Cloud Strife
Current Release:
V2.0a2 [fixed] - [download (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=3684&Moderated=All)]
Other Releases:
V2.0a2 - [download (http://www.mediafire.com/?gyykydjym3z)]
V2.0a - [download (http://www.mediafire.com/?nyn0mydnito)]
(http://i44.tinypic.com/18nhxx_th.jpg) (http://i44.tinypic.com/18nhxx.jpg) (http://i43.tinypic.com/22hk4_th.jpg) (http://i43.tinypic.com/22hk4.jpg) (http://i43.tinypic.com/sovdxw_th.jpg) (http://i43.tinypic.com/sovdxw.jpg)
Known Psa Glitches
-Glow in middle of sword during specials is Ike-sized sword
~ All Scenarios
Expect a re-released fixed file soon (V2.0a2) with the following fixes:
Fixed Psa Glitches
4 Player Clouds
Peach's Final
Hog Collision (Bridge of Eldin)
Stand-up glitch
.: Moveset Analysis :.
Cloud's Special's:
(B)Neutral-Special: Fire/Fira/Firaga (Chargeable attack)
(<-B->)Side-Special: ClimHazzard
(B^)Up-Special: Finishing Touch
(Bv)Down-Special: Beam Blade
Final: Omni-Slash
(B)[AIR] = Rising Fang
(<-B->)[AIR] = Braver
(B^)[AIR] = Finishing Touch
(Bv)[AIR] = Meteor Rain
I Found a Glitch!
Post about it in detail here on this thread so we can add it to the small handful of known glitches. We'll attempt to reproduce all known issues, and fix them for 2.0b.
- PAL or NTSC?
- Version of File Replacement Code? (if on Wii) / Dolphin version (if on emulator)
- Other characters playing?
- Length of fight / When the freeze happened
- etc.
Better hair If possible.
and the sword shouldn't change back to the normal one when you do the up B move.
Continuing on from the previous topic
I can't say about Lucario. As far as I see, I'm not having any problems with him at all. o_o
DK and ZSS are still a problem though. It might be a good idea to alter or get rid of the sword glow too, since the shape of Ike's sword appears in the middle of the sword whenever you swing. XD
Scratch that. Lucario still has minor problems. Oh well, at least the game won't freeze for those who go into SSE, Boss Battles, or play Classic and fight Master/Crazy Hand now. :3
The pcs and the pac should never be exactly the same size. If they are, something is wrong. That's what I've learned anyways.
Quote from: Wave Kusanagi on February 07, 2010, 04:58:32 AM
Continuing on from the previous topic
I can't say about Lucario. As far as I see, I'm not having any problems with him at all. o_o
DK and ZSS are still a problem though. It might be a good idea to alter or get rid of the sword glow too, since the shape of Ike's sword appears in the middle of the sword whenever you swing. XD
This is part of the PSA, which hasn't been attached yet. Just a good size of the animations have been added so far.
I just edited my post Jack, incase you haven't seen. :3 *points up*
i hope there is a way to fix the zss problem
but when i played with my friends they all use game cube and so do i
I could c-stick and they couldn't,but they could when no one was cloud
Anyone wanna test this out?: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GZQBAQMD
Quote from: SqLeon on February 07, 2010, 05:08:26 AM
Anyone wanna test this out?: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GZQBAQMD
What's this?
Quote from: OizenX on February 07, 2010, 05:12:39 AM
Quote from: Jack H. on February 07, 2010, 05:10:23 AM
Quote from: SqLeon on February 07, 2010, 05:08:26 AM
Anyone wanna test this out?: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GZQBAQMD
What's this?
Its a download link
and css and name strip. Just wondering if it looks cool to other ppls's.
I tried the redownload and the characters still slowed down. ZSS even caused the dreaded beep once loaded on the stage instead of just slowing down.
As far as critiquing (mind you this is really nitpicking), I recall part of his pant legs to be a tad poofier instead of all the same. And from certain angles his hair looks a bit odd. Then again from others its gorgeous.
Again this is being really persnickety, while playing you don't even notice. Just my two cents.
I love just fighting cloud ike with squall ike. No matter who wins I still get to here the ff7 fanfare :happy:
so i checked EVERYONE, and those are the only characters so far,
and thank you for replying to my PM Jack H. much appreciated :)
obviously you dont have to reply to the new one...
Quote from: masticatedmuffins on February 07, 2010, 05:14:50 AM
I tried the redownload and the characters still slowed down. ZSS even caused the dreaded beep once loaded on the stage instead of just slowing down. Odd how your lucario isn't messing up. Do you have any changes made? Mine just has textures.
As far as critiquing (mind you this is really nitpicking), I recall part of his pant legs to be a tad poofier instead of all the same. And from certain angles his hair looks a bit odd. Then again from others its gorgeous.
Again this is being really persnickety, whcle playing you don't even notice. Just my two cents.
I love just fighting cloud ike with squall ike. No matter who wins I still get to here the ff7 fanfare :happy:
...*points back to his post* I said I edited it, didn't I? Seriously. T_T;
It fixes the file size so the game won't freeze in certain modes. That and it gives you another outfit XD
um...what about my problem?
Your problem is your controllers or something else. I can use the c-stick on all 4 of my gamecube controllers in a match together. XD
yea but i can tooo when no ones cloud Mabey my wii just hates him XD
QuoteIt fixes the file size so the game won't freeze in certain modes. That and it gives you another outfit XD
mine still slows WAY DOWN with lucario, zero suit COMPLETELY BUGS OUT and donkey kong has a giant object that smears to the edge of the screen....
all three are unplayable against them... no freezing yet, it just feels like your playing a very horrible online match, and at times while playing against said chars the bottom of the screen where the percentage is displayed randomly dissapears...
i would say major flaws, but still awesome with everyone else :) its sad cause lucario is my second main :(
Sorry wave I see the edit now :>.>: <-- me taking a closer look... and trying to keep my eyes open, me so tired. Also I'm new to the whole forum involvement.. I've mostly just browsed and lurked. Way to bring me out of my shell Jack :P
I feel like I'm pestering, but as far as the PSA, I'm curious if cloud's standing animation is changed in the later builds to more represent his stance and less ike.
Thanks!
btw wave VERY NICE on the texture hack :) i have both on my wii now
on a totally different topic, who would you use to make Barret? Wario? Charizard? Snake?
Cid would actually be pretty awesome on snake :D
Do keep in mind that I said I PORTED the texture. wii actually made it awhile ago, not me. Don't give me too much credit or anything. XD;
Quote from: Wave Kusanagi on February 07, 2010, 05:45:49 AM
Do keep in mind that I said I PORTED the texture. wii actually made it awhile ago, not me. Don't give me too much credit or anything. XD;
Magical Power of copy paste?
lol my bad, but still, thanks for the download anyway :)
another off-topic note, if you truly love final fantasy 7, then you might enjoy this :)
[url]http://ocremix.org/album/1/final-fantasy-vii-voices-of-the-lifestream[url]
browse the site as well has a lot of great remixes :D
Suggestion : posting Wave Kusanagi's "almost-fixed" Cloud on the blog's entry. The one without the arranged texture.
I will edit it myself, if no one sees an objection.
Great work with cloud i must say. There's a few small details you missed in the model/texture i noticed, but i hope that those can be fixed in the v2.0
those are:
-Buster Sword without the 2 Materia Holes (can be added in texture)
-the 2 brown-belt-like stripes that are covers cloud's vest isn't present in the body,
-Mirrored Hair (a few retouches on it, but mainly, the hair it's just mirrored, XDD)
-The Metal wrist in the left arm isn't acurrate at all, same with the belt (in the FFVII/Dissidia version, he doesn't have those details in the belt)
-the belt itself needs to be more bigger
-Cloud isn't supposed to have a zip in his vest, just in the AC version.
-The best it's too dark in my opinion, a bit brighter and a bit more purple would be great.
-The eyes are awesome, but they can use a bit more of saturation/contrast to make the Mako-infusion more noticeable.
There's a HQ Cloud Renders for reference of what i am talking about:
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/4/49/Cloud_Dissidia_CG_render.jpg (http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/4/49/Cloud_Dissidia_CG_render.jpg)
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/3/36/Cloud_Dissidia_CG_render.png (http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/3/36/Cloud_Dissidia_CG_render.png)
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/8/8a/Dissidia_Cloud_ex.png (http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/8/8a/Dissidia_Cloud_ex.png)- In-game Cloud, less detailed, but i think it match better with the "Brawl" style of the game, :)
And those are all my notes. I am not trying to troll or anything like that, i am just giving you my suggestions for the next version...hope that you can take it in count :D
I agree with Dhragen. GREEEEEEEEAT Work but pay C-L-O-S-E attention to clouds design. Though we may be asking too much for what brawl box can do without any side effects. Anyway, you guys are legendary and thanks for good work! :)
Quote from: Miacis on February 07, 2010, 11:57:57 AM
Suggestion : posting Wave Kusanagi's "almost-fixed" Cloud on the blog's entry. The one without the arranged texture.
I will edit it myself, if no one sees an objection.
i m gonna post the fixed version at DDT but i wasnt planning on posting it on the main blog here. If Jack H wants to, he can edit it in the post just as an alt costume.
So...
I have a common5.pac with Cloud, 3 recolors of Cloud and Zack Fair, all with CSP's.
I also completely edited Ike's icon and name and portrait and everything, and now Ike is completely Cloud. (GrrrAnnouncervoice...)
I would post a DL, but the common5 also has all my other CSP's for other characters. If you can deal with that, then just ask for a DL.
Just export the Cloud stuff.
just give us the TGA portraits as well as all the other stuff, we can use that in CUPASH to use with our own chars.
btw thanks for the high quality renders drahngen :)
Quote from: CR4CK3RW0LF on February 07, 2010, 06:41:43 PM
btw thanks for the high quality renders drahngen :)
Yeah.
(http://i47.tinypic.com/2a65mp5.png)
This is great.
I made some things as well on page 1, dont know if anyone saw that, this is what it was:
(http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz15/SqLeon123555/MenSelchrFaceB.png)(http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz15/SqLeon123555/MenSelchrChrNmSIke.png)(http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz15/SqLeon123555/MenSelchrChrNmIke.png)(http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz15/SqLeon123555/MenSelchrChrFaceIke.png) All four are required. The locations are,
MenSelchrFaceB-->char_bust_tex_lz77-->MiscData[33]
MenSelchrChrNmIke-->MiscData[30]-->MenSelchrNm.331
MenSelchrChrFaceIke-->MiscData[70]-->MenSelchrChrFace.034
MenSelchrChrNmSIke-->MiscData[70]-->MenSelchrChrNmS.034
(The portrait I used was originally something else, but the above picture was better)
(Right click and press "save as" or "save image as" to dl.)
(If you use cupash(I think that's what it's called), rename the file to the last name, so MenSelchrChrNmIke would be MenSelchrNm.331.)
Quote from: Dhragen on February 07, 2010, 04:21:48 PM
-Buster Sword without the 2 Materia Holes (can be added in texture)
-the 2 brown-belt-like stripes that are covers cloud's vest isn't present in the body,
-Mirrored Hair (a few retouches on it, but mainly, the hair it's just mirrored, XDD)
-The Metal wrist in the left arm isn't acurrate at all, same with the belt (in the FFVII/Dissidia version, he doesn't have those details in the belt)
-the belt itself needs to be more bigger
-Cloud isn't supposed to have a zip in his vest, just in the AC version.
-The best it's too dark in my opinion, a bit brighter and a bit more purple would be great.
-The eyes are awesome, but they can use a bit more of saturation/contrast to make the Mako-infusion more noticeable.
1. I noticed of that will be adde
2. That can be done via texture, but I dont know how looks like, I ll try
3. I know, I tried to mirror the hair but, just I cant, the 3dsmax havent an option to mirrir vertex.
4. the belt will be bigger
5. Ill try for more brigtess, if looks strange Ill kep the original
6. The Zip will be removed.
7. I like the eyes ^^
bueno como pueden ver, tiene bastantes fallos, pero bueno, ustedes eran los que presionaban con que lo querian pronto, nos hicieron trabajar algo a la carrera
Oh, and please map the hair correctly. Right now the strands aren't really making any sense-- They need flow.
If anybody wants it, I made a logo or mark for cloud.
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s288/RainLink/cloudlogo.png)
Replace MenSelchrMark.15 from your info.pac so it will show up during battle and replace MenSelchrMark.15 from your common5.pac so it will show up in your character select screen.
Also, a CSB,
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s288/RainLink/cloud.png)
and finally this displays Cloud's name instead of Ike's during battle.
Replace MenSelcherChrNmS.331 in your info.pac located under MiscData [30]
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s288/RainLink/cloudinb.png)
I made a bunch of FF7 brstms to go along with this. You can find them in my topic (http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=62), but if someone feels like adding them to the first post here, I won't complain. >.>
Quote from: Jack H. on February 07, 2010, 04:51:08 AM
- Character Compatibility with Lucario, DK, and Zero Suit Samus
I believe that you could fix these incompatibilities re-adding Ike´s cape to the model and deleting it with the normal methods on the textures
Quote from: vcvmajinken on February 07, 2010, 10:07:13 PM
Quote from: Jack H. on February 07, 2010, 04:51:08 AM
- Character Compatibility with Lucario, DK, and Zero Suit Samus
I believe that you could fix these incompatibilities re-adding Ike´s cape to the model and deleting it with the normal methods on the textures
The texture was erased by transparency, it was not hexed off.
I fixed Ike bug with Licario DK and ZSS
si no me creen un video vale mas qeu 1000 imagenes (imaginen cuantas palabras valdra)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN0C9CinAtk
where is the download?
@Akari_Un please put up the download link
Nice work on the fix Akari... :3
But the way Shadow, you said the cape was removed through transparency right? I tried to add in textures for the cape before to try and start on "KH1 Cloud", but the cape wouldn't show up...
