Error 500 (bandwidth issues), users moving to other forums

Started by toastoftriumph, October 14, 2011, 08:18:44 AM

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(Please read OP first) How much money would you be willing to donate if it virtually eliminated Error 500 messages?

None; I don't have a job/source of income.
38 (53.5%)
None; I don't mind users leaving kc-mm for another forum.
12 (16.9%)
None; (other)
5 (7%)
$1 - $10 (US Dollars)
7 (9.9%)
$10 - $30
4 (5.6%)
$30 - $75
0 (0%)
$75 - $150
0 (0%)
More than $150 because I'm crazy.
5 (7%)

Total Members Voted: 71

Never change KC:MM.

Complaining about not being able to contact Dantarion and not being able to fix the source of the problem, that's a valid. Throwing temporary solutions out the window with posts that contain you saying "that won't fix the problem", followed by quotes about pouring water on hot stone, that is NOT valid.

Cover the problem under some blankets until you can get it fixed properly.

Remove EVERYTHING not related to brawl hacking.
Put the family in an IRC/seperate forum (make on on proboards or something, a load of the popular family members don't even hack anymore).
DON'T remove guest access, they will sign up and look anyway (which will make it WORSE).

This will alleviate the issue for a short period of time, which you can use to contact Dantarion and do what you please.

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I await the rage and tears from the replies this gets.
Zephiel:
You know what I really like on my stack smash?
Texture updates.

Androu1:
@Zephiel: “your” Stack Smash?

That's the hillarious thing, that's what half of us have been saying throughout this topic.

VILE has my full support. Put the forum games or something on a seperate forum, although, I like the idea of removing guest access from certain areas as well, so that's one difference, such as the requests boards and such.

I wonder if the other admin would let me make a wager...

If we hide the forum for a bit and it doesn't make a significant difference... we ban everyone who has complained?


Quote from: ピカノ on October 15, 2011, 12:27:06 AM
I wonder if the other admin would let me make a wager...

If we hide the forum for a bit and it doesn't make a significant difference... we ban everyone who has complained?
Oh? So we're recurring to this? I'm not scared of losing my account in this Roleplaying Forum. Fine by me, go ahead, if it's not fixed by doing this, I'd just migrate to a real Hacking Forum free of these errors.

havent read all 5 pages.

about the forum games, here is my opinion, this is a BRAWL HACKING FORUM.

being a forum dedicated to something that specific, why should there even be off-topic?
i mean, if its off-topic, go to another forum where its on-topic... or do u really feel other users like neighbours or even REAL family???

im not gonna say nobody, but ALMOST nobody on here knows each other outside the internet, so whats the big deal about not talking with a brawl hacker about something that has nothing to do with brawl hacking... and if u rly know the user, than u dont have excuses either, since u can chat through msn, or go together to another forum, where ur off-topic discussion is on-topic...

my point baically is that if a forum is made for a specific TOPIC (brawl hacking) than why is there a section called OFF-TOPIC???

there are plenty of forums out there, which go about video gaming in general, or just hacking another game... WHY DISCUSS IT ON THIS FORUM???

i hope u ppl get my point and opinion, and please think about these words before replying, if u even plan to reply...

Doubt that this is gonna make even a lick of difference, Most Online Today: 344. Most Online Ever: 344.

As I'm typing, about 274 users and guests are online, and only about 10 members are in the Fourm Games section.

Quote from: ピカノ on October 15, 2011, 12:27:06 AM
I wonder if the other admin would let me make a wager...

If we hide the forum for a bit and it doesn't make a significant difference... we ban everyone who has complained?

Worst idea presented so far, not because I'd get banned because of it, but because a lot of other things could very wlel happen in a chain reaction. Star would be banned. No more Starwaffle hacks. Starwaffle owns LST. LST stops hosting their hacks on BrawlVault as a result. Brawlvault quality drops drastically. People begin to lose interest in this forum and demand unbannings, which will most likely go unheard.  The forum deteriorates into an exclusive Roleplay forum starring furries and furry porn, with maybe some stage and PSA hacks popping up. Good bye KCMM.

Or that's what I see happening. It's probably dramatized to a great extent, but remember this is the internet, so it's very well possible.

I actually agree with what's being presented in the Administration board right now thuogh. I suggest that people shut up and quit whining while said item is brought into effect, which will hopefully be soon since I know KCMM isn't very patient at all. Perhaps this idea should be shared with the public here so everyone can shut up and we don't need to deliver sanctions?

Edit: Quoting Miacis from the Administration Board. This is the best idea so far, as everyone wins. Roleplayers can keep their roleplays, hackers can come back and/or stay. The slight cost is just having an ad or two on the boards or Brawlvault.

Quote from: Miacis Ballard on October 14, 2011, 10:38:59 PM
They WANT the Forum Games gone. That's all they need for evidence.

Also, I looked for something : a measurement of our audience.

http://webdetail.org/www.kc-mm.com

Daily Pageviews: 2,805
=> Monthly pageviews : ~84 000.

Google Ad-sence Estimated Earnings:
1000 impressions/mth * 3% (average CTR) * $0.25 (average CPC)
=$7.5 (estmated)/mth

CTR determines how visible our ad is.
CPC how much each ad is worth. (We should be in the average-low, with video games.)

So with a single average ad put on the boards for a month, we would get ... $630.

Pardon my lenguage, but HOLY [censored].

We'd just have to hide it a little bit, and the server would pay itself in no time. .-.

October 15, 2011, 12:49:22 AM #67 Last Edit: October 15, 2011, 12:51:39 AM by ピカノ
I've already implemented 2 changes which has dropped the occurrence rate a little... and yet people are still whining and even upping the ante.

Even if we do the ad idea... we still have to 1) get Dantarion to upgrade the services and 2) Wait ~a month until we get our first paycheck. No instant fix is going to help too much.

I don't know how anyone still disbelieves me that the games forum is a drop in the bucket... With 100+ GUESTS, they easily overshadow the game forum goers...


People must still be stuck on the statistics graph, that's my thought. I'm shifting myself to neutral now. And even then, if people can wait a month (which they probably can't), we'll be in the clear. There is no "instant fix" psossible, you're right. I'm going to stand by this ad idea though, as an ad or two isn't that cumbersome.

I would just like to throw in some more perspective.

We have had

10,460

downloads since yesterday. That is ~7 downloads a minute. While that doesn't seem like much... to make that download happen... a Brawl Vault page had to be loaded. Each Brawl Vault page makes 3 connections: 1) user info, vault info, statistic info... ~24 connections a minutes. But, this is assuming that the person is only looking at 1 page per download.


Care to enlighten us on what was undergoing maintenance?
Look at my CSPs. While you're at it, come and help fix some broken hacks.. Don't stop! Check out LSTeam's cBliss recolor project.


October 15, 2011, 01:53:45 AM #71 Last Edit: October 15, 2011, 01:54:57 AM by the98pika
Did anyone else get this a few minutes ago?

Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.





EDIT: Ninja'd  :>.>:
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No. :D

But I'll say it anyway. Just went through and cleaned up all the database tables. (Essentially defragging)


Alrighty, time to see if it all paid off then.

...And then I got error 503 trying to post this XD
Look at my CSPs. While you're at it, come and help fix some broken hacks.. Don't stop! Check out LSTeam's cBliss recolor project.


I got a 503 try to come here. I also got the following errors upon posting this:
696
123
404
505
Internal 505
Internal 500
500
777
666
999
These were all one after another. Is this a bad sign?