Brawl Vault Problems, Updates, and Suggestions

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January 08, 2011, 02:57:41 AM #30 Last Edit: January 08, 2011, 03:06:45 PM by Tcll
I don't like chrome...
not alot of options...

and FF just lags and freezes with me :/

besides...
I still have to dumb my website down to work with them...
(especially opera)

I think I'll keep the high class look for IE,
and set a few low class looks for the others...
images cause more lag than DirectX with IE

eh...
I'll just wait for you to fix it :)
it's only a small error...
I didn't know it was JS controlling it though

EDIT:
read that page...
you're using proboards right??
^ignore that Q
it doesn't do it for me on my forum...
(I use proboards)

plus, I think it's fixable...
this is the only (THE only) website that's done that to me,
and it's only on that one page...

I'm thinking you can use some code from another textbox here,
and edit that buggy textbox with the code :/

[spoiler]Quote: Friedslick6
you have been through a lot of hassle. I've watched every topic you posted on this, and most of them seemed to disintegrate gradually.
But the coolest part was that you didn't stop working on it despite that.

Quote: Internet Explorer
you're doing more with your life right now than probably most other people around you. You're a valuable asset to the Smash community. So yeah, you should be proud.

quote: Greg
You do have a gift which I've seen many developers use to their advantage. You can become a great coder, and with all of those ideas I think you can really build something great.

But, the text box isn't buggy. For all intents and purposes, the code should work the same everywhere --- IE is the odd man out here.

http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php

Catering to IE only or specifically means you are neglecting likely 50% of your audience nowadays, more so as your user base is bound to be more tech savvy than a knitting forum.

Stealing code from proboards isn't gonna help --- completely different set of functions from simple machine forums. As I said, it's fixable and I'll get around to it some day... but this is a bug brought on by IE and IE alone... worse yet --- the bug is specific to a newer version meaning Microsoft introduced even more bugs into their software.


January 08, 2011, 03:36:21 AM #32 Last Edit: January 08, 2011, 03:06:35 PM by Tcll
again...
this is the only forum I've been on that's done it...
and it's only in that window...
it has to be the code is all...

you get to it whenever :)
at least you know about it ;)
that's all that matters

and I'm not just catering to IE (in coding)
I just mention'd I had to make lower grade codes using images which take up space and cause lag >:/
I'm making it compatible with the other browsers...
(sry 4 lag though T_T)

[spoiler]Quote: Friedslick6
you have been through a lot of hassle. I've watched every topic you posted on this, and most of them seemed to disintegrate gradually.
But the coolest part was that you didn't stop working on it despite that.

Quote: Internet Explorer
you're doing more with your life right now than probably most other people around you. You're a valuable asset to the Smash community. So yeah, you should be proud.

quote: Greg
You do have a gift which I've seen many developers use to their advantage. You can become a great coder, and with all of those ideas I think you can really build something great.

January 08, 2011, 04:04:30 AM #33 Last Edit: January 08, 2011, 04:05:28 AM by picano
While the code may be buggy in IE, it's just buggy in IE. I still maintain that it's IEs fault! There are hundreds of ways to perform a task with code, it just so happens that the current IE fails at this particular one.

Still though, images are a basic part of any site although CSS is quickly replacing some uses (gradients, rounded corners). If images are making your site lag --- you are doing something wrong (or are so far behind spec wise that your computer shouldn't be able to see most sites today).

Images should be...

  • Low file size while retaining quality with respect to their purpose

    • png is great for less compression and transparency but can be overkill for large, complex images
    • gif for quick, small animations or transparency on a specific colored background
    • jpg for larger, more complex images where absolute perfection isn't necessary
  • Hosted on a decently fast connection

    • Free hosts tend to suck... some times it is simply faster to host images elsewhere. I've abused photobucket (and more recently imageshack) for that purpose
  • Used as necessary or to provide emphasis

    • Google, Youtube, Hulu, Facebook... rather great examples.
    • Can't say I obey this myself... tend to make stuff look fancy while sacrificing efficiency.

And as far as managing multiple variations of a site dependent on browser goes... I suppose it can work out but well... either you are using different links to do so (placing the annoyance on the users) or building it into the code itself (likely using PHP which we tried messing with earlier...) --- this forum already has TONS of IE specific code, both in the pure HTML and in the PHP, to make the site clean and functional in all browsers.