Meh, I probably just did something wrong. I'll keep trying.
Bueno lo subire en la noche, mas qeu nada pr que le quiero arreglar un par de cosillas mas
asi qeu sean un poco pacientes
ok sure thing, just a question though, does ZS work with him 2?
Quote from: Wave Kusanagi on February 07, 2010, 11:23:49 PM
Nice work on the fix Akari... :3
But the way Shadow, you said the cape was removed through transparency right? I tried to add in textures for the cape before to try and start on "KH1 Cloud", but the cape wouldn't show up...
Meh, I probably just did something wrong. I'll keep trying.
Shadow is wrong. I hexed off the cape along with his scarf. Akari morphed his chest so it would crawl up his neck more (since there was a slight hole before). Akari most likely re-added the cape, and removed it via simpler methods. Well found.
Quote@Akari_Un please put up the download link
I asked for it as well, however, just so we're all on the same page here, take a look at what else he's working on before v2 is released:
"Jack: Akari
Jack: Did you fix Cloud?
Akari: yep
Jack: Zephron said you fixed him.
Jack: Do you have a download link?
Jack: I want to change the blog download link and the forum download link.
Akari: I want to fix anothers things first (materia holes, hair, etc)
Jack: ok, awesome."
I see...Thank you Jack. That makes me feel less like a failure since I know I'm not doing anything wrong... ^^
Good luck on V2 if Cloud Akari. I hope you don't run into any troublesome predicaments... ^^
Quote from: Jack H. on February 07, 2010, 11:41:15 PM
Quote from: Wave Kusanagi on February 07, 2010, 11:23:49 PM
Nice work on the fix Akari... :3
But the way Shadow, you said the cape was removed through transparency right? I tried to add in textures for the cape before to try and start on "KH1 Cloud", but the cape wouldn't show up...
Meh, I probably just did something wrong. I'll keep trying.
Shadow is wrong. I hexed off the cape along with his scarf. Akari morphed his chest so it would crawl up his neck more (since there was a slight hole before). Akari most likely re-added the cape, and removed it via simpler methods. Well found.
Yeah, then why the SAKURAI!!!!!!!! was the texture made transparent? <_<
hmmm, i guess ill just wait till the 2nd version is released so i can then port my texture to that one. It be useless releasing it now if it glitches with the characters mentioned. Hopefully it will be up by tonight. =/
Also, Akari_Un, in that video, why aren't the percent damages, names etc showing?
will v2 have Ike's sword fixed?
I mean its caused be cause the model used for Aether is different from the one he holds.
Quote from: Shadow on February 07, 2010, 10:14:41 PM
Quote from: vcvmajinken on February 07, 2010, 10:07:13 PM
Quote from: Jack H. on February 07, 2010, 04:51:08 AM
- Character Compatibility with Lucario, DK, and Zero Suit Samus
I believe that you could fix these incompatibilities re-adding Ike´s cape to the model and deleting it with the normal methods on the textures
The texture was erased by transparency, it was not hexed off.
Sure? when he transforms in metal Im not see the cape :S
Quote from: Shadow on February 07, 2010, 11:56:33 PM
Also, Akari_Un, in that video, why aren't the percent damages, names etc showing?
Don't you know about the code to remove the HUD and name tags? That's what was used. I use them too. o.o
the cape is gone....<_<
the tails of his jacket show up.....
ugh read plox
can someone make a common5.pac with just Cloud 100% in it, just with Shadowlink99's stuff. That's all. I run a mac and I just want Cloud to be complete in it. If that's too hard, nobody has to.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1SNRE4RF
Here the Fixed Cloud Strife (DK, Lucario, ZSS)
the only problem i see with cloud is that his mohawk mess up hair whatever thingy magigy is too static it is supposed to slowly rise up to it like this:
(http://www.jlcideas.com/Image/FF7-adv-CloudStrife.jpg)
and since you made him wear his ff7ac costume you might as well give him tsurugi that was just extra i felt like saying don't take it seriously.
(http://www.finalfantasycosplay.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Cloud_strife_full_by_Wen_JR.jpg) cloud from the side.
and too sign off i would like to say that No cloud or squall shall hinder me from downloading v2
It's not his AC costume.
http://www.mediafire.com/?qiymznm2qmm
all of clouds files on common5.pac
@smashmaniac
You fail. They used his FF7 outfit, not his AC. -_-
Wii's Cloud is AC, and he's going to put up a revised version of it tomorrow. You didn't read the Q&A in the first thread, did you? >_>
Quote from: Akari_Un on February 08, 2010, 01:16:44 AM
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1SNRE4RF
Here the Fixed Cloud Strife (DK, Lucario, ZSS)
thank you! now im finally done. :)
Thanks for fixing those wierd glitches with cloud akari. :kdance:
lol smashmaniac2008 failed somewhat. this is a true cloud strife.
http://www.waynesanime.com/images/Toys/Final%20Fantasy%20Dissidia%20Cloud%20Strife%20%28FFVII%29%20Trading%20Arts%20Figure.jpg
But it doesnt matter. These guys did SOOOOOOOOOOOO good for making a cloud out of Ike. You guys deserve much more appreciation than what your getting. I thank you guys for working so hard for so long on something so good!
So much for doing KH Cloud... T_T
I'm guessing you guys also hexed out the part of his cape that goes around his neck, because it doesn't show up even with the texture there. I just got the cape in there too, and while previewing it, it just stops at his shoulders and leaves empty space.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/KHCloudFail.png
The KH outfit is my favorite one too... DX
Oh well. Such is life.
@Wave Kusanagi
I have come to your rescue good sir!...I'm quite good at hex-editing..and hexed it back in for you. Here it is......I ported Ike's original texture over it..so I have a sort of Cloud as Ike thing going on here...but I plan on probably reinserting other parts of Ike's model to make it completely fixed up..or I plan on disappearing again! Lols.
http://www.mediafire.com/?3edn4zmlxow
Dchen, I love you. No homo...F*SCREECH* it, homo. XD
Once again I've gotten your help to make something awesome. Thanks! I may make Crisis Core Cloud too. :3
Haha. No problem...I'm here to help. Contact me if you need anything else. PM me if you'd like my AIM/MSN.. Lol
Quote from: Wave Kusanagi on February 08, 2010, 05:09:30 AM
So much for doing KH Cloud... T_T
I'm guessing you guys also hexed out the part of his cape that goes around his neck, because it doesn't show up even with the texture there. I just got the cape in there too, and while previewing it, it just stops at his shoulders and leaves empty space.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/KHCloudFail.png
The KH outfit is my favorite one too... DX
Oh well. Such is life.
cool. cant wait to see KH cloud. :) now there will be ff7 cloud, AC, and KH, and that Zack texture catgowoof made. We need more edited models, even if they dont have textures.
We also have Cloud as Ike. XD
And for the heck of it, I ported ESH's Young Ganon onto him too. It actually looks pretty cool. :3
Going on with the random re-creations (which I love, no frowning on those here), Stack Smash worked up a spin-off also. Here's an image.
(http://stacksmash.kontek.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Zack6.jpg)
Catgowoof already had it posted in her thread though XD
But here's some previews for you guys :3
Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.
There we go :3
nice texture for KH cloud
All these textures are looking quite epic already. ^_^
Good to see you guys being so productive. I like these kind of euphoric periods when everybody participates.
Certainly the best way to see how interesting the community is. :)
KH cloud looks awesome! Now im the only one left to show mine. =/ BTW does anyone know where the texture between his chest and neck is located? i couldnt find it anywhere.
Wow amazing!
I just havn't been on here for the last week-end and ... just wow.
Cloud is the smex. So awesome. I'm breathtaken.
So I wonder if someone would start to make an easy vertex hack for Peach.
Like making her the short hair Shadow Queen Peach has and the collar.
And spiky earrings. Aye that'd be a dream *~*
Btw @ Wii, nice Avatar^^ Is that Neytiri from uh... Avatar?
Looks familar ;)
I thought it was that chick from X-men evolution
Yes it's Mystique.
Very cool textures Wave! Can't wait to see that finished!
Btw, I don't have my wii so I haven't tryed, is he playable for PAL or does he need to be ported?
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/thumb/3/36/Cloud_Dissidia_CG_render.png/434px-Cloud_Dissidia_CG_render.png)
still doesn't look static.
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/thumb/4/49/Cloud_Dissidia_CG_render.jpg/414px-Cloud_Dissidia_CG_render.jpg)
again just another random side view.
EDIT: and agin i am not complaining i am just saying.
My avatar is Mystique @person who asked.
And looking at the pictures, i see a couple of things that could be improved on ff7 cloud, mostly the shoulder and back. The straps could easily be added. Any pictures of AC cloud's back? i didnt add the straps because the front mirrors and the straps go diagonally. Not sure how they go on his back.
Awesome that the fix the ZSS, DK, and Lucario came so quick.
Also, is there a guide somewhere on how to hex things off and do vertex editing? As of now, it has to be done in a program like 3ds max? I'm guessing Maya could work too, right? After googling a bit I found I just get the .mdl0 file from the .brres, then I can edit it?
For whoever asked, since this is just an model edit and outfit, it should work for PAL too. It's the moveset that'll need changing because the sounds are in a different place in PAL Brawl.
Speaking of which, how for along has the moveset come now? Will we be seeing a release of it soon? Because I was planning on trying to see if I could try and change all the sounds to work for PAL in it. Though Shadow said she would try to as well and she's officially on the project team so...Maybe I won't need to. o.o'
...And now that I think about it, where would I find a PAL FitIke.pac at? -.o'
Quote from: Wave Kusanagi on February 08, 2010, 05:55:31 PM
...And now that I think about it, where would I find a PAL FitIke.pac at? -.o'
From me.
*owns both NTSC and PAL .iso*
Ah! Great to hear then! I guess I'll just wait until the moveset it out then. Thanks a lot Shadow. :3
...Could I then maybe get a PAL GreenHill.pac? :B
But anyway, nice to see that actually somebody cares for properly working PAL movesets on a project like this. It almost makes up for being totally neglected on movesets like Onslaught Falcon or Hyper Sonic and pretty much every stage hack.
Quote from: Calamitas on February 08, 2010, 06:57:00 PM
...Could I then maybe get a PAL GreenHill.pac? :B
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ytlqlijhgnu
Quote from: Calamitas on February 08, 2010, 06:57:00 PM
...Could I then maybe get a PAL GreenHill.pac? :B
But anyway, nice to see that actually somebody cares for properly working PAL movesets on a project like this. It almost makes up for being totally neglected on movesets like Onslaught Falcon or Hyper Sonic and pretty much every stage hack.
Well excuse me then. I only just recently found out the difference between the two thank you very much. -_-
Plus it doesn't help that I really just made those two to give myself something harder to fight against or more fun to play with. I just thought other people might like to use them too. I want to help out for Cloud since everyone likes it, but if you want those two for PAL, you'll have to do it yourself. I'm not going to spend what would take a couple of weeks to try and figure which sounds in PAL are what and then add them accordingly since the sounds for those two aren't the same as their original counterparts.
Damn.
Hey, I was just randomly picking two examples that came to my mind, no need to feel offended, OK? I even forgot that you were the one making them...
Quote from: Shadow on February 08, 2010, 07:57:25 PM
Quote from: Calamitas on February 08, 2010, 06:57:00 PM
...Could I then maybe get a PAL GreenHill.pac? :B
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ytlqlijhgnu
kthx! :)
Quote from: Wave Kusanagi on February 08, 2010, 05:55:31 PM
For whoever asked, since this is just an model edit and outfit, it should work for PAL too. It's the moveset that'll need changing because the sounds are in a different place in PAL Brawl.
Speaking of which, how for along has the moveset come now? Will we be seeing a release of it soon? Because I was planning on trying to see if I could try and change all the sounds to work for PAL in it. Though Shadow said she would try to as well and she's officially on the project team so...Maybe I won't need to. o.o'
...And now that I think about it, where would I find a PAL FitIke.pac at? -.o'
I'm coordinating with Canon and Shukaku this afternoon so I can get an accurate (and extremely detailed) list (with images) that shows and explains each individual move/animation that Cloud will have. We'll open it up for discussion within this thread after it's posted.
Hope that his moveset is going to be based on his moveset in dissidia final fantasy and in his others Limit Breaks. And i Predict Omnislash as the FS [/CaptainObvious].
Also, It's Cross-Slash in his Special moves?? :3
Quote from: Dhragen on February 08, 2010, 09:07:30 PM
Hope that his moveset is going to be based on his moveset in dissidia final fantasy and in his others Limit Breaks. And i Predict Omnislash as the FS [/CaptainObvious].
Also, It's Cross-Slash in his Special moves?? :3
Yes, as I recall, it's evolving into his DownB move.
QuoteYes, as I recall, it's evolving into his DownB move.
So we keep what we had said during the MSN conversation ? :3
Quote from: Miacis on February 08, 2010, 09:39:53 PM
QuoteYes, as I recall, it's evolving into his DownB move.
So we keep what we had said during the MSN conversation ? :3
Like I said, I'll speak with Canon and get a massive, massive list on the first post regarding his moveset, etc.
@Wii
Here is a picture for you, I hope this helps
(http://cdn1.ioffer.com/img/item/801/353/36/xN8WTOctHcCK8Yy.jpg)
Btw will you make his sword like in AC?
aww well, its too late now. I already took the snapshots and stuff. but i guess the straps wouldnt fit the texture correctly anyway. I'll upload the texture to DDT when i get to college, which is in about 2 hours.
And I am done with KH Cloud! :3
I'll post it up with some pics in a few minutes.
Quote from: Wave Kusanagi on February 08, 2010, 10:29:12 PM
And I am done with KH Cloud! :3
I'll post it up with some pics in a few minutes.
w00t.
