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[Gamma Ridley]

Awwww yiss. Happy to be of service.

[BlackJax96]

Also, what do you mean by "use fur?"

exactly what the phrase says

are you being literal??

if you are:
how else did you figure out that info on the SWF thread...
you told me that the unknown offsets were for fur and something else


if there's no known MDL0's, how do you know about it then??

...I have... sources...

[pikazz]

exactly what the phrase says

...I have... sorcerer...

sorcerer? I didnt believe you believed in magic *snort snort*

but can I has some box of cupcakes?

[DarkPikachu]

...I have... sources...

WHAT!?!?

Who in the heck??
...
Who in the heavens??

[BlackJax96]

lol

Ok so I just came to realize that I'll have to regenerate object primitives if influences are going to be editable.
That'll be a pain in the ass since a group of primitives can only use up to 10 different influences for every vertex; it was annoying enough grouping primitives for model imports because of this.
I also have to recreate the vertex sets and re-link indices in the object primitives if any influences are converted from multi-bone to single-bone or vice versa.

Bad news: Vertex weighting tragically won't be in v0.68.
Good news: Vertex moving still will be and the release will be very soon now.

[DarkPikachu]

well, I'm not entirely sure, but something's telling me that's not fur data...

I don't recall partical systems using vertex positions or layering info :/


you sure that ain't curve data??

... whatever,
I won't question it really because I don't know partical systems too well...

[BlackJax96]

I am beyond 100% sure it's fur data.

[Tabuu Forte Akugun]

Wow, very soon, huh? I'm stoked. I'm in no hurry to have vertex weights editable, but RSAR, that's a whole different ball game.

[DarkPikachu]

I am beyond 100% sure it's fur data.

KK
like I said, I won't question as I don't know enough...

however, could you link me to your sources plox


EDIT:
also...
can you at least help me understand how brbx stores the model data internally :/

like, are the vertices stored in arrays or arranged class instances??

eg:
class primitive:
    def __init__(self):
        self.type = TRIANGLES
        #facepoints here
        self.next = primitive()
        self.prev = primitine()

#used as:
p = primitive()
while p.next != None:
    #read primitive data
    p = p.next #continue to the next class instance


^does brbx use that??
or something else??

[BlackJax96]

could you link me to your sources plox

I was told not to share them with anyone.
Sorry :L

[DarkPikachu]

I was told not to share them with anyone.
Sorry :L

who told you??
now it's personal...
PM me

[BlackJax96]

KK
like I said, I won't question as I don't know enough...

however, could you link me to your sources plox


EDIT:
also...
can you at least help me understand how brbx stores the model data internally :/

like, are the vertices stored in arrays or arranged class instances??

eg:
class primitive:
    def __init__(self):
        self.type = TRIANGLES
        #facepoints here
        self.next = primitive()
        self.prev = primitine()

#used as:
p = primitive()
while p.next != None:
    #read primitive data
    p = p.next #continue to the next class instance


^does brbx use that??
or something else??

It's insanely complicated. :L

who told you??

[DarkPikachu]

I want to find whoever told you not to share the info,
and I want to officially slap them in the face.
why should this gem of information be hidden away so noone can see, or learn from it
I mean... it's not like a group of 8 to 10 people AREN'T working to fully figure out the format.


if one things for certain, I HATE being kept in the dark when it comes to good knowledge.


- not sharing knowledge as to how you did something makes you greedy.
- classifying yourself makes you a coward.

just to note, that's not directed at you BJ
I'm hoping the dude who told you will run across this post.
Post Merge: April 21, 2013, 08:42:31 PMhey BJ
here's an idea for ya:

instead of brbx only being able to load 1 file at a time,
have it support multiple files

that way you could open the model archive, the animations archive, and the logic archive,
and have the models from everything show up in the previewer, along with the animations and logic already pre-loaded


would that be easy to implament??
or does brbx have to completely clear it's internal memory before loading the new file??

[Spex130]

hey BJ
here's an idea for ya:

instead of brbx only being able to load 1 file at a time,
have it support multiple files

that way you could open the model archive, the animations archive, and the logic archive,
and have the models from everything show up in the previewer, along with the animations and logic already pre-loaded


would that be easy to implament??
or does brbx have to completely clear it's internal memory before loading the new file??

I was actually also thinking about this the other day.

If there could be a simple "container" that could hold ALL the files for a character (Say, the essentials: A 00 costume, a movesetPac, and a MotionEtc) and be able to dump them all out on command would be super dandy.

Maybe call it a .brbx, haha.

Still though, just file that in the "if I feel like it lol" folder. It's not like we just can't deal with it or something.

[BlackJax96]

Brawlbox can already open multiple model files along with animations and a PSA in the model viewer.

Ikarus is gonna have an option to just open the whole freaking root folder of all the Brawl files anyway so there you go.

Opening multiple files in the main program is unnecessary as you can just open multiple Brawlbox instances.