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« Reply #5295 on: November 29, 2012, 06:29:40 PM » |
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What's wrong with that? Some people ask for donations and stuff, what's the difference?
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« Reply #5296 on: November 29, 2012, 06:36:42 PM » |
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If I got 10 cents for every download on my vault, I'd have $3,474.80!? What's wrong with that? Some people ask for donations and stuff, what's the difference?
It's not really "donations" though, it's like forced payment in a way, even though the user isn't necessarily losing money (but they are wasting their lives looking at and skipping adfly ads)... |
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« Reply #5297 on: November 29, 2012, 06:43:34 PM » |
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If I got 10 cents for every download on my vault,
I'd have $3,474.80!?
Lol,LOL! If that worked would make the memorable quote "If hacking paid bills" real  can we report an import for an arm not rigged?
only one arm is rigged lol
o_O In that case i have a large list of similar problems >_> |
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« Reply #5298 on: November 29, 2012, 06:44:26 PM » |
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What's wrong with that? Some people ask for donations and stuff, what's the difference?
Well, I do know we can't ask money for stuff here. That would get us C&D'd. I'd assume if we were being strict that Ad.fly would count with the "getting money off of stuff we didn't make" thing. Not that using Ad.fly would actually attract attention from a company like Nintendo, but it would still be against the rules. Just my opinion, is all. The way I see it, donations aren't mandatory. Donations are generosity, not business. Donations are "I'm giving this to you because I like what you're doing." You can't rely on donations. Ad.fly is kind of "If you want this thing, you'll have to go through this thing that will make me money." That's like a (extra low-low-level-super-metaphorical) hold-up situation. I mean, I recently saw someone putting up a soundtrack from a Sonic fangame (that wasn't his) using Ad.fly. It's kinda the same. Making money off of stuff that isn't yours. NOTICE: Ninja'd. |
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« Reply #5299 on: November 29, 2012, 06:55:44 PM » |
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Well, I do know we can't ask money for stuff here. That would get us C&D'd. I'd assume if we were being strict that Ad.fly would count with the "getting money off of stuff we didn't make" thing. Not that using Ad.fly would actually attract attention from a company like Nintendo, but it would still be against the rules. Just my opinion, is all.
The way I see it, donations aren't mandatory. Donations are generosity, not business. Donations are "I'm giving this to you because I like what you're doing." You can't rely on donations.
Ad.fly is kind of "If you want this thing, you'll have to go through this thing that will make me money." That's like a (extra low-low-level-super-metaphorical) hold-up situation.
I mean, I recently saw someone putting up a soundtrack from a Sonic fangame (that wasn't his) using Ad.fly. It's kinda the same. Making money off of stuff that isn't yours.
NOTICE: Ninja'd.
We can get C&D'd as it is now though... I guess it'd be annoying to have every hack have an adfly link, but they don't get revenue if you skip ads, do they? So it isn't really forced payment. And they really aren't making very much anyways. If you're downloading a mod in the first place, why would you not want to support the artist? |
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« Reply #5300 on: November 29, 2012, 07:44:18 PM » |
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We can get C&D'd as it is now though...
I guess it'd be annoying to have every hack have an adfly link, but they don't get revenue if you skip ads, do they? So it isn't really forced payment. And they really aren't making very much anyways. If you're downloading a mod in the first place, why would you not want to support the artist?
Sure, we can, but why rock the boat? Also, I'm not sure about the skip. Isn't the five-second wait there so that the ads can load? I'll have to look into that. Thirdly, I'd be all for Ad.fly links if what was being downloaded was original work. Not "I rigged this thing that was ripped from a game" but "I modeled, textured and rigged this thing myself." Most of what we have on the vault isn't original in that sense. |
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« Reply #5301 on: November 29, 2012, 07:48:34 PM » |
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Yeah, I guess it'd be pretty ridiculous to have them on music.
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« Reply #5302 on: November 29, 2012, 08:32:06 PM » |
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« Reply #5303 on: November 29, 2012, 10:50:56 PM » |
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Just joining in to say that as far as I know you cannot get legal problems from modding unless it encourages piracy or make money out of something not made by you. So as long as we don't get paid it should be fine, at least as far as I know. I could buy a lot of stuff if I got .10 dollars per download, what BJ said, made me realize that , but it wouldn't be right. |
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« Reply #5304 on: November 30, 2012, 12:42:01 AM » |
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I could buy a lot of stuff if I got .10 dollars per download, what BJ said, made me realize that , but it wouldn't be right. But you effort doing it, but youre right with the if isnt made by you. But sorry to bring this back just is a question. For example i made 2 custom models...watt and broggy and they arent copy or clones of other model is my own work. If only "If" the vault lets i use adfly in the models download..this is considered right or still is considered illegal/ or wrong? |
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« Reply #5305 on: November 30, 2012, 01:16:35 AM » |
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I'm not sure, for example, I made fireman.exe a custom model from scratch. It has my effort on modelying, UVs and rigging, but still I can't use it to gain money since the character is not mine. The model is mine but the identity of the character is not of my property. Legal stuff with intelectual rights can be weird |
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« Reply #5306 on: November 30, 2012, 04:02:21 AM » |
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In all legal, official, and what ever stuff, Here's my bit on the matter:
Using Adfly to gain money on som'in that we're doing is highly illegal. hell what we do is already that. No matter if the model is 100% som'in no one's ever seen, or a game rip, it's still not our data code that we're injecting into brawl. If the game was made by us, I'd say "Go for it". But it's not. Also Having to take an extra step to download som'in from the vault is really not nessisary and Adfly can, and has, confused people into clicking the wrong thing.
Minecraft is known for it's huge mod base and adfly use cause of how popular it is. It's been stated that the devs incurage Modding of the client, so using Adfly in that case is ok.
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« Reply #5307 on: November 30, 2012, 06:23:20 PM » |
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Yeah, that's understandable. I don't think that people are wrong to ask for donations though
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« Reply #5308 on: November 30, 2012, 06:38:59 PM » |
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Yeah, that's understandable. I don't think that people are wrong to ask for donations though
Right. Donations usually help in many ways, all the while being temporary deposits to that person. Which is actually a real legal monitory tender style. |
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« Reply #5309 on: November 30, 2012, 06:40:34 PM » |
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Right. Donations usually help in many ways, all the while being temporary deposits to that person. Which is actually a real legal monitory tender style.
i remember i put a donations thing on my thread and everyone went crazy about it and last month someone actually donated i got 3 bucks  |
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Quotes: Not all people have the luxury of being able to buy things whenever they want.
Some people are barely scraping by in the economy.
Modding has made you guys so spoiled.
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