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    « Reply #3570 on: March 04, 2014, 02:14:42 PM »


    PW made the bx_fighter module completely from scratch. idk if Dant has wrote a module from scratch, or just rebuilt existing ones. Dunno so i couldn't say. But yea, seperating characters from each other would be incredibly difficult, and really not worth it unless it was specifically for transforming characters sake
    porting transforming characters would not be hard actually! the only thing that need is giving both a ID thats new, but the slotconfig telling what is in that too! so making a module for Sheik only and a new module with Zelda Only seems actually plausable! I can be wrong however
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    « Reply #3571 on: March 04, 2014, 02:21:47 PM »


    Writing a module from scratch is really REALLY hard. Very few can do that. (Dantarion comes to mind)

    I never said it was easy. I have no doubt in my mind that it's going to be difficult.
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    « Reply #3572 on: March 04, 2014, 02:25:33 PM »


    -Open up the character in a BB that shows their MoveDef_FitXXXXX (The Xes being the character's name). Or open them in PSA. It's important to figure out which one they were made in since typically they'll only be able to save edits in the software they were made in. This can be the most frustrating part. BB .68B is reliable in this way.

    =Open folder "Sections" and then "Data" and lastly "Sub Action scripts". In here you'll find everything the character does. All of these fodler contain the pizaz for everything a character does, ranging from SFX, GFX, Main, and Other. But you'll be concerned with GFX.

    -Open up EVERY GFX folder and look inside for "External Graphic" (Everyone you see will potentially load a GFX from the ef_XXXX included in the pack (XXXX once again being the name) to find a list of things. The first thing you'll have selected should be Graphic, which has information pasted on the window to the right.  It should display the EFLS entry Index value (Or we could refer to them as IDs). The number there tells the action what GFX to load using an EFLs.

    -EFLs are in a tab in your ef_XXXX. Open that tab as well and count the white boxes starting from 0. Count all the way down until you count to the number that was displayed in the EFLs entry Index. Inside this window it should display a BRRES ID. It should also read "true" at the top. If it doesn't then this GFX doesn't matter (normally). Anyway, the BRRES ID is the number for the models further down. Each model has a number. THIS is what dictates what GFX is loaded  during a move.

    So to recap: Start with an action in the Subaction scripts>Go to GFX>If there is an external Graphic tab then open it>read the EFLSentryIndex value and memorize it (Let's say it's 9)> Go down to efls and count the white boxes inside starting from 0 to the number you just memorized (In this case 9)> From there you can see what mdl it's loading.

    What you do here is kind of up to you. You could import more models (Remember to set them to model data and give them a number that isn't already being used) and add EFLS  to the EFLS tab (remember to change these EFLS boxes to true and give them the BRRES ID that you gave the model). Then export the ef_XXXX portion of the .pac and import it to someone else's pack and change their GFX>External Graphics>EFLS entry Index to read the EFLS that is associated with the model that you imported. Smiley

    You could combine ef_XXXXXs this way, or you could take assist trophy or enemy's ef_XXXXXs and replace a character's ef_XXXXX and start adding their GFX in that one (Be sure to pick an assist trophy/enemy ef_XXXXX that has at least one example of what you're going to put inside of them, whether it be a Texture or a model. Also be sure to change the GFXFile ID in the Graphic window to the ID of the assist trophy. in BB68b, some of them have names. This makes it easy. Smiley In the case of PSA you'll need a cheat sheet. This is all of the IDS in Hex: http://opensa.dantarion.com/wiki/Effect.pac_IDs . When using BB68b, you'll ned to convert these IDs to normal, or decimal as it's called in a a calculator.). In doing so your character will load from an ef_file of a different name. If I have ef_Lin in my Broly.pac, then then he won't conflict with ganondorf, because ganondorf loads his GFXs from ef_Ganon.

    This is how you avoid GFX clashing.

    Final tips:

    MAKE SURE you import textures necessary for your GFX to show up. No textures means that they could show up as white boxes or eve invisible.

    MAKE SURE you don't exceed a file size limit. How can you tell if you did? Silent freeze during a match loading. How do you prevent this? Trial and error, but typically below 530 KB seems safe. If you're just over and want to go down, compress some textures, or remove unnecessary ones altogether. After doing this, test the character to make sure what you compressed/deleted wasn't important.

    NEVER just import an EFLS over an assist trophy and call is done. Importing that basically transforms it into the previous ef_file.

    MAKE SURE you copy the .pac you're working on. Certain BBs or PSA can corrupt the file and make you start over. You want to make sure you save progress.

    MAKE SURE to also check the "Other" and "Main" tabs to actions as well since they can also contain External Graphic tabs.

    MAKE SURE you also modify Terminate Graphics. GFXs need to end. Terminate Graphic tabs do just that. Make sure they know what to terminate. They are normally found in the same folder as the "External Graphic". Not every GFX has one though so don't go insane if you can't find it.