But... I'll end my rant here. Using stuff which will work only in one browser is never a good idea, even if you do support other browsers in some way. (My annoyances with it include... pre-FF support Toonami Jetstream, Chrome specific functionality in youtube, old-outdated sites that force you to use IE for lame reasons :P)


January 08, 2011, 04:27:09 AM #34 Last Edit: January 08, 2011, 04:28:27 AM by Tcll

JSYK...
I agree with most all of yur post there... :)

but just to mention, IE's been out longer than any of these other noobs...
I think people are progging for the noobs rather than the pros...
(which whould explain why you say IE fails)
^IE prbly has a better method than FF or chrome,
but the method that they use tends to be easier to prog

Netscape and Dreamweaver quit for some reason <_<

I choose IE because of it's history and compatibility...

just like the XP, Vista, and 7 OS wars
I hate to break the truth to ya people...
Vista < 7 < XP
you can call it blastphemy all you want, but it's true...

... oh and about the lag thing...
granted it's not by alot, but images do take longer to load (causing lag)
than dynamically generating a gradient with DX.
along with long webpages...

it's a killer job for the CPU is what I'm trying to say :/

[spoiler]Quote: Friedslick6
you have been through a lot of hassle. I've watched every topic you posted on this, and most of them seemed to disintegrate gradually.
But the coolest part was that you didn't stop working on it despite that.

Quote: Internet Explorer
you're doing more with your life right now than probably most other people around you. You're a valuable asset to the Smash community. So yeah, you should be proud.

quote: Greg
You do have a gift which I've seen many developers use to their advantage. You can become a great coder, and with all of those ideas I think you can really build something great.

I'm not going to comment on some of that stuff above. There's so much falsehood I nearly fell off my chair.

So, on my end I've gotta get HexEdit, and Sawndz (or however you spell it, heh). I'll get those two up by tomorrow, no sweat. :)
-Jack H.

IE fails in many places where FF and GC work fine. IE is the most crappy browser on the market IMO. Seriously, why use IE? It's crap. Same goes for Opera and Safari on windows.

And XP = 7 Equally, Vista sucked.

Don't bother replyin, this was just a rant XD

January 08, 2011, 02:58:14 PM #37 Last Edit: January 08, 2011, 03:01:00 PM by (specter)
As great of a site it is for hosting and downloading, Mediafire is not safe -- I've gotten a total of two high-risk viruses from the site so far, both times when I clicked on the thing to start downloading the hack. The latest virus in which I got just now was called "Malicious Toolkit Variant". Luckily my Norton got both, but still I don't think it's a safe site... I think we should aim for another downloading site.

January 08, 2011, 03:02:55 PM #38 Last Edit: January 08, 2011, 03:06:35 PM by picano
If you're getting virus warning on mediafire... something is already wrong on your end.

Though... a lot of old mediafire content is starting to vanish now. Might need a more permanent solution.


Quote from: picano on January 08, 2011, 03:02:55 PM
If you're getting virus warning on mediafire... something is already wrong on your end.

Though... a lot of old mediafire content is starting to vanish now. Might need a more permanent solution.

What could possibly be "wrong" for me?

January 08, 2011, 03:15:24 PM #40 Last Edit: January 08, 2011, 03:20:25 PM by Tcll
Quote from: Pride on January 08, 2011, 02:02:06 PM
IE fails in many places where FF and GC work fine. IE is the most crappy browser on the market IMO. Seriously, why use IE? It's crap. Same goes for Opera and Safari on windows.

And XP = 7 Equally, Vista sucked.

Don't bother replyin, this was just a rant XD

alright... I won't "say" anything ;)

but give me at least 10 fails...
because I only know of 2

although I like FF's DL manager
and I like Chrome's history page

Quote from: Jack H. on January 08, 2011, 08:27:14 AM
I'm not going to comment on some of that stuff above. There's so much falsehood I nearly fell off my chair.

