Vertex Hacking: Advanced Techniques

Started by mariokart64n, May 24, 2010, 04:23:54 PM

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yup what he said is the method of trial and error you would need to use to get that to work. I haven't covered it in any videos, cause its dodgy, just randomly moving verts till it works. I understand your frustration. but theres no solid fix, not unless kyral finishes brawlbox.
Luka Megurine by mariokart64n
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I've seen some people request a written guide recapitulating your latest video.

I've just made a French tutorial that recaps it, and also with some beginner advices to using 3DS MAX 8. I'll probably translate it in English now. Mind if I post it in a new topic (it's quite big ...), or would you prefer to include it in your OP ?  :)
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Quote from: Miacis Kusanagi on August 14, 2010, 02:04:22 PM
I've seen some people request a written guide recapitulating your latest video.

I've just made a French tutorial that recaps it, and also with some beginner advices to using 3DS MAX 8. I'll probably translate it in English now. Mind if I post it in a new topic (it's quite big ...), or would you prefer to include it in your OP ?  :)
make a new thread and mention it's french in the thread name. cuz if it's hidden in the spoilers of the first post of this thread, it's not really the place where I'd look first for a french tutorial :|

August 14, 2010, 06:21:37 PM #408 Last Edit: August 14, 2010, 06:23:35 PM by mariokart64n
yup, what he said, I can just link to it in my OP.
Luka Megurine by mariokart64n
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Uh ... there's been a misunderstanding. :P

The French tutorial, i've already posted it on French SSBB boards. I'm talking about the translation of it in English for this forum.  :P
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its up to you, what you want to do with it. But if you post it here, of course I'll update it to my OP.

by the way thanks for your time writing a tutorial on the subject. My writing skills are soo bad lol
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August 14, 2010, 07:29:34 PM #411 Last Edit: August 14, 2010, 07:41:40 PM by Segab
uh.. I'm vertexing Pokemon Trainer's body, it messed up, I "double patched", it messed up even more. I double patched 4 times and it became perfect for some reason.

So... if double patch doesn't fix stuff, double patch again twice?


edit: I edited his hace and it did the same thing. 4 patch = fixed.

lol what quad patch now
Luka Megurine by mariokart64n
[Character-ImportModel-Zelda]

I dunno if it's me doing something wrong, but the quad patch works for me so.. that's good :)

6 polygons edited on Pkmn trainer, all working after 4 patches, and I'm not done yet..

August 15, 2010, 03:15:52 AM #414 Last Edit: August 15, 2010, 06:49:35 AM by Apprentice Of Death
So you know the thing that makes the one side of the model screw up?
Well when I get that double patching doesn't fix it.

I patched it again about ten times and it didn't do anything. It kept switching sides that were messed up. And each side messed up differently.

I think it's what happened to Segab but quad patching doesn't fix it...

There you go for my tutorial :

http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=13061.msg209472#msg209472

A few remarks for MK64n (and others) :

- If you put your script in your OP, in an easy-to-reach spot (ie : Top/Bottom), I wouldn't have to post it in my tutorial, and a link would suffice. Right now, if I'd link to this thread I'd need to explain that it's "somewhere near the two-thirds of it, between a video and a cloud of red dots". Which is highly inconvenient.  :-\

- There are probably a few errors in it, or completely useless actions. Please tell if you see any.

- I'm giving some 3DS MAX tips, but if anyone here has more to give (again, not confusing modifications ... it's a tutorial for everyone), then don't hesitate to do so.
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August 15, 2010, 10:44:58 PM #416 Last Edit: August 15, 2010, 10:48:45 PM by SuperMarioFan546
Can anyone help me? I'm trying to install Collada, but it says it cant find 3DS Max 8. even though Im damn sure i have it.It also says that I can install the files manually, but Im not really sure how to do this either.

Quote from: SuperMarioFan546 on August 15, 2010, 10:44:58 PM
Can anyone help me? I'm trying to install Collada, but it says it cant find 3DS Max 8. even though Im damn sure i have it.It also says that I can install the files manually, but Im not really sure how to do this either.
install in C:\Program Files\Autodesk\3DS max 8\3dsMax8

@SuperMarioFan546
I recently made the switch from winXP 32-bit to win7 64-bit, when i tried to install 3dsmax8 with collada I got that same problem

what I did was used 7-zip(a free file de-compressor) and used that to unzip the contents of the install exe. it'll dump a bunch of folders, more noticeable the ones that are like plugin1, plugin2, plugin3.. etc etc.. you'll know which one is the right folder you need for 3dsmax8. cause its the only one with the extra DLL's included. the rest are just a single file.

of course dump those dll's in max's root and replace the plugin folder. re-open max and see what happens.

also again the process isn't limited to max8, I'm just pressing max8 cause it's what I'm using and what I can verifies works. if anyone can verify this method to work on a new max, let me know. I know I seem alot of people using max9
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August 16, 2010, 04:43:04 AM #419 Last Edit: August 16, 2010, 05:04:01 AM by SuperMarioFan546
Mariokart, Segab's reply didn't work, so im gonna give yours a shot.Pretty weird why it wont find it though,