    MAKE SURE you also check the Articles in the "Data" folder (somewhere beneath the Subaction scripts folder). If a GFX STILL isn't fixed, you may need to fix it in there.

    MAKE SURE that when doing this in PSA you rememeber that IDs are in hexidecimal. For more on that, use a search engine to explain. It's easy, it's like adding 6 more numerals to the numeric alphabet (except they're letters... we just treat the mas number temporarily).

    PREPARE to get angry, confused, frustrated, warn out, maniacal, and insane, since there are plenty of things that could go wrong. The key is to be persistent.

    AND LASTLY test frequently. If you did at least ONE thing right it'll show up in a test. This means you're on the right track. EVERY character is different, and the process can e tedious. Little victories will keep you going and give you hope Smiley

    That's all I've got really, I'm not expert, I don't know too much else.

    Good luck!

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    BUT FOR NOW I recommend that after every match you back out of the CSS and then go back in to continue playing. This will reset the ef_files loaded. Since some of my characters were fixed by sharing them, they are prone to be unloaded when a character using one was deselected. It's an easy thing to do and should only add a whooping 3-4 seconds of time inbetween matches. Smiley Before you download you may want to hold off. I've just got done fixing quite a few bugs and will update the pack very soon. It'd be a shame for you to download for a while and then have to redownload for the fixes. I can PM you when I reupload so that you'll know when it's okay to download. Smiley


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    « Reply #3573 on: March 04, 2014, 02:27:56 PM »


    porting transforming characters would not be hard actually! the only thing that need is giving both a ID thats new, but the slotconfig telling what is in that too! so making a module for Sheik only and a new module with Zelda Only seems actually plausable! I can be wrong however
    Oh, how I hope you are right!
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    « Reply #3574 on: March 04, 2014, 02:51:12 PM »


    yeah i have ocarina on and it is a ntsc iso i dont know why but on dolphin everything works perfect
    if it works on dolphin but not on your wii do you have those gameconfigs and other misc files on the root of your sd card? becuase it seems your game isnt loading codes at all
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    « Reply #3575 on: March 04, 2014, 02:54:11 PM »


    porting transforming characters would not be hard actually! the only thing that need is giving both a ID thats new, but the slotconfig telling what is in that too! so making a module for Sheik only and a new module with Zelda Only seems actually plausable! I can be wrong however

    Would a Samus Module be plausible? If so we could finally have Dark Samus versus Samus Smiley i'd spend all night fixing thise GFX just for that.
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    « Reply #3576 on: March 04, 2014, 02:57:18 PM »


    @Nebulon/Dr Kirby:
    i would like to be able to use neb's pack, since my computer can't support the ModuleEditor3.exe or Brawlbox.exe and i therefore can't make my own brawlex hacks anyway, but i have a 4GB sd card and i cannot use gecko because of this Tongue i've looked for the sdhc code, but i can't find it anywhere online, i keep getting results like converting 2GB sd cards into 4GB at the most, and i read something about Dr Kirby trying another riivo launcher..?

    i'd like help someway to be able to actually play these hacks Tongue please? ^^;

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    Would a Samus Module be plausible? If so we could finally have Dark Samus versus Samus Smiley i'd spend all night fixing thise GFX just for that.

    dark samus over a samus module and ridley over a zerosuit module... lol, they'd fit beside eachother, as long as they don't transform x3 haha
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    « Reply #3577 on: March 04, 2014, 03:03:05 PM »


    yeah i have ocarina on and it is a ntsc iso i dont know why but on dolphin everything works perfect

    If you use USB Loader GX 3.0 you also can use the hook type OSSleepthread, just try it, works fine for me.
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    « Reply #3578 on: March 04, 2014, 03:04:58 PM »


    @Nebulon/Dr Kirby:
    i would like to be able to use neb's pack, since my computer can't support the ModuleEditor3.exe or Brawlbox.exe and i therefore can't make my own brawlex hacks anyway, but i have a 4GB sd card and i cannot use gecko because of this Tongue i've looked for the sdhc code, but i can't find it anywhere online, i keep getting results like converting 2GB sd cards into 4GB at the most, and i read something about Dr Kirby trying another riivo launcher..?

    i'd like help someway to be able to actually play these hacks Tongue please? ^^;