So, on my end I've gotta get HexEdit, and Sawndz (or however you spell it, heh). I'll get those two up by tomorrow, no sweat. :)

you can't beat history, and knowledge ;)
at least I've used the other browsers... (except Safari) :/
so it's not like I don't know what I'm talking about...

and thanx btw... :)

Quote from: (specter) on January 08, 2011, 03:13:20 PM
Quote from: picano on January 08, 2011, 03:02:55 PM
If you're getting virus warning on mediafire... something is already wrong on your end.

Though... a lot of old mediafire content is starting to vanish now. Might need a more permanent solution.

What could possibly be "wrong" for me?

I don't get viruses from MF >_>
then again... I won't even if there is a virus...

note: no VPS (don't need it)

EDIT:
don't bother replying to that last one... XD
I'm just spoutin off info again :P

[spoiler]Quote: Friedslick6
you have been through a lot of hassle. I've watched every topic you posted on this, and most of them seemed to disintegrate gradually.
But the coolest part was that you didn't stop working on it despite that.

Quote: Internet Explorer
you're doing more with your life right now than probably most other people around you. You're a valuable asset to the Smash community. So yeah, you should be proud.

quote: Greg
You do have a gift which I've seen many developers use to their advantage. You can become a great coder, and with all of those ideas I think you can really build something great.

January 08, 2011, 03:27:48 PM #41 Last Edit: January 08, 2011, 03:30:24 PM by (specter)
Quote from: Tcll on January 08, 2011, 03:15:24 PM
I don't get viruses from MF >_>
then again... I won't even if there is a virus...

note: no VPS (don't need it)

EDIT:
don't bother replying to that last one... XD
I'm just spoutin off info again :P

I should remind you I've only gotten two viruses total since I started Brawl hacking November 13th, 2010 -- that implies that it's very uncommon, but I still got them, and my Norton blocked them. The virus was received the moment I clicked "Click here to start your download". Norton even says the virus was from just plain old "www.mediafire.com", and the virus before this one originated from somewhere else on Mediafire.

But anyway, why am I getting viruses from the site? How can it be only something for me and no one else? Is someone making a virus specifically for me and no one else? Because it makes no sense how only I am the one who can get them from the site.

Quote from: (specter) on January 08, 2011, 03:27:48 PM
Quote from: Tcll on January 08, 2011, 03:15:24 PM
I don't get viruses from MF >_>
then again... I won't even if there is a virus...

note: no VPS (don't need it)

EDIT:
don't bother replying to that last one... XD
I'm just spoutin off info again :P

I should remind you I've only gotten two viruses total since I started Brawl hacking November 13th, 2010 -- that implies that it's very uncommon, but I still got them, and my Norton blocked them. The virus was received the moment I clicked "Click here to start your download". Norton even says the virus was from just plain old "www.mediafire.com", and the virus before this one originated from somewhere else on Mediafire.

But anyway, why am I getting viruses from the site? How can it be only something for me and no one else? Is someone making a virus specifically for me and no one else? Because it makes no sense how only I am the one who can get them from the site.

hmm...
your Norton could be mistaking a cookie for a virus :/
it doesn't seem to be adware related...
^unless an ad pops up when you click DL

but still Norton said it was MF so that contredics the adware thing :/
I think it's a cookie being mistaken for a virus

[spoiler]Quote: Friedslick6
you have been through a lot of hassle. I've watched every topic you posted on this, and most of them seemed to disintegrate gradually.
But the coolest part was that you didn't stop working on it despite that.

Quote: Internet Explorer
you're doing more with your life right now than probably most other people around you. You're a valuable asset to the Smash community. So yeah, you should be proud.

quote: Greg
You do have a gift which I've seen many developers use to their advantage. You can become a great coder, and with all of those ideas I think you can really build something great.

Well, that's precisely why I say something is already wrong on your end.

It would be very unlikely to target a single user. I've had no trouble with mediafire, you are the only user here to report issues with it, and I don't see any major trend with google results for a mediafire specific virus.

My guess would be that you already have some virus on your system that is tampering with your browsing, either redirecting traffic through a shady proxy or modifying content based on a list of popular sites.

Though if you've got any suggestions I'm open to ideas.


Both times I got the virus I had an ad appear in a separate window Tcll.

Picano, so you're saying a virus got past my Norton? Because I always keep it on and it blocks like every single thing -- I don't think a virus could have gotten through.