Okay, this honestly isn't much. It's Cloud with a red cape, bandaged Buster Sword and the gold claws on his hands. I wanted to add in the belts at the bottom of his pants' legs but I couldn't figure out where the texture wold be cause of the new model. The point of a texture is to look good from a distance though, and this does just that...Though I think it looks okay close up too :3
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Enjoy you guys. :3
http://www.mediafire.com/?oxddjejorgn
cool :D. ill download when i get back cus im gonna be late ._. i was suppose to leave 5 min ago.
Quote from: Wave Kusanagi on February 08, 2010, 10:52:12 PM
Okay, this honestly isn't much. It's Cloud with a red cape, bandaged Buster Sword and the gold claws on his hands. I wanted to add in the belts at the bottom of his pants' legs but I couldn't figure out where the texture wold be cause of the new model. The point of a texture is to look good from a distance though, and this does just that...Though I think it looks okay close up too :3
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Enjoy you guys. :3
http://www.mediafire.com/?oxddjejorgn
is it possible to use both this texture and the original texture, because they both have pcs's, or not?
do we just add numbers to the end of the pcss also? (ie fitike00.pcs)
Well yeah, it works just like normal outfits. o_o
k thanks, sorry for being so n00b :D
@Wave:
Does this include the fix for ZSS, lucario, and DK?
If so I'm using this!
Of course! I'd like to beat up on everyone without bugs and glitches too ya know. XD
It's safe, so go right ahead and use it! :3
YAY, that fits well for a red costume, if only someone were to make a full costume replacement *hint, Hint* :af:
guys i just found a problem.
When you grab a metal box as cloud he turns metal but his cape comes back but dissapears after the metal wears off. Anyway to fix it?
i'll get the pics later
That's normal. That happens when you're using an outfit that has the cape missing using transparency. It's not a problem at all, okay? :3
Also guys? Would there be any possible way to use Emerald textures on Cloud? O_o I'm just curious because I want to make a crystallized version of him using it, though I've never edited an Emerald texture before. o.o
Quote from: Wave Kusanagi on February 09, 2010, 02:45:02 AM
That's normal. That happens when you're using an outfit that has the cape missing using transparency. It's not a problem at all, okay? :3
Also guys? Would there be any possible way to use Emerald textures on Cloud? O_o I'm just curious because I want to make a crystallized version of him using it, though I've never edited an Emerald texture before. o.o
I don't see how it's not. Replace the model in the FitIkeDark file, and that's it.
Quote from: Wave Kusanagi on February 09, 2010, 02:45:02 AM
Also guys? Would there be any possible way to use Emerald textures on Cloud? O_o I'm just curious because I want to make a crystallized version of him using it, though I've never edited an Emerald texture before. o.o
I'm guessing the Manikin from Dissidia? If so, awesome.
Quote from: Vyse on February 09, 2010, 03:08:53 AM
Quote from: Wave Kusanagi on February 09, 2010, 02:45:02 AM
Also guys? Would there be any possible way to use Emerald textures on Cloud? O_o I'm just curious because I want to make a crystallized version of him using it, though I've never edited an Emerald texture before. o.o
I'm guessing the Manikin from Dissidia? If so, awesome.
You guessed it right. It'd look perfect if we could use the emerald textures with the Cloud model. Though if not, we could just recolor Cloud into a monotone of light blue with red eyes as a backup, like I already have...But that would be so bland and boring. -_-;;
So, any ideas? o.o
As Shadow said, it shouldn't be an issue. Just export the model from the pac you have now and import it into FitIkeDark.pac.
Weird...the text from my last post isn't showing. O_o
Anyway, I just gave that a try...I got Cloud looking completely normal. o_o' I'm pretty sure that the normal model won't load the textures of the "Dark" models, even if they're already there. T_T
Quote from: Wave Kusanagi on February 09, 2010, 03:46:39 AM
Weird...the text from my last post isn't showing. O_o
It's inside the quote.
Thanks, fixed it...that was weird. x.x
But yeah, I still can't get the emerald textures to work...I'm pretty sure this sin't gonna work out the way I want. x_x
so i placed the file in as fitike01.pac and fitike01.pcs but they dont appear when i select the right costume....any idea why?
Quote from: PhRzN on February 09, 2010, 04:25:20 AM
so i placed the file in as fitike01.pac and fitike01.pcs but they dont appear when i select the right costume....any idea why?
its FitIke01.pac
i think you have to capitalize the F and the I
ok ill try that....
on a separate note, i was trying to get the alternate file loader working that was on smashboards so that i could use both cloud and ike, but my wii freezes at the gecko when trying to load the codes. i noticed that wave kusanagi had posted on the thread....did you ever get the code to work wave?
Ah, that annoying code? Yeah, I got it to work...in vBrawl. >_> The second I tried to activate the snapshot codes, the alt file code deactivated. Thus I can't play Brawl+ with it on.
At any rate, the emerald textures wouldn't work so I made do with what I could do. It may not be impressive, but I think it looks alright. If you don't like it, you can edit it or make a better one. Go for it. XD
And trust me, it looks much better ingame.
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Quote from: PhRzN on February 09, 2010, 04:25:20 AM
so i placed the file in as fitike01.pac and fitike01.pcs but they dont appear when i select the right costume....any idea why?
its FitIke01.pac
i think you have to capitalize the F and the I
no the case of the letters doesn't matter.
I got it to work as FiTiKe00.pac
i always thought it mattered, but i guess not. =/
someone should make all the cloud textures lvl 9 cpus and make them fight each other and put it up on youtube.
ESH was working on a pretty sweet looking Sephiroth texture around the same time the cloud project was well under way. It's a shame they're notorious for starting, teasing, and then quitting. No offense, but if you tally up the last 25 updates, it's sadly extremely true.
(http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/138/spoiler11.png)
wow, that looks great. hopeofully someday it will see the light of day.
Yeah, Z was working on it, but then he decided to do other stuff. He has a thing for ranting about hating everything that's either KH or FF. XD
Oh well. Hopefully someone else will finish it. Sephiroth is probably the only thing that would make me get rid of Roy. XD
i would be satisfied with Kadaj from AC.
Thinking about it, Kadaj would be easier looks wise, but then there's that double bladed katana...Yeah. XD;
Quote from: Jack H. on February 09, 2010, 06:32:16 AM
ESH was working on a pretty sweet looking Sephiroth texture around the same time the cloud project was well under way. It's a shame they're notorious for starting, teasing, and then quitting. No offense, but if you tally up the last 25 updates, it's sadly extremely true.
(http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/138/spoiler11.png)
Oooh, that's my Sephiroth texture :p.
Also Wave, could ya show me where the other Zack texture is? I wanna give it a looksee.
Sure, it's on the page before this one XD
http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=5565.msg52320#msg52320
There :3
(http://i45.tinypic.com/2s6uiz9.png)
(http://i45.tinypic.com/e1261e.png)
Quote from: Wave Kusanagi on February 09, 2010, 06:41:51 AM
Sure, it's on the page before this one XD
http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=5565.msg52320#msg52320
There :3
I don't want the file, I just want to see some pics of his one.
*facepalm* ...The pictures are there. That's not a download link, it takes you to the post. XD;
And he didn't make a Zack. I merged his Dissidia Cloud with your Zack.
Some days out and the Cloud Hack is already complete, with Fixes, Alt Costumes and more O.o.
You guys are something else. Anyway I may post that youtube video somebody was asking with the Cloud Textures.
Just let me find a good camera, for good quality :P
On top of all the textures coming out would there be a sword pack with his different weapons by any chance?
It would be awesome if ESH finished Sephiroth. Put a Marth hack on equal grounds with an Ike hack.
Quote from: dingoberriz on February 09, 2010, 03:04:48 PM
On top of all the textures coming out would there be a sword pack with his different weapons by any chance?
It would be awesome if ESH finished Sephiroth. Put a Marth hack on equal grounds with an Ike hack.
Agreed.
I made a Zack Fair and A Cloud FF7 ingame texture if anyone wants them, just post.
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We already have both FF7 and Zack. The original texture for Cloud IS FF7, and we've got two Zacks now. o_o
my zack has chest straps = win
plus my cloud is supposed to represent the in game model, not the artwork.... :af2:
Quote from: Wave Kusanagi on February 09, 2010, 05:51:37 PM
The original texture for Cloud IS FF7.
Mmhhhh ... well, with a nice part of Dissidia, in it. :-/
Quote from: Uncle0wnage on February 09, 2010, 05:59:20 PM
my zack has chest straps = win
plus my cloud is supposed to represent the in game model, not the artwork.... :af2:
...You say that like there's a difference. Fail logic. -.o
@Miacis
Really? o.o It seems like some things were a little too off to be Dissidia, like colors and extra details Square added for god knows what reason. Sorry though, didn't mean to offend. o_o'
wave.... you took other people's altered textures and threw them together, my zack has a bunch changed compared to catgoowoof's....darker sword, retextured cyborg arm, straps, mako eyes, highlighted hair, glove tone, retextured shirt, recolored cloths, less tan skin tone, facial shading.
And the original texture was nowhere close to ff7 ingame, just concept art with quite a bit of dissidia like miacis said.
People should be able to pick which one they wan t anyway... :>.>palm:
i am SO CLOSE to creating midgar its not even funny... its on the tip of my tounge...
there are two methods i tried and both have failed for me...
both methods are using New Pork City with all of the polygons for the platforms removed...
1. i tried importing the model and collision data from the online waiting stage, didnt work.. but then again im not good at it, if someone wants a whack at it be my guest :)
2. i tried scooting the model up a bit so that it looks like your playing on the very bottom of the background,
which wouldve been cool as [censored] if it worked, it does it in brawlbox, but when i export it it compresses twice...
i open it back up in brawlbox and it didnt change back, however when i use it in game, it reverts back to X0,Y0,Z0. any pointers?
ill try and post the file on my media fire if anyone wants to help...
where was it I saw someone combine a ganondorf texture with cloud's? I remember it being mighty cool and would get it if I could remember where it was..
Quote from: Wave Kusanagi on February 09, 2010, 06:04:33 PM
@Miacis
Really? o.o It seems like some things were a little too off to be Dissidia, like colors and extra details Square added for god knows what reason. Sorry though, didn't mean to offend. o_o'
? I didn't take it as an offense. :)
But yeah, Dissidia and some FF7 artworks were mixed for this hack.
Quote from: SqLeon on February 07, 2010, 07:17:51 PM
I made some things as well on page 1, dont know if anyone saw that, this is what it was:
(http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz15/SqLeon123555/MenSelchrFaceB.png)(http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz15/SqLeon123555/MenSelchrChrNmSIke.png)(http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz15/SqLeon123555/MenSelchrChrNmIke.png)(http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz15/SqLeon123555/MenSelchrChrFaceIke.png) All four are required. The locations are,
(The portrait I used was originally something else, but the above picture was better)
(Right click and press "save as" or "save image as" to dl.)
(If you use cupash(I think that's what it's called), rename the file to the last name, so MenSelchrChrNmIke would be MenSelchrNm.331.)
This is great :) Now if just somebody could make a TGA for using with Cupash I will be more than served :P
I am sorry if this was already asked, but... is there a detailed guide for vertex editing somewhere? I would like to try it out myself.
Quote from: Uncle0wnage on February 09, 2010, 05:35:57 PM
I made a Zack Fair and A Cloud FF7 ingame texture if anyone wants them, just post.
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Zack looks too pale and the clothes are too dark.
Just a suggestion, if anyone is willing, we could make THIS (http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/8/8a/Dissidia_Cloud_ex.png) cloud by simply hexing the sword back to it's original shape, or a bit larger.
i was wondering if V2 of cloud will have the sword bigger?
it looks good enough as is, but looks a little short. (is it just me?) ;/
@UncleOwnage
Is there a DL link somewhere where i could get your FF7 texture?
What would you improve in the version 2??maybe more hair on his biggest spike?
Hmm... His hair has to be a bit changed. Like you said more hair on his biggest spike and also his front lock could be changed.
(http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy134/Yavanna_Eldar/cloud3.jpg)
Maybe his sword could be a little longer.
Edit: And it could be nice to make a Zack model too... If that's not too much work of course. Yes... I think I ask too much :-\
Should I? No. Did I? Yes.
Here's version 2 in comparison to version 1. You'll appreciate the differences (can you name them all?)
(http://i45.tinypic.com/ieq89u.jpg)
Also, for those concerned that his sword isn't true to it's actual length, alright, alright, we hear you. We'll pump out a v2L (L meaning long, speaking for the sword).
Yeah, kinda went the dissidia route. But hey, Cloud is Cloud. Heh.
Looks pretty sweet. Cant wait to try it out :D
Sniff Sniff. Jack.H, I think I love you lol
that v2 looks awesome, but, could you fix his skinny hand <_< it kinda creeps me out seeing it so skinny.
Nice V2! All the hair spikes are the save for the big one atop his head. Other than that, the color changes, the placement and direction of the spikes are rather spot on!
How's the moveset coming along?
btw, wave, you posted a pic of what looked like a ganon texture slapped on cloud. If it's not too much trouble could you provide a dl or point me in the direction where I can get me summa that? Looked mighty awesome!
Thanks! Keep up the good work!
Quote from: Jack H. on February 10, 2010, 01:27:09 AM
Should I? No. Did I? Yes.
Here's version 2 in comparison to version 1. You'll appreciate the differences (can you name them all?)
(http://i45.tinypic.com/ieq89u.jpg)
Also, for those concerned that his sword isn't true to it's actual length, alright, alright, we hear you. We'll pump out a v2L (L meaning long, speaking for the sword).
Yeah, kinda went the dissidia route. But hey, Cloud is Cloud. Heh.