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    dark samus over a samus module and ridley over a zerosuit module... lol, they'd fit beside eachother, as long as they don't transform x3 haha
    Here's the SDHC code:
    SDHC Extension
    * C23CB3D8 00000004
    * 546302D7 41820014
    * 38600001 3C808058
    * 60840300 90640000
    * 2C1D0000 00000000
    * C23EEE18 00000007
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    * 41820028 38000009
    * 8061000C 5463C43E
    * 38630001 1CC30400
    * 3C60803E 6063EE58
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    * 80A1000C 00000000
    * C23CB620 00000007
    * 3D608058 616B0300
    * 816B0000 2C0B0000
    * 4182001C 39600001
    * 91610008 3D60803C
    * 616BB410 7D6903A6
    * 4E800420 9421FFC0
    * 60000000 00000000
    * C23CB4AC 00000003
    * 38C00000 2C160000
    * 41820008 38C00001
    * 60000000 00000000
    * C23CB5D4 00000009
    * 807C001C 2C030001
    * 806DCE1C 41820034
    * 80030000 90190000
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    * 80030008 90190008
    * 8003000C 9019000C
    * 3C60803C 6063B5E0
    * 7C6903A6 4E800420
    * 60000000 00000000
    * 043EEA20 48191905
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    * 06580324 00000028
    * 3F008058 63180300
    * 83180000 2C180000
    * 4182000C 7CB92B78
    * 48000008 7F2531D6
    * 548006FF 4E800020
    * 043EEB6C 481917E1
    * 043EED68 481915E5
    * 0658034C 00000028
    * 3C608058 60630300
    * 80630000 2C030000
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    * 48000008 7F39BA14
    * 4E800020 00000000
    * 043CBA24 481B48E1
    * 043CBD60 481B45A5
    * 06580304 00000020
    * 3EC08058 62D60300
    * 82D60000 2C160000
    * 41820008 7C802378
    * 7C040040 4E800020
    You need to use it and launch the game through the Project M Launcher.
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    « Reply #3579 on: March 04, 2014, 03:12:04 PM »


    guys has anyone got this to work on pm yet
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    « Reply #3580 on: March 04, 2014, 03:13:42 PM »


    Here's the SDHC code:
    SDHC Extension
    * C23CB3D8 00000004
    * 546302D7 41820014
    * 38600001 3C808058
    * 60840300 90640000
    * 2C1D0000 00000000
    * C23EEE18 00000007
    * 80610014 54630253
    * 41820028 38000009
    * 8061000C 5463C43E
    * 38630001 1CC30400
    * 3C60803E 6063EE58
    * 7C6903A6 4E800420
    * 80A1000C 00000000
    * C23CB620 00000007
    * 3D608058 616B0300
    * 816B0000 2C0B0000
    * 4182001C 39600001
    * 91610008 3D60803C
    * 616BB410 7D6903A6
    * 4E800420 9421FFC0
    * 60000000 00000000
    * C23CB4AC 00000003
    * 38C00000 2C160000
    * 41820008 38C00001
    * 60000000 00000000
    * C23CB5D4 00000009
    * 807C001C 2C030001
    * 806DCE1C 41820034
    * 80030000 90190000
    * 80030004 90190004
    * 80030008 90190008
    * 8003000C 9019000C
    * 3C60803C 6063B5E0
    * 7C6903A6 4E800420
    * 60000000 00000000
    * 043EEA20 48191905
    * 043EEC1C 48191709
    * 06580324 00000028
    * 3F008058 63180300
    * 83180000 2C180000
    * 4182000C 7CB92B78
    * 48000008 7F2531D6
    * 548006FF 4E800020
    * 043EEB6C 481917E1
    * 043EED68 481915E5
    * 0658034C 00000028
    * 3C608058 60630300
    * 80630000 2C030000
    * 4182000C 3B390001
    * 48000008 7F39BA14
    * 4E800020 00000000
    * 043CBA24 481B48E1
    * 043CBD60 481B45A5
    * 06580304 00000020
    * 3EC08058 62D60300
    * 82D60000 2C160000
    * 41820008 7C802378
    * 7C040040 4E800020
    You need to use it and launch the game through the Project M Launcher.

    Sorry, I'm dumb. But how do you use the launcher? I recently got an SDHC card that 8GB, and I really need to figure out how to use it.
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    « Reply #3581 on: March 04, 2014, 03:14:33 PM »


    guys has anyone got this to work on pm yet
    No. And Dantarion (who did a lot of work on PM) said it will probably never be compatible with it.

    Sorry, I'm dumb. But how do you use the launcher? I recently got an SDHC card that 8GB, and I really need to figure out how to use it.
    Just use it the exact same way you use Gecko.
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    « Reply #3582 on: March 04, 2014, 03:18:03 PM »


    also how do i run these hacks on an 8gb sdhc card
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    « Reply #3583 on: March 04, 2014, 03:21:51 PM »


    Again, sorry. But where do I put all the things included in the hackless launcher?
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    « Reply #3584 on: March 04, 2014, 03:23:39 PM »


    Again, sorry. But where do I put all the things included in the hackless launcher?
    You're using the hackless launcher? Sorry, but I'm pretty sure the SDHC Expansion will only work via Homebrew method. I might be wrong, though.
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