Brawl Vault Problems, Updates, and Suggestions

[SonicBrawler]

http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=26903
>.> can someone remove this? He uploaded my project that accidently got leaked. I then said NOT to upload (its from smash boards) the guy incharge put me incharge and someone on my team leaked the files. its like, 1000% glitched. please remove

[Albafika]

http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=26903
>.> can someone remove this? He uploaded my project that accidently got leaked. I then said NOT to upload (its from smash boards) the guy incharge put me incharge and someone on my team leaked the files. its like, 1000% glitched. please remove

It poofed.

[SonicWolf]

It poofed.

lol best way to say gone.

[SonicBrawler]

It poofed.

lol thanks. :P

[Puraidou]

I put that it was credit to cutter kirby  :notimp: :>.>:

Yes but did you even ask him if you could upload it? Seeing you used HIS stage for a base :>.>palm:

yea i messaged him but he dint message back  r)

Then you can't upload it, simple as that.

http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=26891

Did he ask for your permission to use your stage as a base?

He sent me a PM apologizing, but didn't ask my permission to use it...Can you please remove it again?

I believe we need to keep an eye on him, seeing as he thinks that no answer = permission granted. r)

Currently waiting for a reply from Cutterkirby regarding this.

[Vyse]

I would like to quote for you guys the rules regarding submissions to the Vault.

Plagiarism will not be tolerated. Anyone found to be plagiarizing someone else's work will be banned indefinitely from submitting to Brawl Vault.
     o THIS INCLUDES MINOR EDITS TO OTHERS' WORK. If you copy what someone has written and superficially change a few words, it's still plagiarism; the same concept applies here. For example, creating a night/rain/snow version of someone's stage or changing a character's shirt from green to blue and releasing it on your own is plagiarism.

Certain board rules also apply to BV submissions and reports :
    Flaming
    Trolling
    Spamming
    Disruptive Behavior
    Offensive Material

These are the only grounds you have for deleting a hack. If someone asks to have a hack deleted because it's based on their work, you need to make sure it's actually plagiarized. Otherwise, just edit in a credit if needed.

To put it more plainly: Derivative works are not subject to deletion.

Once you put a hack out there, people have just as much of a right to mod it as they do to mod the original Brawl files.

I say this because it seems you guys are getting a bit overzealous in deleting stuff -- you're certainly being far harsher in enforcing your "copyright" than Nintendo is.

[CutterKirby64]

THIS INCLUDES MINOR EDITS TO OTHERS' WORK. If you copy what someone has written and superficially change a few words, it's still plagiarism;

I checked the files, he changed 3 textures and released it. That's basically this part of the rules, isn't it?

[Vyse]

I checked the files, he changed 3 textures and released it. That's basically this part of the rules, isn't it?

That depends on the scope of the changes. That's why I said the BV staff needs to look and make sure before deleting. Plagiarism is a pretty serious charge; they shouldn't be deleting stuff out of hand, based only on the claims of the plaintiff.

It's up to them to make the call. That's part of what they volunteered to do.

[CutterKirby64]

That depends on the scope of the changes. That's why I said the BV staff needs to look and make sure before deleting. Plagiarism is a pretty serious charge; they shouldn't be deleting stuff out of hand, based only on the claims of the plaintiff.

It's up to them to make the call. That's part of what they volunteered to do.

But that's not Pride's fault. I saw the stage and made a post here asking someone to remove it. After that, this guy uploaded the stage again and Pride sent me a PM about it, his job as a BV Staff member was great.  ;D

[Vyse]

But that's not Pride's fault. I saw the stage and made a post here asking someone to remove it. After that, this guy uploaded the stage again and Pride sent me a PM about it, his job as a BV Staff member was great.  ;D

You're missing the point pretty severely. In fact, saying that you told a BV staff to delete something and it promptly was deleted with no further investigation is directly counter to the point I am making.

I didn't say anything was anyone's "fault." I was gently reminding everyone of what is actually grounds for deletion, because people seem to be getting overenthusiastic about it. It wasn't directed at anyone in particular.

Did this guy get permission  http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=26916

Like this. Right here. This is a perfect example of what I'm talking about.

It's not a question of "permission." It is ridiculous to complain about "permission" when we've been editing Nintendo's work for years and are now, with model importing, taking the work of other companies, e.g. Capcom -- all without permission. And they actually have copyrights.

Lack of permission is not what you should be interested in and is not grounds for deletion.

[Hero ©]

http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=26915

This is already uploaded..

Original: http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=11470

[Victory Badguy]

http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=26915

This is already uploaded..

Original: http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=11470

Seeing as Vyse just posted at length about how BV staff members such as myself are too zealous in deleting stuff, wouldn't the more prudent action be for you to report the hack instead of posting about it here?  The report button is there for a reason.

[Vyse]

But that appears to actually be plagiarism, which does break the rules...

[Victory Badguy]

But that appears to actually be plagiarism, which does break the rules...

True, though it should still be reported just so the uploader has the chance to remove it.

Fine, I'll delete it.

Edit: Done.  It's gone.

[✿Zelia✿]

http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=26915

This is already uploaded..

Original: http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=11470

He uploaded it again?! Ok. I'm requesting this guy submitting privileges get removed now...

Because I deleted this one. http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=26847&Moderated=All&facebook=true

Also StarWaffle won't agree to this. http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=26913&Moderated=All&facebook=true
and he submits it anyways without permission and without any changes to it...