 22'-'01 23'
end

here's the full type 5 structure:

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after that is type 3 ('00 17'-'01 0B')
and the corresponding weights/bone ID's

I still havn't found how the facepoints link up with these yet >_>
but I have found that the type 3 count is 244 ( < 255 ),
so there may be a possibility of a type 3 index w/in the facepoints >_>

however, the highest I've seen in the facepoints so far is '18' == 24,
and 244 == 'F4', out-ruling that possibility

so yea...
I still don't know yet

EDIT:
the highest value is '1B'

[Eternal Yoshi]

I have a question that I hope isn't to intrusive.

Is there a way to scale existing Mdl0s without using keyframes and bones?

I have Simon Belmont's model from Castlevania Judgement that needs to be scaled to 11 times his size.

I don't want to use Fortwaffle's tool because the tool causes Simon's face to "mesh" incorrectly when it's scaled.

Like is there a way to scale Simon's model via vertices, normals, and such?

[DarkPikachu]

I think I may have an accurate theory as to how the first value works...
if I were to order the used bone matrices and then index them with the first value...
IDK for sure yet though >_>





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I have a question that I hope isn't to intrusive. Is there a way to scale existing Mdl0s without using keyframes and bones? I have Simon Belmont's model from Castlevania Judgement that needs to be scaled to 11 times his size. I don't want to use Fortwaffle's tool because the tool causes Simon's face to "mesh" incorrectly when it's scaled. Like is there a way to scale Simon's model via vertices, normals, and such?

if you scale the verts, you'd have to scale the rig, as well as (I think) re-apply the weights
scaling the rig may fix that though >_>

[Stitch]

Just a question:
If I imported a model of someone who normally holds a sword but the model doesn't, how could I attach a sword?

[DSX8]

Just a question:
If I imported a model of someone who normally holds a sword but the model doesn't, how could I attach a sword?

well if it has a sword model in the fighter .pac  or in the FitMotionEtc file, then u'd have to add a bone to the model to where it has the same bone name as his sword..

^ i could be wrong... but its just a theory of mine ^^"

[Eternal Yoshi]

Thanks for the input.

For the sake of understanding, here's a comparison.

On the left is the model scaled to 11x by Fortwaffles resizer thing.

On the right is the model scaled to 11x by using an animation.



Trying to make sure it's permanently scaled like that outside of animation so it's big enough for Brawl.

Yes I know that the eyes look weird. So do most eyes in BB except for Snake's.

[xxmasal22xx]

Thanks for the input.

For the sake of understanding, here's a comparison.

On the left is the model scaled to 11x by Fortwaffles resizer thing.

On the right is the model scaled to 11x by using an animation.



Trying to make sure it's permanently scaled like that outside of animation so it's big enough for Brawl.

Yes I know that the eyes look weird. So do most eyes in BB except for Snake's.

Just scale the t=stance then. That way, by default the animations AND the model are the right size.

[Eternal Yoshi]

So that method will keep the model scaled even when the animation prohibits me from doing so?

Like if He gets thrown or caught by flame choke?

[DSX8]

Thanks for the input.

For the sake of understanding, here's a comparison.

On the left is the model scaled to 11x by Fortwaffles resizer thing.

On the right is the model scaled to 11x by using an animation.



Trying to make sure it's permanently scaled like that outside of animation so it's big enough for Brawl.

Yes I know that the eyes look weird. So do most eyes in BB except for Snake's.

hmm wow... i see wat u mean... when i try to do that with TvC models, they become like stick figures... its... weird... o-e

[Naruto200Man]

lol
you named the animation derp >_>

ehhhhh.....

how long before I can perfectly port a character over to a different character? :af: