A Brawl With Original Characters Only

Started by Mr.Misfortune, July 24, 2014, 09:49:46 PM

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Whose Idea Do You Like Best?

Mr.Misfortune
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Windhunter7
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Meh
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What is this even?
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July 24, 2014, 09:49:46 PM Last Edit: August 15, 2014, 03:41:22 PM by Mr.Misfortune
Introducing..SUPER SMASH BROS BRAWL!...OC STYLE!

Team
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Mr. Misfortune
Windhunter7
LucinaSuitSamus
MEGAGEN50

PLOT!
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Characters
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Raptor(Made by KingOfChaos)
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Baphomet(Made by Mortimer)
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Mellow Valentine(Model by NascaCorp.  Concept by Mr.Misfortune)
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Lt. Pheonix(Made by ShadowLuigi-NG-)
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Shinda(Made by Bloody Canadian)
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Changes by MegaGEN50
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I've been thinking hard about it and...why don't we make a few global gamplay changes that freshen up the game, eh?

EDIT: Re-did a Perfect Shield Buff

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  • Re-purpose and nerf regular shields, but buff perfect shields.

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  • Add and Rework the L-cancel mechanic.

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  • DI Buff

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  • All Characters will have some type of Gimmick or Mechanic that differs them from other Characters

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Well, even though the Subspace Emissary has an interesting plot that actually was hinted at even in SSB64, I'm interested as to what your plot is. :)
(I was actually gonna make my own plot and make a sequel to TLOZ: Twilight Princess, myself ;D )
*If you're interested at all in it, I was soon(Within the next few weeks or so) going to start my custom games thread, in which case I would have it listed there, along with the other games I was gonna make.*

Well my overall plot was this. We could create some master entity, something like Tabuu, and have him summon people from all over the world to compete in this competition. The competition would of course be a tournament devised to see who out of the handful of people he brought would be the strongest. At first the people believe this is a golden opportunity, knowing that all they had to do was kick a few heads in and get a glorious prize, it was something anyone would kill for.

However, that's exactly it. Kill. Once the fighter loses, he doesn't just get up and go home, the Tabuu type has said person executed in secret. Once the fighters begin to catch on to what's happening. They realize they have to band together in order to defeat said man and escape their twisted fate(The Protagonists). Some however, knowing full well what would happen, have chosen to execute the players anyway, seeking the glorious prize for themselves(The Antagonists).

Now at this point, it's become a Protagonists vs. Antagonists battle. The Antagonists aren't exactly working for the Tabuu type character. They are solely looking out for themselves and doing whatever it is they need to do in order to survive this place and go home. They could care less about how they do it(Though I'm totally down with the idea of having a mole type character).

How it would be implemented into subspace would be easy. Having the protagonists take the places of the protagonists in brawl and the antagonists being made over the antagonists of brawl. Then we could Tabuu with a Tabuu of our own.

Anyway, that's my idea on how the OC brawl could work storyline wise. Of course each would have their own reason for being involved in the tournament in the first place. Also, they characters won't know it, but the grand prize is to take the place of the tabuu type character and let the others go free. Of course they won't find that out until the end. The prize is to be god of that world, ups and downs included.


This sounds like a great idea, though I'm still debating with myself whether I should help.  I'd love to, but I feel like I'm pressed for time this summer.

Would we replace EVERY character with a brand new one?  I mean that everyone only has ONE replacement character.  Or would it be like Tyshy's Super Smash Sisters, where a LOT of people have Peach rels?

July 25, 2014, 01:27:42 AM #4 Last Edit: July 25, 2014, 01:36:17 AM by windhunter7
Pretty good story-line; has a Brawl feel, being similar, but not exact to the original SSE story :)

Here's an interesting thing  you could add onto the plot, too: The bosses(Master Hand, Rayquazza, Ridley, etc.) are actually clones of Tabuu that had their shapes deformed when cloned, but they have the same evil lurking inside them, bent on taking over the universe; eventually, they will end up facing each other off, with you in the middle and Tabuu coming to your side after realizing that "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." So, you(All the SSB fighters) fight alongside Tabuu to defeat the clones who are battling against each other.(They are identical, so none of them can win, but whoever is in the middle can get hurt, and because they are clones, they aren't dynamic like the original Tabuu, so they won't be able to change, and will forever battle each other.)
Then, after you and Tabuu fight them, Tabuu secretly clones himself perfectly, but with a modification to the clones that allows them to know that they are not Tabuu; he secretly does this while sending his minions(Primids, Bytans, Towtows, etc.) to attack you(All the characters). When he is done cloning himself and you discover that he did so, he conveniently cloned himself the same number of times as there are characters, so that you can choose whomever to fight against a clone; then, after all the clones are defeated, you face Tabuu himself, but you(Player) are the only one he is not able to turn into trophies by his move where he does the purple rings that insta-ko you on hardest mode.
After Tabuu dies, everyone is returned, including Tabuu(But not his clones), and no recollection from anyone of what happened, so that you can have a legit reason to do the game over-and-over again.

Another idea that's related: The antagonists could come to the protagonists' aid, teaming up like in original SSE story.

Post Merge: July 25, 2014, 01:36:17 AM

OOH! It could also be programmed in Unity by a bunch of us that want to help, to make it simpler to make. :)
I made a poll here, actually, to ask people if we should make an SSBB for Unity:
http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=69741.0

Quote from: LucinaSuitSamus on July 25, 2014, 01:23:45 AM
This sounds like a great idea, though I'm still debating with myself whether I should help.  I'd love to, but I feel like I'm pressed for time this summer.

Would we replace EVERY character with a brand new one?  I mean that everyone only has ONE replacement character.  Or would it be like Tyshy's Super Smash Sisters, where a LOT of people have Peach rels?

I think we should replace EVERY character with a brand new one. I don't want to create something that has multiple rels of just one character. I want every single character to be unique in their own way and have something completely different about every single one of them.

http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=35649

This here is my OC(Made by NascaCorp) and he's known by Mellow Valentine(Link doesn't work in the description)

He's not a rel, he's something completely original you feel me? Also if I can, i'd like every contributor to put a character in. Everyone can have a part in it!

Quote from: windhunter7 on July 25, 2014, 01:27:42 AM
Pretty good story-line; has a Brawl feel, being similar, but not exact to the original SSE story :)

Here's an interesting thing  you could add onto the plot, too: The bosses(Master Hand, Rayquazza, Ridley, etc.) are actually clones of Tabuu that had their shapes deformed when cloned, but they have the same evil lurking inside them, bent on taking over the universe; eventually, they will end up facing each other off, with you in the middle and Tabuu coming to your side after realizing that "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." So, you(All the SSB fighters) fight alongside Tabuu to defeat the clones who are battling against each other.(They are identical, so none of them can win, but whoever is in the middle can get hurt, and because they are clones, they aren't dynamic like the original Tabuu, so they won't be able to change, and will forever battle each other.)
Then, after you and Tabuu fight them, Tabuu secretly clones himself perfectly, but with a modification to the clones that allows them to know that they are not Tabuu; he secretly does this while sending his minions(Primids, Bytans, Towtows, etc.) to attack you(All the characters). When he is done cloning himself and you discover that he did so, he conveniently cloned himself the same number of times as there are characters, so that you can choose whomever to fight against a clone; then, after all the clones are defeated, you face Tabuu himself, but you(Player) are the only one he is not able to turn into trophies by his move where he does the purple rings that insta-ko you on hardest mode.
After Tabuu dies, everyone is returned, including Tabuu(But not his clones), and no recollection from anyone of what happened, so that you can have a legit reason to do the game over-and-over again.

Another idea that's related: The antagonists could come to the protagonists' aid, teaming up like in original SSE story.

Post Merge: July 25, 2014, 01:36:17 AM

OOH! It could also be programmed in Unity by a bunch of us that want to help, to make it simpler to make. :)
I made a poll here, actually, to ask people if we should make an SSBB for Unity:
http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=69741.0

I dig that idea pretty hard, but let me put on a spin on it to throw it more towards the OC's direction. What if each one of those bosses had indeed been cloned by tabuu..BUT! The souls of said clones were placed into certain fighters at birth(Of course these fighters wouldn't know that it was the reason they were gathered here).

Matter of fact. We can take it a step further and say that EVERY character is an reincarnation of one of Nintendo's characters. Though that's just a thought. It doesn't have to swing that way if you don't want to.

I also like the whole Tabuu working with the main characters in order to take down the clones he's created, but I feel it should be taken in this way. In order to kind of introduce that mole-type character, we could have Tabuu destroy the reincarnations of the bosses in secret with said character. Tabuu and That character forming an alliance behinds everyone's back to get the job done.

After Tabuu and said character get the job done, he clones himself and stabs that character in the back, announcing to everyone what said character has done and that character is outted by the other fighters. He then gives that character the power to summon things like primids and other enemies to attack the fighters(making him the current main antagonist of the story and throwing Tabuu's track off for a bit).

After getting rid of that character. You find that Tabuu has secretly excecuted a number of fighters and replaced them with clones.(thus bringing the whole clone character thing in the mix. Also when you have to fight the shadow versions in SSE that could explain why they are there). So now you and the antagonists have to team up in order to defeat the remainder of the clones so you can get to Tabuu.

Tabuu realized that he is unable to turn the main protagonist into a trophy so he attempts to make him seem the bad guy and have the other characters execute him; but he convinces them otherwise and gets them back on his side before he has to take down Tabuu.

Once Tabuu is defeated, the main protagonist becomes Tabuu and the entire thing is reset. He then learns from Tabuu that this has been a chain of events that was repeated over and over again and hopes that in the next world he can finally put a stop to this twisted chain. It'll give the player a reason to play the game over and over again without rest.

How does that sound for an idea?

Quote from: Mr.Misfortune on July 25, 2014, 03:12:34 AM
I think we should replace EVERY character with a brand new one. I don't want to create something that has multiple rels of just one character. I want every single character to be unique in their own way and have something completely different about every single one of them.

http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=35649

This here is my OC(Made by NascaCorp) and he's known by Mellow Valentine(Link doesn't work in the description)

He's not a rel, he's something completely original you feel me? Also if I can, i'd like every contributor to put a character in. Everyone can have a part in it!

I dig that idea pretty hard, but let me put on a spin on it to throw it more towards the OC's direction. What if each one of those bosses had indeed been cloned by tabuu..BUT! The souls of said clones were placed into certain fighters at birth(Of course these fighters wouldn't know that it was the reason they were gathered here).

Matter of fact. We can take it a step further and say that EVERY character is an reincarnation of one of Nintendo's characters. Though that's just a thought. It doesn't have to swing that way if you don't want to.

I also like the whole Tabuu working with the main characters in order to take down the clones he's created, but I feel it should be taken in this way. In order to kind of introduce that mole-type character, we could have Tabuu destroy the reincarnations of the bosses in secret with said character. Tabuu and That character forming an alliance behinds everyone's back to get the job done.

After Tabuu and said character get the job done, he clones himself and stabs that character in the back, announcing to everyone what said character has done and that character is outted by the other fighters. He then gives that character the power to summon things like primids and other enemies to attack the fighters(making him the current main antagonist of the story and throwing Tabuu's track off for a bit).

After getting rid of that character. You find that Tabuu has secretly excecuted a number of fighters and replaced them with clones.(thus bringing the whole clone character thing in the mix. Also when you have to fight the shadow versions in SSE that could explain why they are there). So now you and the antagonists have to team up in order to defeat the remainder of the clones so you can get to Tabuu.

Tabuu realized that he is unable to turn the main protagonist into a trophy so he attempts to make him seem the bad guy and have the other characters execute him; but he convinces them otherwise and gets them back on his side before he has to take down Tabuu.

Once Tabuu is defeated, the main protagonist becomes Tabuu and the entire thing is reset. He then learns from Tabuu that this has been a chain of events that was repeated over and over again and hopes that in the next world he can finally put a stop to this twisted chain. It'll give the player a reason to play the game over and over again without rest.

How does that sound for an idea?

It sounds awesome :)

Definitely. So do you think they should all be reincarnations or just the bosses?

This is an amazing idea! There is some new research going on in herehttp://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=66985.0 that would really set this project off! I'd help with some SSE Level Designs, PSA, Stages, Boss Programming, and other stuff.

Holy COW! Not much of it makes sense but it's awesome to see that progress is being made! But hey, if everyone is down with this idea, we can make it something big.

Quote from: Mr.Misfortune on July 25, 2014, 04:33:07 AM
Definitely. So do you think they should all be reincarnations or just the bosses?

I might suggest creating a poll for that, seeing what other people think :D
But, if you ask me, both sound  cool. ;D


Quote from: Mr.Misfortune on July 25, 2014, 03:46:40 PM
How does one create a poll?

The same way you created the topic, only instead of "New Topic", click "New Poll"; it basically describes what each button does. They're good at explaining things. ;D

Alright I can do it in a bit. Though i'd like to hear a few others opinions before I go creating a poll. At the moment it's just four people who've been responding to this thread.

Quote from: Mr.Misfortune on July 25, 2014, 05:51:31 PM
Alright I can do it in a bit. Though i'd like to hear a few others opinions before I go creating a poll. At the moment it's just four people who've been responding to this thread.

With 104 views, and only us and two others participating, I have doubts that people are actually subscribed to notifications to this topic, so I would highly suggest creating a poll; here's what you could say for the poll:

In this topic( http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=69733 ), which ideas do you like best?

Windhunter7's
Mr. Misfortune's
I like both :)
Meh; don't really care :P
I didn't even know about that topic :o

Just sayin', but I'm not actually trying to compete with who has the better plot; I think we should combine our ideas instead; that's just for poll purposes, as polls should have shorter questions. :)