Project Knuckles the Echidna

[SonicBrawler]

SO yeah, this is a vertex of Lucario, by the epic KTH, Bones added and Ported over Diddy Kong by me. We need a PSA person. Pics will come when we have the vertex complete. This is just a filler right now.

Preview of Vertex:

[KTH]

by the epic KTH

You preview to port a PSA or make a PSA?

[SonicBrawler]

^ lol

also, i dont understand. are you askign if I will make a PSA or port one? if to list ideas?

[KTH]

Are you preview to make a PSA complete or port a PSA (example Knuckles over Pikachu).

[SonicBrawler]

oh, im gunna have a new PSA.

[Zongalito]

Wow i'm very happy with the Vertex
well if this helps a bit... i will give my ideas for his PSA, but some attacks will come from Sonic battle
A- Right punch
AA- Knuckles chop (is like a uppercut but downwards)
AAA- Upper Cut
Air Neutral A- Meteor Punch (from sonic battle, like a uppercut but downwards and with two hands)
Side A- Double Punch (he punch with his two hands at the same time)
Smash Side A- Megaton Hook (froms sonic battle, he spins while he punch)
Air Side A- same as Side a
Up A- upper cut
Smash Up A- Enrage (from sonic battle, is like a upper cut but with two hands)
Air Up A- same as Up A
Down A- Punch in the ground
Smash Down A- The same but with more range of damage
Air Down A- He fall Spinning but the dont drill the floor (i forgot the name of the attack in SA2B, okay?)

Neutral B- Deep Impact (from sonic battle, but is like falcon punch)
Air B- Same
Side B- Launch Rocks (like Olimar Side B, but with rocks)
Side B Idea 2- Charizard's Side B
Air B- same and same
Down B-  Drill the ground and then going up and hit
Air Down B- Fall spinning to the ground and the rest is the same
Up B- Same as Pikachu down B, but with a giant rock and in font of him
Air up B- same
Final Smash- rain of Rocks, like Pit final smash but instead of soldier, will come Rocks, and every will give a 15% of damage

And also, for the ability of glide for knuckles, that could be by holding the jump button, like Peach or Silver...

[SonicBrawler]

no, because when Knux glides, he moves. he doesnt stay still.

[Zongalito]

well... Side air b- he glides, could be like Side b from pikachu but a bit modiffied

[SonicBrawler]

yeah, glide will be an attack

[Zongalito]

Yeah, that could be better, but anyway, i hope some of my ideas could help you

[dpgthirteen]

Why Pit and not Jiggly-Puff? Will Pit be easier or just a unanimous decision.

[nanobuds]

love the idea

[SonicBurstX]

AAA combo: Regular one, two punch which leads to a fury of punches like C.Falcons AAA combo.
F-Tilt: Double punch, or throwing out both fists at you
U-Tilt: Regular uppercut
Down Tilt: A 360 Degree sweep of the ground with his fist
F-Smash:  Dynamite His strongest smash attack and his strongest attack overall. With the power and knockback to challenge the Falcon Punch.  Add some good fire/exploding effects.
U-Smash: Double Uppercut, same as F-Tilt but it is aimed upwards
D-Smash: Eruption Punch, punches the ground to cause the ground to erupt, second strongest attack.
N-Air: Spin attack
F-Air: Double punch
B-Air: Same as C.Falcon's/Ganon's B-Air
D-Air: Both fists coming down on the opponent to cause a damaging spike, power as stong as Ganon's D-Air
N-Special: Throwing a Boulder just like in sonic battle
Air N-Special: Throwing down a mine/bomb like in sonic battle
F-Special: C.Falcon's Raptor boost (F-Special)
Air F-Special: Ganon's Air Foward Special where he grabs you and slams you down.
U-Special: Spins around in place with both fists out, sort of like mario tornado
Air U-Special: Same thing as U-Special but in a upwards motion
D-Special: Dig, got to have this, lol.  Digs underground and pops up damaging anyone in his way.  If possible, I would like it to where you can control where his pops up.  Sort of like Zelda's teleporting
Air D-Special: Same but in the air.  Shoots in a downward motion but this one spikes if someone is caught in the air with him
Pummel: Punching them in the face
F-Throw: Punch in the to launch anyone foward
B-Throw: Suplex or Sonic's back throw
U-Throw: Hard uppercut
D-Throw: Slams opponent

Should be able to glide

Final Smash: Super Knuckles, instead of gold, he is pinkish red lol.  With Possible, instead of just flying into people, like for him to to just have invisibility, increased damage in attacks and N-Special changed to him shooting fireballs like in Sonic Heroes.

Weight should be heavier than Sonic.
Power on Par with Ganon
Slow attacks, but actual movement is average (thinking mario)

[DoctorFlux(Mariodk)]

i have Knuckles planed in my Future plans and that one was going to be over jiggypuff and i will ofc try to add some kinda of Gliding(if not i making something like SMBZ mario´s up-B cape attack for up-B on knuckles so he getting Gliding+ a really good up-B)
reason why Knuckles over jiggypuff:
1. can´t be over Lucario with Kid buu moveset(DBZ fanboy )
2. Jiggypuff sucks but is one who is easy to port anything over (so many peach+Tails+mewtwo ported over Jiggypuff)
3. knuckles dont needing so many GFX models maybe just one so Jiggypuff is also good for that
4. Jiggypuff got .rel file to if you want to keep jiggypuff and get Knuckles without Miss Lucario too

if Pit dont got that many GFX model slots+good filesize+his Bow that can change Animation for get a normal/SSJ model in one for Goku port so i can do my method of SSJ mode/normal mode + oneslot SSJ1,2,3,4 for SSJ mode
 i will also say Knuckles over  Pit  but i dont think a knuckles need that good filesize + alot of GFX model slots and a Gilde you can get to almost work as over pit(almost)

[SonicBrawler]

Knuckjles is over pit because:
1) He can Glide
2) KTH said he dsnt like Pit
3) The bow can be replaced with Charizard's Rock