Great work! New Hair and Materia holes for everyone :D. Now onto an AC Cloud v2.0? :P
About the long sword, mmm I think its a gret idea, but wouldnt it be kind of unbalanced in a normal Brawl. Maybe a long sword could be a great addition, once the PSA is done.
Just thinking. :)
Of course. The point of v2L is so that those complaining can have their precious long sword, even if the hitbox is completely... well, wrong.
The best combination will be v3L - where almost all the nit-picks will be fixed, and the moveset will be streamlined into it as well.
It would be cool to see a Squall costume.
I see :).Good idea.
V3L will be a must have for FF fans then :). Btw, now that we are into that topic, how will a v3L Cloud Vs a V3L Sephiroth match ? :D . wouldnt that be amazing :P
lol I take it that you couldn't take all the hate comments of his hair.
Quote from: matteron on February 10, 2010, 02:51:06 AM
lol I take it that you couldn't take all the hate comments of his hair.
Akari realized it was backwards, but was far enough into it that he wouldn't bother changing it. I suppose the comments alerted us that it was actually important. heh.
...To be honest, from the screenshot, the V2 hair looks...weird and off to me. I honestly don't like it. It lacks the spiky nature of his original look that I know and love. I guess it's making me think of his AC hairstyle, and I completely hate that hairstyle. It takes away from the "Spiky Haired Badass" theme Cloud has. Though other people love to overhype it, including Square themselves. >_>
But now I sound like I'm hating and whining...I'll try it out ingame first. -.o
Edit: SH*T! It's not done and hasn't been released yet! Disregard this comment, I suck big furry [censored]s. >_>
Edit2: Thinking about what I said, that means that hair would look pretty good with the AC Outfit... o_o
Wow now his hair looks perfect! (sorry Wave but I prefer his hairstyle in AC :P)
Now as Wii said his skinny arm could be fixed. If that was changed then it would be REALLY perfect.
Edit: very good idea for the two versions of the sword. Just hope you will manage to keep him balanced ;)
Btw... What will you do for a v3? I don't see what could be changed now.
I like the new AC-CC hair style, looks much better with the ike model modified
*points at these two* See? More people are overhyping that crappy AC hairstyle now. It's pathetic. D< *SMACKED*
I prefer his FFVII hairstyle, but his AC outfit, I think it's just cooler.
Are you guys planning on adding the spikes on top of his head or are you keeping it like that? /Either way it kinda looks better.
Akari was a little pissed at all the whining, so he says he'll be taking the modifications phase at his own pace. I suppose that makes sense.
While he's correcting that, I'm getting started with a few team members on the next project. Not going to talk about it, since it would derail the topic in this thread - but just know that it's in the works.
Quote from: Jack H. on February 10, 2010, 02:26:42 PM
While he's correcting that, I'm getting started with a few team members on the next project. Not going to talk about it, since it would derail the topic in this thread - but just know that it's in the works.
:-X .......*Whisper* Sephiroth? *cough cough* :-X
Quote from: Jack H. on February 10, 2010, 02:26:42 PM
While he's correcting that, I'm getting started with a few team members on the next project. Not going to talk about it, since it would derail the topic in this thread - but just know that it's in the works.
@Feanor
That would be nice since they may already have a starting point from ESH and I posted earlier Marth needs to compete with Ike but jumping the gun may lead to hectic threads. Look at all the criticism from Cloud being shown earlier then full release.
Not saying I don't agree with you but this thread may be spammed by Sephiroth fans.
Jack had to be a little tease about it. Lets not assume and just be amazed by what the team does this time.
Quote from: dingoberriz on February 10, 2010, 04:23:45 PM
Quote from: Jack H. on February 10, 2010, 02:26:42 PM
While he's correcting that, I'm getting started with a few team members on the next project. Not going to talk about it, since it would derail the topic in this thread - but just know that it's in the works.
@Feanor
That would be nice since they may already have a starting point from ESH and I posted earlier Marth needs to compete with Ike but jumping the gun may lead to hectic threads. Look at all the criticism from Cloud being shown earlier then full release.
Not saying I don't agree with you but this thread may be spammed by Sephiroth fans.
Jack had to be a little tease about it. Lets not assume and just be amazed by what the team does this time.
I agree, I was just curious. But I knew he wouldn't answer anyway and it's a good choice. *suspense!*
And it's not really criticism for Cloud, his first version is already amazing and everyone agree for that,we're just giving advices on what could be done to make him even better.
After all, the subject is "Final Fantasy VII - Cloud Strife Specs, Discussion, and Progress"
its cool that they gonna make a long sword version ;). personally, i was only CURIOUS if they meant to have the sword normal sized or if was to be updated, but i guess i wasnt the only one asking about it! lol.
also V2 hair looks GREAT! i dont have a fav of the hairstyles but i think he looks good with either!
(btw i didnt notice his hair was wrong in V1 until i went through this ENTIRE topic. lol.
Seriously, guys, calm down a bit about the hair criticism. I know you
arez djust givin yar opinion, but ... really. Have you at least noticed how fast Akari_Un managed to change his model so well ? o_o
(Besides, quite some authors simply don't like criticism. It's not that they are dumb and overproud. They just do not have this urge some have to improve, improve and improve, and they are creating in order to make people happy. So take that into account before criticizing, and try to show your happy side, at least. :) )[These things I just said were not necessarily directed toward the latest persons to have posted, but to the thread as a whole.]
I can't wait for the moveset. This is going to be SOOO epic, believe me. ;)
Quote from: Wave Kusanagi on February 10, 2010, 07:27:22 AM
Edit: SH*T! It's not done and hasn't been released yet! Disregard this comment, I suck big furry [censored]s. >_>
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haha where'd you get that from
deviantart?
Quote from: Pik on February 10, 2010, 08:04:38 PM
haha where'd you get that from
deviantart?
:P
Yep. From here. (http://sageofmagic.deviantart.com/) ^^
Cute manga-style good ol' pencil drawings. :3
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cant wait till we all can vertex hack the easy way.
Quote from: wii on February 10, 2010, 09:00:06 PM
cant wait till we all can vertex hack the easy way.
lol?, hmmm
"tono despistado" Si yo tampoco pùedo esperar", volteo hacia ambos lados
I wonder why this isn't a sticky yet ;)
encontre los modelos de brawl para usar y editar en Maya, pero no se si se pudieran cambiar de regreso para usar en brawl.
Quote from: wii on February 10, 2010, 11:06:47 PM
encontre los modelos de brawl para usar y editar en Maya, pero no se si se pudieran cambiar de regreso para usar en brawl.
old
personally, i think the hair is amazing...tho it was great before too :D
Is it ok if I shoot you a pm sometime for help with the alternate file code wave (sorry if this seems off topic).
ok guys, I really want to use this model hack, but how can I use it with the changes they made in brawl+? I guess I can't remove Ike's b+ pac, so is it possible to use with just the pcs?
@ValTrox
*FACEPALM*...
Movesets are FitName.pac. Outfits are FitNameNumber.pcs/.pac
Example of what you want:
Oufits - FitIke00.pac/FitIke00.pcs
Moveset - FitIke.pac
There. It's basically already done for you.
well seems like there isnt much enthusiasm about my midgar stage, however here is the thread in the help section.
http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=5654.0
hopefully ill be posting pics for a better understanding of what im talking about
I didn't know that xD, all I ever use are textures, not model hacks, thanks for info Wave
Found a bug in Brawl + for Cloud. If you play four player (or in my case, one human player and four cpu players) on Flat Zone 2, it sort of speeds up and the hud is flashing. If you try to go back to the results screen, the screen stays black forever. To avoid this bug do not play Brawl + with Cloud!!
Quote from: JaredHedgehog on February 11, 2010, 03:46:02 PM
Found a bug in Brawl + for Cloud. If you play four player (or in my case, one human player and four cpu players) on Flat Zone 2, it sort of speeds up and the hud is flashing. If you try to go back to the results screen, the screen stays black forever. To avoid this bug do not play Brawl + with Cloud!!
Try this same scenario but on a different level. Do you achieve the same issues?
Just found out the problem!! I was using V1 and I had Zero Suit Samus as one of my opponents!!! Oh sh*t... Just downloaded the latest version. Playing regular Brawl with it now.
Quote from: JaredHedgehog on February 11, 2010, 05:48:07 PM
Just found out the problem!! I was using V1 and I had Zero Suit Samus as one of my opponents!!! Oh sh*t... Just downloaded the latest version. Playing regular Brawl with it now.
Ah. Ok. Yeah - problem solved. Heh.
(http://elitesmashhackers.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/al_100212_1654.jpg)
Really sucks this was posted as a teaser on ESH. Who knows when this will get finished. No offense to ESH. Love you guys all the same.
But seeing as mastaklo made this, we can at last be sure that he finishes it.
Yeah I think he needs people to help though.
Quote from: Calamitas on February 12, 2010, 03:56:24 PM
But seeing as mastaklo made this, we can at last be sure that he finishes it.
^
...Marth, with long hair, doesn't look gay anymore...Just girly. XD
What Calamitas said.
Curious about what kinds of projects are gonna be done by any team with as much detail and effort as Cloud and Sephiroth will have put into both projects.
Quote from: dingoberriz on February 12, 2010, 06:11:46 PM
Curious about what kinds of projects are gonna be done by any team with as much detail and effort as Cloud and Sephiroth will have put into both projects.
Me too ...
Anyway, I was wondering, someday I saw an Advent Children Tifa Texture, (dont know if it was for ZSS or Peach), but I cant find it again. Does anybody happen to have the link ? I will really appreciated :).
Btw CLoud is working very well in Tourneys and Texturized Stages with PW and Dantarion´s code. Maybe be usefull to someone.
Quote from: Wave Kusanagi on February 12, 2010, 05:25:24 PM
...Marth, with long hair, doesn't look gay anymore...Just girly. XD
Holy crap Wave you are right. Marth isn't gay anymore, he is just girly...
Either that or it's just the model. It needs more editing. Then it would be perfect...
His chest stands out and Marth doesn't have the parted bangs so the excessive skin by his neck makes him look like a girl.
I hope Mastaklo adds the bangs for future pics.
sorry for whoever did the texture, the next comment may sound harsh..
the part that exposes his chest shows his ribs too much... IT MAKES HIM LOOK LIKE A STARVING SUPERMODEL!!! GIVE HIM SOME MEAT ON THOSE BONES!!
(this is for sephiroth pic btw)
for lulz click here :D
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu117/CR4CK3RWLF/NOWAI.png?t=1266050131
Yeah, his chest is far too exposed and his hair is kinda funky, but I imagine it's not near to being finished yet.
Do you think he will change the sword? Maybe he could use the sword of the samurai help trophy as a base.
The problem with Marth is the form of his face : it's too round (like a girl ;D) whereas Sephiroth's face is thin.
Is it possible to change it?
Quote from: Feanor on February 13, 2010, 01:36:30 PM
Do you think he will change the sword? Maybe he could use the sword of the samurai help trophy as a base.
The problem with Marth is the form of his face : it's too round (like a girl ;D) whereas Sephiroth's face is thin.
Is it possible to change it?
It would require some patience, but yes - it's definitely doable.
sword and face already changed to fit sephiroths
also edited the hair in his face
Mastaklo I love you!!! :happy:
thats exciting :) i would like to see a complete sephiroth soon, then i could just get rid of fire emblem in my game altogether and convert to final fantasy!
Nice to hear about Sephiroth.
...And one week later, the thread has gone quiet and we haven't heard much about anything else going on with Cloud. Oh well. Still looking forward to the moveset either way.
Quote from: mastaklo on February 13, 2010, 04:33:10 PM
sword and face already changed to fit sephiroths
also edited the hair in his face
is this AC sephiroth or some other version?
He is the same in all versions.
right...but i mean, is he gonna be detail oriented (the texture) or just simple with pure black clothes.
Well in his first teaser he tried to make a detailed texture. It could be improved but we can guess he will make the real texture, not just black clothes.
the texture in the teaser was just a quick one
it will be improved of course
The status on Cloud is strictly based on Akari Un at this point. Hopefully he has some time to spare and work on it.
Let me rephrase that Jack. I'm not talking about his next model/costume version. I'm just talking about the moveset.
We haven't really heard anything on the moveset at all. Akari isn't one of the people working on that anyways, right? o_o
im not working on the moveset/PSA (I dont know how ti make that, and I dont want to learn for now)
Quote from: RainLink on February 07, 2010, 08:33:19 PM
If anybody wants it, I made a logo or mark for cloud.
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s288/RainLink/cloudlogo.png)
Replace MenSelchrMark.15 from your info.pac so it will show up during battle and replace MenSelchrMark.15 from your common5.pac so it will show up in your character select screen.
Also, a CSB,
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s288/RainLink/cloud.png)
and finally this displays Cloud's name instead of Ike's during battle.
Replace MenSelcherChrNmS.331 in your info.pac located under MiscData [30]
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s288/RainLink/cloudinb.png)
can someone add this to the Common5.pac file that "joem3693"posted because i want to see clouds face and name during battle instead of ikes. please can someone do that? thanks
Quote from: Akari_Un on February 14, 2010, 02:32:02 AM
im not working on the moveset/PSA (I dont know how ti make that, and I dont want to learn for now)
who is... and when will we have news?
Canon says:
Regarding Cloud:
"Blah Blah Blah going well Blah Blah Blah fixing gliches Blah Blah Blah looking dandy."
Quote from: Jack H. on February 14, 2010, 05:07:37 AM
Canon says:
Regarding Cloud:
"Blah Blah Blah going well Blah Blah Blah fixing gliches Blah Blah Blah looking dandy."
Oh Snap I should defend this with another quote
Jack says
Regarding Cloud:
"Even 2 sentences of status report would ease the crowd. heh"
:3
Technically it wasn't 2 sentences
Quote from: Canon98 on February 14, 2010, 05:14:18 AM
Quote from: Jack H. on February 14, 2010, 05:07:37 AM
Canon says:
Regarding Cloud:
"Blah Blah Blah going well Blah Blah Blah fixing gliches Blah Blah Blah looking dandy."
