Clone Engine/Character Porting Q&A/FAQ Thread ***DO NOT REQUEST .RELS!!***

[IWasAPerson]

i thought that also. never tried it tho

also, we have the alloys over g&w code, and popo over iceclimbers, using no .rels...so y cant we do that for othe rcharacters?

The thing is, those codes don't make a character appear out of thin air. The alloys over g&w code takes g&w's existing slots and replaces them in the css with slots that are set up already for the alloys, warioman, and Giga Bowser. The Popo over Ice Climbers code is a workaround so that a .rel port character won't actually cause the game to crash, either due to some presets in psa or in the game (not quite sure which one yet). The ice climbers have specific solo slots, and .rels work perfectly over the solo slots (which is why I have the code). I actually tried to reroute Nana to MarioD's slot to try the ft_roy codes, but they won't work period. I talked to ds22 about it, there's no trick to it, they are merely example codes.

Considering how rocky the game works in single player with the ice climbers code, I really wish that almas' "Clone Engine" (Almas's, so it's not the real thing) worked with .rels and Riivolution...I'd be really happy since I could have a number of .rel ports over one character (granted, not fighting all at once) rather than running out of character slots...

[SonicBrawler]

oh. well that ruins my plan :( oh well. thanks for explaning it to me.

[xxmasal22xx]

Just read the Op.  It's gives her the ability to wall cling.  At any rate I have a theory.  I'm fairly certain almost any character can be ported over anyone as long as you change their article related attacks/animations so that they do something that doesn't use them.  Sorry if this is old news, but...  :>.>:

Wait, if thats true then i can EASILY port Lucario!!!!!.........Right?

[Eternal Yoshi]

To quote Jorgen Von Strangle,
"Not Exactly!"

Don't forget Aura Sphere and the other articles.

[Triforce Zelda (Deceased)]

If I wanted to port Peach over Wolf... or over Ike... or over Ice Climbers...

[xxmasal22xx]

And to quote you,

To quote Jorgen Von Strangle,
"Not Exactly!"

Don't forget Aura Sphere and the other articles.

What are all of lucario's articles? If i nullify OR give them all alternate moves without articles, then i will be able to port him, correct???

[Triforce Zelda (Deceased)]

You should...

[♤♡◇♧]

And to quote you,
What are all of lucario's articles? If i nullify OR give them all alternate moves without articles, then i will be able to port him, correct???

Doesn't work that way.

[Triforce Zelda (Deceased)]

If not then it's somethin to do with his bones or his wait animation gfx

[xxmasal22xx]

Doesn't work that way.

What do you mean, ds22? Could you explain more in-depth to me of how i would even make a partially successful attempt at this???

[♤♡◇♧]

You cannot expect that just nullifying things will make porting work.
Articles aren't the only things that are hard coded to refer to the module.

[IWasAPerson]

What do you mean, ds22? Could you explain more in-depth to me of how i would even make a partially successful attempt at this???

Best way to go about it is to ask yourself, "Can I make a glitch-free port over Marth or Ike?" If you can make a port over Marth of your Lucario PSA (fixing anything that's wrong with it, not just articles), then you can use it as a .rel port. Otherwise there's really not much you can do with it.

Viewtiful Joe was a coincidence that it worked so well with a Marth .rel, I should probably emphasize that. But if you can port a character flawlessly over Marth, you can .rel port him over anyone else. Or alternatively you could port him over Ike, it's been done before and it'd be a lot more compatible with other characters.

[SonicBrawler]

How did the V. Joe over Yoshi work? it is a Marth .rel...so how can c. falcon files work on it?

[xxmasal22xx]

Best way to go about it is to ask yourself, "Can I make a glitch-free port over Marth or Ike?" If you can make a port over Marth of your Lucario PSA (fixing anything that's wrong with it, not just articles), then you can use it as a .rel port. Otherwise there's really not much you can do with it.

Viewtiful Joe was a coincidence that it worked so well with a Marth .rel, I should probably emphasize that. But if you can port a character flawlessly over Marth, you can .rel port him over anyone else. Or alternatively you could port him over Ike, it's been done before and it'd be a lot more compatible with other characters.

Oh, alright. That makes more sence then. Guess im screwed then. Aww damn.....oh well....

[vondy56]

does anyone know has anyone had any luck with porting Link over another character with a working grab?( and i mean that he works exactly like he should not just being able to grab and can not throw) Or is there a rel for link out there somewhere?