Oh Snap I should defend this with another quote
Jack says
Regarding Cloud:
"Even 2 sentences of status report would ease the crowd. heh"
:3
Technically it wasn't 2 sentences
Back to work you!
*kicks*
(http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/531/531112/final-fantasy-vii-advent-children-20040716070849928.jpg)
(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/582/loljack.png)
:af:
canon troll him harder.
How broken a mofo is the moveset? Does he still have ikes physics?
I see you guys are working very hard on the moveset. ;D ;D ;D
@Humble
Good to see your back.
hopefully equal time goes into chat as moveset :P
no rush tho, whenever its realeased itll be great.
In resume of what i understand about all this mess:
Jack wanna include a penis in the moveset and Canon print screen it prooving that
.......right?? :?
Hmm......................... I don't think so...
Btw, if you watch well, you will see it was Canon who told him to draw that... ^^"
Any progress on the voice hack?
Also, after this you should make the red mage on someone.
Quote from: wii on February 10, 2010, 01:55:09 AM
that v2 looks awesome, but, could you fix his skinny hand <_< it kinda creeps me out seeing it so skinny.
This. I argued the point over at Smashboards a while back. I know they looked at the Dissidia model a lot in their design of this Ike hack, but even in the Dissidia model, his physical arm definitely does not get smaller. That's just the way Nomura's art looks. That, and the bangles themselves start out larger at the edges and get thinner as they go in (which is creating the illusion that was perceived as "he has a tiny arm"). The arm under all of that is the same (it's not like he's got some gimp arm or a robot arm or something), and accordingly should be no smaller than his right arm.
Liking some of the other stuff seen in the V2 though, like the updated sword and shirt (although when I watch some footage, it seems these changes have already been implemented in v1? I'm referring to the lack of a zipper on the shirt, and the holes in the sword). I still wish his shoulder pad was edited to be shorter to more resemble the FFVII design (and not the Dissidia design). I don't think the limitations of vertex hacking allow for a very accurate recreation of his Dissidia shoulder pad. As far as the hair goes I'll reserve judgment until V2 is finished and there are some better pictures.
Also, they're making the sword longer? I'm fine with it how it is, especially if the hitboxes still appear correctly... I hope they still keep a version with the shorter sword D:
And of course, great job overall on the whole thing still. I've been wishing more hacks would come out like this (vertex hacks to create new characters, there's tons of potential!). You guys have released a great first version and it looks like future revisions are certainly coming along.
We will have two versions for the sword : V2.0 with normal sword and V2.0L for the big sword.
Just wondering, do you guys have a zip or rar that will contain all of the cloud stuff (moveset, costumes, final smash, and csp's), or do you plan on making one? I know you guys have made a lot of amazing costumes, and I was hoping you could package it all into one once you guys are finished with everything. I like the KH costume by the way. Great job! :)
I wouldnt be surprised. only thing is if they do would the use the costumes for team battles?
just a suggestion here but...
FitIke00 - AC outfit
FitIke01 - Red FF7
FitIke02 - Green FF7
FitIke03 - Blue FF7
FitIke04 - Dissidia outfit
FitIke05 - KH1 outfit
00 and 04 should be switched, THEN it's fine. There's no good reason why AC Cloud should be the standard Cloud. >_>
For the heck of it, my costumes and portraits are as follows
FitIke00 - Normal Cloud
FitIke01 - KH Cloud
FitIke02 - Dissidia Cloud
FitIke03 - Manakin Cloud
FitIke04 - Zack
FitIke05 - AC Cloud
Akari has given me a sneak preview of v2's revamp hair.
All I can say is wow. You wont be disappointed.
Nice to hear about the hair Jack. Can't wait to see it. :3
*continues eagerly waiting for the moveset*
Quote from: Wave Kusanagi on February 16, 2010, 07:48:30 AM
Nice to hear about the hair Jack. Can't wait to see it. :3
*continues eagerly waiting for the moveset*
We've now got .Fade working on the moveset as well, since he's the expert in town. Should be promising. ;D
Quote from: Jack H. on February 16, 2010, 08:39:31 AM
Quote from: Wave Kusanagi on February 16, 2010, 07:48:30 AM
Nice to hear about the hair Jack. Can't wait to see it. :3
*continues eagerly waiting for the moveset*
We've now got .Fade working on the moveset as well, since he's the expert in town. Should be promising. ;D
Correction: not really =3 But thanks to all the bugs I ran into with Ike, if Shukaku has a question about something going wrong, he can ask me. That's all I'm here for =P
So far no questions, btw. I think he's got it under control. =)
pronto estara listo, pero mi interrogante, dbere sacarlo junto con la SA y moveset?
Quote from: Akari_Un on February 16, 2010, 05:50:13 PM
pronto estara listo, pero mi interrogante, dbere sacarlo junto con la SA y moveset?
I hope that's the case. We'll have to get an update from Shukaku on how things are going. Releasing them at the same time is a good idea.
SA?
Can someone tell me what Cloud texture BSZ is showing off at 0:59 of this video and where I can get it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUyjujfmvtE
first age of this trhead dude
I realised something.........why you guys are so impatient to get 6 alt costume for that cloud model??? there isn't any wrong to keep some ike textures in it, some really worth it, SPECIALLY my Squall texture, considering that he:
1. is a REAL MEN!!
2. He has the most worked alpha layered, beautiful Hair and.......
3. IT'S BROWN!!!!
And what are you doing with Cloud it's just changing his appearance to be more manly then have to go back to the shop because the costume didn't fit and then they refused to give him a refund so you wasted 40 million gil with two coupons from red less..................................... STUPID COSTUME!!!!
I'll tell you why Dhragen, because there's no point I having a Squall texture there if there's no Kefka to run in circles around him while he loves every second of it.
...Wait...Ah well, too late. I already killed Marth for Roy anyways. XD
I'm still hoping for an update to the file replacement code that allows for loading of alternate movesets.
What're you talking about Jack? It already does that. or do you mean for PAL? o_o
i think he means like a moveset for each costume
If that's the case...Yeah, I don't see that happening at all unfortnuately, though it would be nice if that was possible. It'd be more than a matter of changing that code though, they'd have to probably change the pcs/pac files too. -.o;
It's a matter of loading a specific .PAC file moveset via holding down a specific direction on the d-pad while selecting your character. In theory, it'd be quite simple to load FitChar.pac by default, and FitChar1.pac instead if left on the d-pad is held.
It can happen.
@Jack Can't that already be done with Almas "Alternate File Loader/Clone Engine" on Smash Boards? Unless you meant loading more then one on the same person at the same time.
Quote from: Dhragen on February 17, 2010, 05:17:08 AM
I realised something.........why you guys are so impatient to get 6 alt costume for that cloud model??? there isn't any wrong to keep some ike textures in it, some really worth it, SPECIALLY my Squall texture, considering that he:
1. is a REAL MEN!!
2. He has the most worked alpha layered, beautiful Hair and.......
3. IT'S BROWN!!!!
And what are you doing with Cloud it's just changing his appearance to be more manly then have to go back to the shop because the costume didn't fit and then they refused to give him a refund so you wasted 40 million gil with two coupons from red less..................................... STUPID COSTUME!!!!
I love your Squall texture D:
And beating up a helpless child.
I use the squall texture as well. My friends and I use it a lot. I don't plan on ditching ike necessarily, but i would like to have a selection of cloud costumes to put in to play as.
Quote from: dingoberriz on February 18, 2010, 06:32:15 PM
Has the metal cape on cloud been fixed yet?
Could have sworn I answered this somewhere, but I couldn't find a direct quote.
No. Surgically removing his cape causes graphical malfunctions. You'll end up having to deal with the "invisible cape" that we've prepared for you. :D
Um, I know how to fix the up B glitch, if anyone is interested...
Quote from: cuckoos on February 19, 2010, 12:52:11 AM
Um, I know how to fix the up B glitch, if anyone is interested...
We've been knowing how... <_<
Quote from: Shadow on February 19, 2010, 12:54:29 AM
Quote from: cuckoos on February 19, 2010, 12:52:11 AM
Um, I know how to fix the up B glitch, if anyone is interested...
We've been knowing how... <_<
Almost positive it's been fixed for v2. It was a minor oversight. Thanks for being willing to share though. heh.
Hi, I like this project, is the best I have seen in a long time.
I was wondering, is there a way to have everything from v2 but having the v1 hair, I really prefer the FFVII Cloud, I didn't liked the Advent Childrent one, so if there is a posibility would be great.
Is v2's hair still even going to look like AC? or was that just cause of a preview and it'll actually be FF7's hair? Not to hassle, but I agree with Felix on that. Don't like AC's hairstyle. Outfit is cool, just not the hair. >_>
the Up B is fixed (time ago)
Are you guys talking about how the sword turns back into Ragnell during Aether? Because that still happens, even in the new model. I figured you guys just decided not to mess with it. XD
Quote from: Wave Kusanagi on February 19, 2010, 05:40:07 AM
Are you guys talking about how the sword turns back into Ragnell during Aether? Because that still happens, even in the new model. I figured you guys just decided not to mess with it. XD
I think they mean in v2, not in the release version that fixed the DK, Lucario, and ZSS glitch....unless you beta tested it....?
Pfft, I wish. XD
But if that actually is what you guys mean, then I'll hush on that. Disregard that. :3
Any new updates? Can you give us a percentage on progress or something? Just a little something to make the wait a little more bearable.
Quote from: janfeae on February 20, 2010, 02:09:41 AM
Any new updates? Can you give us a percentage on progress or something? Just a little something to make the wait a little more bearable.
and if you do, could you include a moveset percent :P
It's boiled down to Shukaku and Canon. If you want it to get done, bother them with PMs. :)
Great, now people are actually going to do it. Aren't you just so nice Jack? ¦D
so wanna release a v 1.5 then...haha :)
I finished hexing the emerald version of Cloud...sending it over to Wave for his texture.
Hey Wave, I just looked at the Dissidia Mannequin Cloud in the Character files in the museum, he is supposed to look like crystal, and his eyes should stay pure white with no pupils.
edit:
pics: http://img714.imageshack.us/i/hni0013.jpg/ http://img211.imageshack.us/i/hni0012a.jpg/
The Cloud Manakin (Yes, it's Manakin in the game) has red eyes. Look closer.
Edit: Removed due to unneeded rudeness.
Maybe there are different versions of the game? because I'm looking at it and it has no pupils, it doesn't even have them in that second picture I posted.
Weird, in my game he has red pupils. Not too sure. Square is always weird with stuff like that. o_o
Hey, all you people lurking, which would you rather have? No pupils or red eyes? XD
^ Personally, I prefer the air no pupils.
I say, if they are like that in yours, then there are 2 versions, which means people will have both versions, which means make 2 versions of the texture, so people can choose the one appropriate to their game. it's not that hard to remove anyway right?
White looks nicer, if people want red they can fix them-damn-selves :af:
Actually, I decided to do something a bit better. They'll be white while he's normal and red while in FS mode.
Basically, like this. :3
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/CloudManakin.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/CloudManakin2.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/CloudManakin1.jpg)
http://www.mediafire.com/?xxmge5m22yy
Enjoy folks. Major credit to Dchen for hexing and vertex hacking Ike's Emerald model for me. What would I do without that guy? :3
Credits to Wave for actually getting me to do some hacking. Lol. I usually don't, but it's always nice to help out the community.
And a message to the Cloud Team...if I'm needed to make the Emerald model of Cloud v2 I suppose I can do that if you'd like.
If you happen to need to do that Dchen, let me know so I can do version 3 of Cloud's Manakin, though all I'll have to do is export the texture data and add it in. XD
Blinding, but awesome.
It's a emerald texture, what the hell did you expect? XD
Thanks :3
Ah, the topic title changed, plus all the specials were added...
I owe everybody in this thread 5 bucks now. Damn you Canon. XD
Quote
I owe everybody in this thread 5 bucks now. Damn you Canon. XD
...why?
also nice texture, and glad to finally have some update :)
Because he bet 5 bucks that Nair of Fair would be braver, but now it's one of the specials.
That is a very nice texture there, Wave. I'm looking forward to the moveset.
hmm...I'm going to need sun glasses if I face that cloud texture.
better hair plz. also @random SSBB player what ike texture is that.
@smashmaniac
...You're a real inconsiderate ass, you know that? -_-
They're working on it! Now f*** off about the hair!
Is the download out for Ver. 2 yet? Very nice texture by the way, looks way better than the cloud texture i have on him now (didnt make it by the way). Having the actual hair, plus the buster sword is really cool. Since this seems like its based on Cloud's Dissidia appearance (attack wise) i was thinking someone should make one for Tidus too.
Just popping in to ask the current status of his moveset.
@Thundaga
No.
@Marluxia
First post.
Tidus would totally rock. FFX is my favorite FF. Hmm, maybe I'll try out vertex hacking sometime.
Wow...Did the excitement for this die down or what? o_o'
I don't think the excitement for this died, only that everyone is waiting patiently for the next release.
By the way that's what I do XD
Quote from: felixsrg on February 24, 2010, 07:05:00 PM
I don't think the excitement for this died, only that everyone is waiting patiently for the next release.
By the way that's what I do XD
That's accurate. After looking at the stats in the admin boards, this is still, by far, the most viewed thread per day.
Wow, patience? On the internet?
I guess it's more likely than you think. :3 *goes back to playing .Hack G.U. Vol. 3*
Quote from: felixsrg on February 24, 2010, 07:05:00 PM
I don't think the excitement for this died, only that everyone is waiting patiently for the next release.
By the way that's what I do XD
i envy the fact that you can wait patiently for this
Quote from: PhRzN on February 25, 2010, 01:04:56 AM
i envy the fact that you can wait patiently for this
It's easy, While I wait for Cloud to be released I work onto my Isaac model so I have something to get distracted; This and the fact that the more time Cloud take to be done the best Cloud will be... so I can easily wait =)
Quote from: Wave Kusanagi on February 24, 2010, 06:41:07 PM
Wow...Did the excitement for this die down or what? o_o'
Model Hacking > this
Quote from: felixsrg on February 25, 2010, 01:38:25 AM
Quote from: PhRzN on February 25, 2010, 01:04:56 AM
i envy the fact that you can wait patiently for this
It's easy, While I wait for Cloud to be released I work onto my Isaac model so I have something to get distracted; This and the fact that the more time Cloud take to be done the best Cloud will be... so I can easily wait =)
u making a moveset to go with that Issac model....seeing as golden sun one of my top 3 games of all time...you should :D
(sorry for the off topicness....yay cloud >.<)
Quote from: OizenX on February 25, 2010, 01:40:45 AM
Quote from: Wave Kusanagi on February 24, 2010, 06:41:07 PM
Wow...Did the excitement for this die down or what? o_o'
Model Hacking > this
Quote from: OizenX on February 15, 2010, 07:15:17 PM
Model hacking isn't really possible yet.
^ wtf? lol
Correction: Stage Model Importing > this
Character Model Importing blows chunks (have you seen a finished product before? Yeah.). Cool idea, terrible incorporation atm.
Honestly, after seeing the previews of the PSA I'm all set to just stay with Ike's moves, so there's not too much left for me to get excited about.
Any idea when this will be done?
@Majora
When it's done of course!
Quote from: Majora252 on February 28, 2010, 03:54:40 AM
Any idea when this will be done?
PM Fade about it. He claims to be nearing completion! :D
Hi, is the Cloud moveset going to be released today as you said Jack H.?
Sorry if I'm bothering you but I really want this.
No Felix, it's tomorrow. :3
Tomorrow??? :happy:
OH YES!!!
oh i completly forgot about this project
13? I thought it was 12, well one more day doesn't hurt.
Yup, tomorrow. And get ready. It's being released similar to the way Gmail was: Pretty much done, but we're slapping a "beta" name under it cause we want feedback on how it can be subtly improved.
Too bad this topic isn't getting all spammy like that last one...
=(
I know this is straying from cloud, but I just was wondering if anyone made a sephiroth texture for marth. I just saw this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7fuW727ukM
and was wondering if anyone picked up the idea.
Back to topic: I'm looking forward to the moveset. :)
Quote from: Raiuken on March 13, 2010, 08:03:26 AM
I know this is straying from cloud, but I just was wondering if anyone made a sephiroth texture for marth. I just saw this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7fuW727ukM
and was wondering if anyone picked up the idea.
Back to topic: I'm looking forward to the moveset. :)
i think thats probably the best sephiroth costume texture i have seen so far.
for those of you who dont know that my sephiroth is released here is the link
http://www.mediafire.com/?3nwiwmmqmxk
its the one in the video
Today? Wow. This sure took it's time...
I just hope that it will be as good as it promises to be.
Pretty much what Calamitas said. For the long wait we got, hope this doesn't disappoint. The new model is being released with it too, right? Right? ¦D
Quote from: OizenX on March 13, 2010, 03:40:53 AM
Too bad this topic isn't getting all spammy like that last one...
=(
Well, you know, we can always start that up again O.O jk
YES im really looking forward to this so wat times it gonna be released the night?lol
In other words we STILL have to wait for a seemingly endless time before we get the actual completed moveset. Well f*SCREECH*.
I was really looking forward to Omnislash, but oh well. ¦D Good luck then.
And again, what about the new model? I'd like an answer sometime today folks. ¦D
So Wave, I remember you saying something about making a PAL port of that moveset hack...?
I said I would try that after it got released, but apparently Shadow or someone else already has that handled, which is good because I definitely don't care about it now. It's been too long. XD
Question:
only PSA moveset will be relased?
Quote from: Wave Kusanagi on March 13, 2010, 06:26:52 PM
In other words we STILL have to wait for a seemingly endless time before we get the actual completed moveset. Well f*SCREECH*.
And again, what about the new model? I'd like an answer sometime today folks. ¦D
It's
ungrateful,
selfish,
ignorant people like you that make me question if we should even release it.
Well f*** you too Canon.
I was only making a statement. I wasn't saying you guys should hurry up or anything of the sort, or that I was ungrateful. What, a I not allowed to say what's on my mind now? I don't recall you having any control over what I think.
I'm very grateful that this will be released soon and never said anything insinuating the opposite, so get off your high horse and check yourself before acting like a 50 year old angry mom on 3 months late PMS.
Also, I find it funny how you left out the part where I wished you guys good luck on the project. What to pick and choose what you want to read and let others see, huh?
Fine, let me rephrase this so that even you can understand it.
"I'm a little disappointed that it won't be completely finished, but I'm still very much looking forward to this early release. I'm sure I'll enjoy it and will have even more fun when the full version is finally complete. It'll probably take awhile and we'll all be waiting for it, be it patiently or impatiently, but at least it'll be worth it."
There, is that enough brown-nosing for you?
Quote from: Canon98 on March 13, 2010, 09:17:03 PM
Quote from: Wave Kusanagi on March 13, 2010, 06:26:52 PM
In other words we STILL have to wait for a seemingly endless time before we get the actual completed moveset. Well f*SCREECH*.
And again, what about the new model? I'd like an answer sometime today folks. ¦D
It's ungrateful, selfish, ignorant people like you that make me question if we should even release it.
Chill man, I don't think he was being that serious, probably more sarcastic than anything. It's not like we haven't been waiting patiently (as far as I'm aware) already. We are all very grateful that you're doing this.
Quote from: HallowVortex on March 13, 2010, 09:25:04 PM
Quote from: Canon98 on March 13, 2010, 09:17:03 PM
Quote from: Wave Kusanagi on March 13, 2010, 06:26:52 PM
In other words we STILL have to wait for a seemingly endless time before we get the actual completed moveset. Well f*SCREECH*.
And again, what about the new model? I'd like an answer sometime today folks. ¦D
It's ungrateful, selfish, ignorant people like you that make me question if we should even release it.
Chill man, I don't think he was being that serious, probably more sarcastic than anything. It's not like we haven't been waiting patiently (as far as I'm aware) already. We are all very grateful that you're doing this.
^This. How seriously can you take someone who uses a face like "¦D" after something he says? I wasn't being that serious, though I do have a feeling it'll take awhile if there is stuff to be done since you guys seems to want it done right the first time. I wasn't trying to pressure you, so don't pressure me, got it?
I'm usually a nice guy around here, and I don't like starting crap.
Me and Fade have been working very hard and working a lot of our time to get everything perfect and balanced for Cloud. And when we give you guys the chance to test it out, and people still complain, it makes me sad. Then angry.
Please don't looks a gift horse in the mouth.
I would never do such a thing. I'm allergic to horses, apparently. ¦D
And I'll say it again, I'm not complaining. Making a statement from a quick thought is different from whining without thinking at all. I'm well aware of how hard you're working on this. There's no need for you to be so on guard, okay?
Though I will say just as another statement, complaining and whiners are inevitable. Just wait, 5 posts from now we'll be seeing it. I'll bet my football sex nachos on it. >_>
Ah, but just so we can tie up loose ends, sorry if I came across like I was unhappy with the current developments. It's quite the opposite, I can't wait to see what you've done. It may give me some good ideas for a little personal project I'm planning to start soon. :3
If this psa wasn't made for the oversized sword version that's gonna be a lot of the complaints. Sword going through people and all. You guys are awesome.
Video and Blog update in up people.
Jack expects his cranberry juice to be served in a goblet.
Quote from: dingoberriz on March 13, 2010, 09:56:14 PM
If this psa wasn't made for the oversized sword version that's gonna be a lot of the complaints. Sword going through people and all. You guys are awesome.
...Ah [censored]. I completely forgot about there being 2 versions of the new models. ¦D;
@Canon
I'mma checkin' now. :3
I just hope that nobody complains about the new model's hair... after doing some vertice hacks on my own, I know how painful it is to edit hair.
I dunno, I actually like the new model's hair compared to the old one. :3
At least he doesn't look like he has a mo-hawk anymore. XD
Oh yeah, I have to report a glitch:
While fighting Link with Brawl Minus PSA, the game froze after the first KO.
Another reported glitch: More than one Cloud at a time causes a soft-freeze (however, not the buzz of death). Most likely due to the incredibly massive FitMotionEtc file-size.
Quote from: Jack H. on March 14, 2010, 01:07:42 AM
Another reported glitch: More than one Cloud at a time causes a soft-freeze (however, not the buzz of death). Most likely due to the incredibly massive PSA file-size.
Lol, the PSA is an average size. The motion pac is above average tho.
Great work guys. Great work. Like I said before, some of us may not show it, but we reeeeeally appreciate you guys hard, hard work!!!
I Found a Glitch.
If king boblin hits you as cloud it freezes. Injected into the ISO. Dolphin Beta Final Build v2
Dolphin? Well no wonder. XD;
Here, use this code so that he won't go by and the bridge won't break, but the stage still animates. :3
Dark Link Duel [Phantom Wings]:
4A000000 90180F3A
38000000 FF000033
48000000 805B8ADC
DE000000 80008180
1400036C 4F000000
E0000000 80008000
Wait, homebrew works on Dolphin now?
Man, I need to get a new laptop.
Aside from emulators, I have my two cents to point out now. I know you're asking for glitches, but not many casual hackers are good at finding them, so i'll focus on gameplay. The only 'glitch' I found, per say, was that his winning-waiting animations are completely frozen. Not that it freezes the game, but rather the animation is frozen.
MASSIVE GAMEPLAY REVIEW TEXT WALL. DO NOT READ IF IRRELEVANT.
All in all, Cloud has no obvious weakness to be exploited. His worst point is getting back on stage, and it's mediocre at worst. His Side-B and Up-B are fine for recovery. His Up-B moves are also bad at hitting people.
You want to really beat Cloud? Get a character with projectiles.
There's no way to approach him without them, and when you do, it can only get worse.
From above? His Uair will juggle you, no matter how long the dodge is. For variation, try Nair instead and laugh when opponents can't get away from it's huge hitbox.
From below? Expect a Dair, Toon Link style and less lag. Or a Down-B. Slower, but great for off-stage spiking.
From the side? Cloud has two projectiles (Neutral-B and Down B) that can be predicted and dodged, but off-stage they become scary edge-guarders. His Foward Smash is fine for dealing with people that are good at spacing.
His F-tilt is mediocre, his D-tilt is better than Ike's, and his U-Tilt is magical. Compare the Utilt to Sheik's Ftilt.
Is Cloud on the ledge? His Side-Aerial move will hit anyone waiting for him, with it's massive reach.
It's so satisfying to land a full Aerial Neutral B on someone. :happy:
And there's my gameplay review on Cloud. Balanced? Nope. Legit? Yes. It's Cloud Strife, he's supposed to kick everyone's a**.
Peach's Final Smash causes him to freeze the game when he falls asleep...Yeah, talk about weird. XD
I think I may know the reason why he's freezing for some of these. I'll get to them quam celerrime.
Quote from: Vinyourg on March 14, 2010, 03:31:14 AM
Wait, homebrew works on Dolphin now?
Man, I need to get a new laptop.
Aside from emulators, I have my two cents to point out now. I know you're asking for glitches, but not many casual hackers are good at finding them, so i'll focus on gameplay. The only 'glitch' I found, per say, was that his winning-waiting animations are completely frozen. Not that it freezes the game, but rather the animation is frozen.
MASSIVE GAMEPLAY REVIEW TEXT WALL. DO NOT READ IF IRRELEVANT.
All in all, Cloud has no obvious weakness to be exploited. His worst point is getting back on stage, and it's mediocre at worst. His Side-B and Up-B are fine for recovery. His Up-B moves are also bad at hitting people.
You want to really beat Cloud? Get a character with projectiles.
There's no way to approach him without them, and when you do, it can only get worse.
From above? His Uair will juggle you, no matter how long the dodge is. For variation, try Nair instead and laugh when opponents can't get away from it's huge hitbox.
From below? Expect a Dair, Toon Link style and less lag. Or a Down-B. Slower, but great for off-stage spiking.
From the side? Cloud has two projectiles (Neutral-B and Down B) that can be predicted and dodged, but off-stage they become scary edge-guarders. His Foward Smash is fine for dealing with people that are good at spacing.
His F-tilt is mediocre, his D-tilt is better than Ike's, and his U-Tilt is magical. Compare the Utilt to Sheik's Ftilt.
Is Cloud on the ledge? His Side-Aerial move will hit anyone waiting for him, with it's massive reach.
It's so satisfying to land a full Aerial Neutral B on someone. :happy:
And there's my gameplay review on Cloud. Balanced? Nope. Legit? Yes. It's Cloud Strife, he's supposed to kick everyone's a**.
Thanks. This kind of input is also appreciated. We'll be sitting in our lawn chairs slurping juice - but we'll be on our netbooks on the front lawn read'n the subtle suggestions. You wont go unheard.
I was playing on the Pirate Ship with Cloud and Pokemon Trainer (specifically Charizard), and after awhile it seemingly froze for no reason.
Expect a re-released fixed file soon.
Freeze Fixes:
4 Player Clouds
Peach's Final
Hog Collision (Bridge of Eldin)
Stand-up glitch
is it normal wen rosalina uses her final smash cloud makes a weird noise and it freezes
Wow this really looks awesome! Sadly I can't test it myself as I won't have wii before may T_T
I just have a question though : I saw in the gameplay video that he still had Ike's voice, didn't you say you would change it? Or will you had it in the final version of the PSA?
Forgive me if you already told it somewhere.
Quote from: Calamitas on March 13, 2010, 11:02:30 PM
Oh yeah, I have to report a glitch:
While fighting Link with Brawl Minus PSA, the game froze after the first KO.
Oh yeah, I forgot to note: I was playing PAL Brawl.
Quote from: Feanor on March 14, 2010, 09:54:31 AM
Wow this really looks awesome! Sadly I can't test it myself as I won't have wii before may T_T
I just have a question though : I saw in the gameplay video that he still had Ike's voice, didn't you say you would change it? Or will you had it in the final version of the PSA?
Forgive me if you already told it somewhere.
Sound effects do NOT get replaced though PSA. It's through the smashbros_sound.brsar.
And that's a VERY tedious and annoying task. I'd be surprised if they're still doing it, though if they are, more power to em. I sure as hell wouldn't have the patience. >_>
So I noticed how he has Ikes Wait Stances. Are those going to be changed into a more FFVII Fashion?
I have a glitch to report, however reading the previous posts, im assuming you already know.
- NTSC
- Wii, the latest one. (the one before glitchy 4.0)
- i havent truely tested this one like i should have, but since i played with fox against him.
- from what ive seen, everytime he goes into his collapsed animation (ie someone hits him, he falls, hits ground, then stays there in a collapsed look..) when he tries to get back up, the game still plays music, but everyone is frozen. i assume that is a soft freeze you mentioned earlier?
as for some input about the moveset, to me, it seems it doesnt blend well.. the smashes give him a sense that he is heavy like Ike, but for his up B and such, he feels soo much lighter as it happens really quickly.
i guess after playing him with ikes moveset for so long, it made the changes seem more apparent.
not to mention, the down b on the ground goes WAY too far, idk if this is reflectable/absorbable like a projectile, but it DEFINATELY should be, otherwize that thing is way too strong.
and with the exception of his side smash, everything else makes it seem like his range is very limited (with the exception of fira)
just my two sense, but please do, enjoy your juice and lawn chairs XD
Quote from: CR4CK3RW0LF on March 14, 2010, 04:08:00 PM
I have a glitch to report, however reading the previous posts, im assuming you already know.
- NTSC
- Wii, the latest one. (the one before glitchy 4.0)
- i havent truely tested this one like i should have, but since i played with fox against him.
- from what ive seen, everytime he goes into his collapsed animation (ie someone hits him, he falls, hits ground, then stays there in a collapsed look..) when he tries to get back up, the game still plays music, but everyone is frozen. i assume that is a soft freeze you mentioned earlier?
-This is the 'Stand-up' Glitch, I have already fixed this and it works now. :af:
as for some input about the moveset, to me, it seems it doesnt blend well.. the smashes give him a sense that he is heavy like Ike, but for his up B and such, he feels soo much lighter as it happens really quickly.
-Wolf is considered Heavy and he has fast moves (Like side spam smash, though he does fall like a rock :P )
i guess after playing him with ikes moveset for so long, it made the changes seem more apparent.
not to mention, the down b on the ground goes WAY too far, idk if this is reflectable/absorbable like a projectile, but it DEFINATELY should be, otherwize that thing is way too strong.
-I agree with the whole absorb/reflect, though we CAN nerf it's damage and knockback. But I say keep the range.
and with the exception of his side smash, everything else makes it seem like his range is very limited (with the exception of fira)
-He's a sword character after all, so yes he will be limited to some close-range fighting.
just my two sense, but please do, enjoy your juice and lawn chairs XD
-*Sips Juice* :laugh:
My Response is in Green
Oh Yes and let me reiterate the Fix-List
Fixes:Stand-up glitch
Sleeping glitch (Peach's Final)
Bridge of Eldin Glitch
4 Player Cloud
^^Read that before you post any further glitches :)
Quote from: Canon98 on March 14, 2010, 04:20:40 PM
Quote from: CR4CK3RW0LF on March 14, 2010, 04:08:00 PM
I have a glitch to report, however reading the previous posts, im assuming you already know.
- NTSC
- Wii, the latest one. (the one before glitchy 4.0)
- i havent truely tested this one like i should have, but since i played with fox against him.
- from what ive seen, everytime he goes into his collapsed animation (ie someone hits him, he falls, hits ground, then stays there in a collapsed look..) when he tries to get back up, the game still plays music, but everyone is frozen. i assume that is a soft freeze you mentioned earlier?
-This is the 'Stand-up' Glitch, I have already fixed this and it works now. :af:
as for some input about the moveset, to me, it seems it doesnt blend well.. the smashes give him a sense that he is heavy like Ike, but for his up B and such, he feels soo much lighter as it happens really quickly.
-Wolf is considered Heavy and he has fast moves (Like side spam smash, though he does fall like a rock :P )
i guess after playing him with ikes moveset for so long, it made the changes seem more apparent.
not to mention, the down b on the ground goes WAY too far, idk if this is reflectable/absorbable like a projectile, but it DEFINATELY should be, otherwize that thing is way too strong.
-I agree with the whole absorb/reflect, though we CAN nerf it's damage and knockback. But I say keep the range.
and with the exception of his side smash, everything else makes it seem like his range is very limited (with the exception of fira)
-He's a sword character after all, so yes he will be limited to some close-range fighting.
just my two sense, but please do, enjoy your juice and lawn chairs XD
-*Sips Juice* :laugh:
My Response is in Green
Oh Yes and let me reiterate the Fix-List
Fixes:
Stand-up glitch
Sleeping glitch (Peach's Final)
Bridge of Eldin Glitch
4 Player Cloud
^^Read that before you post any further glitches :)
The download is UP on the post now. Go update your Clouds, and then continue to report bugs here. Bugs from version 2.0a will be ignored from here on out. Our goal is to make sure he doesn't freeze your game. We'll talk about making him balanced after that. ;)
why does it still say 2.0a and not 2.0a2?
I did compose a couple things to go with the Cloud moveset hack.
Portrait Edit (big & small)
(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/7742/cloudbig.png) (http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/1346/cloudsmall.png)
CSS Edit
(http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/6260/cloudcssface.png) (http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/4939/cloudname.png) (http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/8071/cloudcssname.png)
Match Name Edit
(http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/4978/cloudnamematch.png)
i found and issue/glitch when you get a metalbox, in your metal form cloud has a cape, heres a pic:
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7707/62432109.jpg
and yes, im using the newest version.
I might want to add something: He eventually freezes with Pit, Link, and Jigglypuff also. (NTSC)
Quote from: Thunder Ztar on March 14, 2010, 08:23:26 PM
i found and issue/glitch when you get a metalbox, in your metal form cloud has a cape, heres a pic:
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7707/62432109.jpg
and yes, im using the newest version.
Not a glitch. it just happens. They can't hex those off or it'll cause problems with other characters. It doesn't hurt anything do get used to it.
And since I'm here and surprisingly no one else has said this. (Slow people ¦D)
1. Cross-Slash. Second attack lasts too long and lets enemies escape before the third hit can connect. Change the Synchronous Timer for Attack12 to either 4 frames.
2. Climhazard. ...Well it just doesn't look like it's working right. It's either the attack or the animation, but it just looks weird O_o'
3. Braver. Only a suggestion this time, but how about changing the trajectory so it's a spike? It kind makes more sense with the move, especially since it's similar to the Dissidia one. :3
And the main and most annoying thing, Finishing Touch. I'm sure you're already working on it, but I'm annoyed that no one else has pointed this out. -~-'
It's cool that he actually launches off the ground now and even goes higher into the air, thanks for that. Unfortunately, he teleports back down tot he ground if you use it grounded, and he'll teleport down and back up really fast if you use it in the air. The real problem though is that the hitboxes don't work correctly with it now. Not sure how you would fix that though.
Another tidbit of info, the hitboxes from SpecialHi2 seem to be overriding the ones for SpecialHi3. It's like no matter what changes you make to SpecialHi3, the settings for the hits in Hi2 will always be the ones to hit. Of course I can only tell this because I gave him back the Up-B animations he had from the previous version. Again, no clue how you would fix this. (Nevermind, that's not even the problem. I don't get this one at all XD;; But the enemy will always be sent up I guess.)
That's about all though. Doing a great job so far you guys. :3 And I guess sorry for taking a peek inside the moveset, but I was really curious of how some things were done. Helps me learn more, ya know? ¦D
Edit: One more thing, you've already talked about nerfing the Fire moves, but how about increasing the charge time a bit? They do kinda charge too fast with you think about it. o_o'
Edit2: Okay...There's also a glitch to where Cloud will sometimes get stuck in a loop of Climhazard's dashing animation. It rarely happens though, and I haven't a clue how it happens either. O.o
OK, I might as well give some feedback on the moveset. Personally, I think he's a bit overpowered. Neutral B in the air does 28 damage instantly, so that should be nerfed to, say, 15, because of combo potential. I agree with the braver spike from Wave, and the charging time. All together, just give him a little less power and knockback, and he'll be great.
RockXero has the right ideas. Though don't try to balance him so much that he's underpowered and can't KO at all. Underpowered is way more annoying than overpowered. x_x
And just in case anyone wants it, and to keep this topic on the first page, I'll post Cloud's alt colors here. :3
QuoteI'll keep this one short and sweet. I made some recolors for the new Cloud release, along with CSPs, battle portraits and a new icon to go along with them. There's Red, Blue, Green, Yellow/Gold, and Black.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/al_100315_0127binout.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/al_100315_01271binout.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/al_100315_01272binout.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/al_100315_0234binout.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/al_100315_01311binout.jpg)
Here's what the icon, CSPs and portraits look like.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/cloudicon.png)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/cloud4mini.png)(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/cloud4.png) (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/cloud4redmini.png)(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/cloud4red.png) (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/cloud4bluemini.png)(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/cloud4blue.png)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/cloud4greenmini.png)(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/cloud4green.png) (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/cloud4yellowmini.png)(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/cloud4yellow.png) (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/cloud4blackmini.png)(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/cloud4black.png)
http://www.mediafire.com/?tiddgjkyojg
Everything is already put together for you. The only things you need to add yourself are the CSPs for the actual CSS and the icon. Rather than replacing the pictures one by one, use the MiscData[33].brres in the rar and replace the original in your common5.pac or sc_character.pac that has Ike's CSPs. (For those who don't know for whatever reason, it's in the char_tex_bust_lz77)
With the icon, just replace Ike's in MiscData[70] (No, it's not in the char_tex_bust_lz77). It'll be MenSelchrChrFace.034.
That's all, have fun. :3
Quote from: Thunder Ztar on March 14, 2010, 08:23:26 PM
i found and issue/glitch when you get a metalbox, in your metal form cloud has a cape, heres a pic:
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7707/62432109.jpg
and yes, im using the newest version.
that isn't an issue/glitch, the cape appear because the cape is there, just invisible, if wi remove the cape, appear the Lucario/DK/ZSS glitch, because is there
Quote from: Wave Kusanagi on March 15, 2010, 06:06:23 PM
RockXero has the right ideas. Though don't try to balance him so much that he's underpowered and can't KO at all. Underpowered is way more annoying than overpowered. x_x
And just in case anyone wants it, and to keep this topic on the first page, I'll post Cloud's alt colors here. :3
QuoteI'll keep this one short and sweet. I made some recolors for the new Cloud release, along with CSPs, battle portraits and a new icon to go along with them. There's Red, Blue, Green, Yellow/Gold, and Black.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/al_100315_0127binout.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/al_100315_01271binout.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/al_100315_01272binout.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/al_100315_0234binout.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/al_100315_01311binout.jpg)
Here's what the icon, CSPs and portraits look like.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/cloudicon.png)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/cloud4mini.png)(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/cloud4.png) (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/cloud4redmini.png)(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/cloud4red.png) (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/cloud4bluemini.png)(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/cloud4blue.png)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/cloud4greenmini.png)(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/cloud4green.png) (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/cloud4yellowmini.png)(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/cloud4yellow.png) (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/cloud4blackmini.png)(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/cloud4black.png)
http://www.mediafire.com/?tiddgjkyojg
Everything is already put together for you. The only things you need to add yourself are the CSPs for the actual CSS and the icon. Rather than replacing the pictures one by one, use the MiscData[33].brres in the rar and replace the original in your common5.pac or sc_character.pac that has Ike's CSPs. (For those who don't know for whatever reason, it's in the char_tex_bust_lz77)
With the icon, just replace Ike's in MiscData[70] (No, it's not in the char_tex_bust_lz77). It'll be MenSelchrChrFace.034.
That's all, have fun. :3
Can someone just make one of these with all the stuff? For the mac people? Because really, I want Ike to be fully replaced.
...What're you talking about? All the stuff is right there. O_o'
i mean a common5
Quote from: mnsg on March 14, 2010, 05:48:39 PM
Match Name Edit
(http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/4978/cloudnamematch.png)
Hi, Where exactly do you put that image?
I already searched everywhere I think that would fit, and I didn't find an archive to put this, help please and thanks in advance.
You put it in info.pac.
Good luck getting it to work though. It's rather iffy. XD
3 questions:
1) Does the model replace 1 Ike, or all?
2) If 1 Ike, Could somebody please make the KH1 and Advent Children Costumes?
3) will somebody be changing the FE Victory theme to suit Cloud? mainly because it feels strange that A final Fantasy Character's Victory is celebrated with music OTHER than the Classic FF Victory theme...
Quote from: TheHeroZack on March 16, 2010, 02:15:14 PM
3 questions:
1) Does the model replace 1 Ike, or all?
2) If 1 Ike, Could somebody please make the KH1 and Advent Children Costumes?
3) will somebody be changing the FE Victory theme to suit Cloud? mainly because it feels strange that A final Fantasy Character's Victory is celebrated with music OTHER than the Classic FF Victory theme...
ill import my AC costume and make it downloadable on wednesday for those who can not do it on their own.
@cannon 98 and Jack.H, i mustve downloaded the older one JUST before you posted the newer one XD, lol it was all a matter of bad luck i guess..
@cannon 98, i guess i can think about it like that, like i said, im so used to ike's moveset over the model. either way, i think you should make him move forward a bit when he uses his side smash, like wolf does XD
either way, this is still just the first alpha, im sure you guys will make many improvements along the way to perfection :D
Well, I'm quite stnned by how good this release is.
Only glitches I found involved the side-B. I'm pretty sure I've managed a few times to land two Aerial Side-Bs in a row, without colliding with everything (not even a dodging opponent).
And when I tried to spam it and see if I could reproduce it, I stumbled upon the same glitch as Wave Kusanagi : infinite sword trust pose.
PAL version. File Patch Code v3.5.1A. Four characters match (Cloud, Samus, Yoshi and Marth). Happenned near the end of the match. At 5 or 6 minutes, I guess.
My review and opinions :
This character feels really great to play as a whole. A lot of moves that are really interesting and easy to pull off. I also really like the model, and all the shiny pretty green effets. They are really epic. However, I see some issues of unbalance on a few moves, so I'll do it in detail.
Note : No, I'm not a big [censored]bag for complaining about all and everything. No, I didn't hate this moveset because of all these things below. I found it as one on the most accurate, original, pretty and flexible movesets I've ever tested. So all these are basically nitpicks based on what I've felt when playing it, and little modifications that I think would make it the best Hack ever. ;DNow, if you'll excuse me, here's the huge blabbering:
Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.
Fiu, alright. Hope it helped. :)
Up-B ground version spikes people recovering from under the blade pretty often.
Quote from: TheHeroZack on March 16, 2010, 02:15:14 PM
1) Does the model replace 1 Ike, or all?
2) If 1 Ike, Could somebody please make the KH1 and Advent Children Costumes?
3) will somebody be changing the FE Victory theme to suit Cloud? mainly because it feels strange that A final Fantasy Character's Victory is celebrated with music OTHER than the Classic FF Victory theme...
1) The texture itself with the hair and sword is all 1 Ike texture model, so you don't have to worry about having a regular Ike Costume altered.
2) Wavekusanagi posted a Kingdom Hearts costume earlier in this thread (page 7 for those who want to see the screenshot), http://www.mediafire.com/?oxddjejorgn (http://www.mediafire.com/?oxddjejorgn)
3) tjmsrubegoldberg made a song pack for that:
http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=818.0 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=818.0)
The first part of the FF7 fanfare is used for the Victory theme, which is included in the pack.
Actually Shadow already made one too. It even loops and everything. XD
Quote from: dingoberriz on March 16, 2010, 05:42:50 PM
Up-B ground version spikes people recovering from under the blade pretty often.
Wow, I'd never have imagined. oÔ
Then I guess I found the use for the grounded Up-B. :)
Updated the first post with the new release that was placed onto the blog post. Should fix most animation issues. Check the blog comments for a time frame of when to expect the next few updates.
I must say that playing with the 2.0a2 is an absolute blast. The vertex/texture hack is now PERFECT. Many of the animation are just awesome. Although room for minor tweaks and adjustments (in due time), Cloud rocks and I thank you.
Just wondering, any chance of later builds incorporating the cloud waiting stance? That's the one thing I reeeally wanna see, just curious if its being considered or in the works.
Also voice and sound effects. I've read they are rather hard to do, just curious if there's any update or slight morsel on the subject.
Great work, you guys are AMAZING.
it's odd...Cloud actually sounds BETTER with Ike's Voice...it strips him of that Emo vibe I hate so much...
I couldn't agree more. I never was a fan of his English voice, and I only like his Japanese one because it's the same person who does Haseo's Japanese voice from .hack//G.U.
I'm playing Brawl with Japanese voices and Cloud sounds great with Ike's voice there too. XD
I finally test the PSA, and I have to say that is ovrpowered
a lot of knockback when attack, no landlag on air attacks an other things, Ill write a review of the PSA later
has anyone yet completed the CSP and Name for the Cloud costume pack? if so please post it soon if not, I have a request. Could someone please make those CSPs Except have a Zack Icon for costume03 and a KH1 Cloud Icon for Costume05.
I would do it myself, but I have NO Idea how to... Thanks in advance for anyone willing/kind enough to do this!
...How slow can you people get? -_-'
Someone else has already done the name stuff, and I posted my CSP on the PREVIOUS PAGE.
Try looking through the thread before talking, seriously. Are you THAT lazy? >_>
And there hasn't been a new version for Zack and KH Cloud yet, so there's no point in making CSPs.
I downloaded your pack, and I have the portraites, and the AfterBattle Icon, only the name and CSPs remained unchanged.
also, I checked the last 2 pages and I saw No link for the CSPs so please don't jump to harshness...
Quote from: TheHeroZack on March 18, 2010, 12:31:13 AM
I downloaded your pack, and I have the portraites, and the AfterBattle Icon, only the name and CSPs remained unchanged.
also, I checked the last 2 pages and I saw No link for the CSPs so please don't jump to harshness...
The CSPs and everything are in the download, you only have to search better (in the common5.pac)
Quote from: TheHeroZack on March 18, 2010, 12:31:13 AM
I downloaded your pack, and I have the portraites, and the AfterBattle Icon, only the name and CSPs remained unchanged.
also, I checked the last 2 pages and I saw No link for the CSPs so please don't jump to harshness...
...You're f***ing stupid, you know that?
You don't see the CSPs in the download because I already put the files together for you! You're going to have to put the MiscData file and the icon into the common5 or sc_character yourself using BrawlBox. And if you want a name, someone else already did that and you'll find it in the CSP section of the forum.
Edit: Here, you lazy crybaby. >_>
http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=5161.0
Also, if you were smart, you could've just saved the CSPs in that very post and put them int here using BrawlBox that way. It's VERY easy, even a braindead monkey could do it. >_>
Way to be cool Wave. Shadow would be proud. (b^_^)b
@sfwhateverbull[censored]
One sarcastic [censored] is enough thank you. Stay off my turf and go back to lurking. ¦3
Ah, I will apologize to you though Hero. I did go a little overboard. I love being nice to people but I love being an ass sometimes just the same. It's not even a bipolar thing this time, I just deemed you stupid and treated you as such. XD
So yeah, it was a little much. Sorry if I hurt your feelings, okay? :3
If I didn't, when the yippee-ki-yay. XD
I'm sorry...I have no Idea how this brawl hacking thing works...
that and I'm using a SCHOOL computer, I don't think that the teachers will let me install Brawlbox =P
You don't "Install" BrawlBox silly, you just download it. XD
But there ARE certain things that Windows needs to be updated with for it to work so...yeah. It may ro or may not work for you. XD
well, before this thread get the off-topic or flame flags, I must know: how is the progress on the advent childen costume. I know you hinted about it, but how is it comming out?
Chill out, Wave ... There are some comments here that I would have gladly moderated if they had been directed to me. :-\
If you don't have the patience to deal with newbies, then please let someone else take care of them. Yelling at them won't solve anything.
sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the pack you linked just causes the *Bleeeep* Freeze when I get to the CSS
Wave has issues...
Then again, when the red dot visits, many ladies do.
Quote from: TheHeroZack on March 18, 2010, 06:22:32 PM
sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the pack you linked just causes the *Bleeeep* Freeze when I get to the CSS
I didn't mean for you to download the pack silly. Just right click the pictures and save them, then put them in a fresh common5 if you don't have your own already. Easy. o_o
Ah, and ignoring the silly [censored] above me, sorry about that Miacis. Bad day + annoyed with constant questions that shouldn't need answering. I'll try to keep a lid on that. :3
If you mean using Brawlbox or something to put the pictures in, I can't...to keep my sister from doing something stupid, I can't run outside programs...IT SUCKS!
Due to only knowing women who are proficient in science, technology and computers all of my life, I can only imagine how the exact opposite must be for you. -~-;
I'm gonna just do what I should've done in the first place and give you a file with the stuff in there. Here ya go. :3
http://www.mediafire.com/?ylwnyz4zzd2
Put this file in pf/menu2. Not pfmenu2, but pf/menu2.
And since I got a nice nap in and am in better thinking now, I sincerely apologize for how rude and childish I was earlier. There's really no excuse for it so I won't try to make one, I'm simply sorry. T_T;
Now there's the Wave we all love! :D
thank you! I will test it when I get home!
...Did he ever test it? o_o
*slides into door of post like Kramer*
who knows? im sure we will find out soon though XD
I did, it works fine. Don't judge me as this is just my opinion, I think the colors are too vibrant and don't really go well with Cloud. Also, the black costume is too much like his standard costume. If it was made more like Dark Link or something, I believe it would be a better costume. Other than that, everything works fine. You don't have to listen to me if you don't want to since all you wanted to know was if it was okay. My very last suggestion is that we actually use in-game pics of him for his CSP so he blends in better with the other characters and looks more natural. So yeah, that's all I really have to say on it.
The CSP's work great! sorry if I took so long, it's just Cloud is so much fun to use!
Sorry if this has been asked but is this balanced in Brawl+ or vBrawl?
most likely not, this is still a working character, "brawl-+-ifying" him will take some time.
Slow down his idle motion.. he looks like he's on crack, make his animations smoother, I think that's the most important thing to do at the moment because most of them are REALLY choppy (Climhazzard is a good example), personally I don't think that Fire/Fira/Firaga suits cloud, I mean it really has nothing to do Cloud himself, If you can find someway to change the blade beam attack blue then that would make it a lot more "Cloud" like... and you should have to charge that attack too because it's rather overpowered. Actually the entire attack hack is rather over powered, tone it done a little. Even though there are some obvious flaws I have to say this is one of my favorite attack hacks, just keep working on it and you'll have it perfect soon.
Also I think you should make better taunts. Cuz seriously wtf? One of them is him falling down and like.... what playing dead or something? Come on.
@apprentice, but thats funny :D
i agree with you partway.. i feel as though some attacks could use either some nerfing or slowed down, ike was a heavy character, i dont think cloud should stray too far from ike.
i think the biggest problem is that he has no recoil after moves... therefore making it easy to chain or spam. his side B is a good example, not that its easy to chain, but i could get away with doing it 3 times, then using fira to finish it off against a heavier character, which i see as being a little too op.
the only one that i feel has the correct timing is the down A on the ground. speaking of down A's, using his areial is suicide :D, though i have hit an opponent with it on the way down, it feels so good to win the match like that, its almost cheap but at the same time its hard as hell to hit anything that quickly with it XD
Cloud's most recent release is now available in BrawlVault.
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=3684&Moderated=All
Hello Jack! Today I made an animation for Cloud's waiting, I wanted a new one. ;D
It's only one frame and I don't know if you planed to change his waiting animation but if you like it I can give it to you.
(http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy134/Yavanna_Eldar/Cloud.png)
PS : I did it only for fun, my intention was not to take credit or anything. I wanted to test brawl box, it's the first animation I have made.
PPS : while I made that I realised how long making all of these animation must have been, I want to thank again all the team that worked on the project. :)
Yeah animating is time consuming. And there are times where what you see in brawlbox doesn't actually happen in-game.
Well I can't test it, I don't have my wii and I won't have it before this summer... :(
@Jack H. If you want (and if you're interested) I can try to complete his wait1.
when does version 2.00000123155436688846894123a come out?
(enough with these silly decimals)
@oizenX, sorry to go off topic, but where did you get your brawlvault sig?
@feanor, DO WANT!! :D
@CR4CK3RW0LF
http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=6597.0
That's the thread.
Ya Know, I just realized something...Why hasn't anyone attempted to make the Advent Children costume for Cloud yet?
secondly, I realized that the Moveset/animations need a little work...
1)Cloud's Sword goes through his head when using Fire/a/ga and his Death taunt
2)side taunt...My goodness...That hand must be a ghost or something...
3)Final Smash: Remove the Flame from the sword on the intro swing, but replace the Explosive slashes (Maybe tinted green or blue like in Dissidia). Also, Make the animation different. the "warping" makes the attack look sloppily done.
4) Meteorain needs to be reworked. it is nearly impossible to use! Extend the range and pop Cloud up a bit to make the move a bit more usable
Quote from: Feanor on March 31, 2010, 09:07:18 PM
Hello Jack! Today I made an animation for Cloud's waiting, I wanted a new one. ;D
It's only one frame and I don't know if you planed to change his waiting animation but if you like it I can give it to you.
(http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy134/Yavanna_Eldar/Cloud.png)
PS : I did it only for fun, my intention was not to take credit or anything. I wanted to test brawl box, it's the first animation I have made.
PPS : while I made that I realised how long making all of these animation must have been, I want to thank again all the team that worked on the project. :)
That is very impressive. I would like to try it out.
imo, cloud is a bit overpowered.... but hes a cool character otherwise
i think its about as close to a legit psa as you can get as far as ive seen... this is coming from a guy who hasnt seen to many. hopefully it will catch the eye of brawl+ people and they can refine it a little :D
Quote from: Feanor on March 31, 2010, 09:07:18 PM
Hello Jack! Today I made an animation for Cloud's waiting, I wanted a new one. ;D
It's only one frame and I don't know if you planed to change his waiting animation but if you like it I can give it to you.
(http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy134/Yavanna_Eldar/Cloud.png)
PS : I did it only for fun, my intention was not to take credit or anything. I wanted to test brawl box, it's the first animation I have made.
PPS : while I made that I realised how long making all of these animation must have been, I want to thank again all the team that worked on the project. :)
Personally, I really like it. If you want to finish it, that's up to you. However, if we add a new Wait animation, the transition from every move to wait position will look a little twitchy, but I MIGHT be able to fix this. Not sure. Still, I approve of this. =D
Thank you Fade! :)
I have aleady finished it but not ported to the other animations yet. Jack has still not answered so I prefer to wait before doing that.