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    « Reply #5820 on: May 20, 2013, 06:41:46 PM »


    Except It's not a hack because there's no download link for It.
    Well it's a joke submission to the vault, their is no rules against it. But as I was stating, this "person" that TokoyamiTheDark spoke about that got banned for a hack that was a joke. Because u can't banned off of doing that. So this "person" might have been banned for something else.
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    « Reply #5821 on: May 20, 2013, 06:45:10 PM »


    Well it's a joke submission to the vault, their is no rules against it. But as I was stating, this "person" that TokoyamiTheDark spoke about got banned for hack that was a joke. Because u can't banned off of doing that. So this "person" might have been banned for something else.
    Yes, that must be it. My pal never told me the full story, so he might not have told me the real reason why the guy I'm mentioning got banned...but I didn't knew that there was no rules against jokes, so I'm sorry if I took that too seriously Sad
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    « Reply #5822 on: May 20, 2013, 06:46:04 PM »


    Well it's a joke submission to the vault, their is no rules against it.

    You don't understand, there's no rule against joke submissions, but It should still be removed because there is no hack to download.

    Nevrmind, there is now.
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    « Reply #5823 on: May 20, 2013, 07:45:26 PM »


    Are there rules against joke reports, then?

    I've seen several hacks I thought of a wisecrack to throw at it, but, in my mind, it is inappropriate to report something just because you want a joke to be heard (or read).  Kinda [censored]ish if there was an actual problem with the hack and a joke report just sits over the hack indefinitely...
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    « Reply #5824 on: May 20, 2013, 10:07:17 PM »


    Are there rules against joke reports, then?

    I've seen several hacks I thought of a wisecrack to throw at it, but, in my mind, it is inappropriate to report something just because you want a joke to be heard (or read).  Kinda [censored]ish if there was an actual problem with the hack and a joke report just sits over the hack indefinitely...
    Well joke reports on a joke hack is fine I think. But when it comes to a real hack. People can get in trouble for even doing one. I seen many joke reports before on hacks. Most of them aren't even funny. So their automatically removed by the Brawl Vault staff. :/
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    « Reply #5825 on: May 21, 2013, 01:14:38 AM »


    Yes, that must be it. My pal never told me the full story, so he might not have told me the real reason why the guy I'm mentioning got banned...but I didn't knew that there was no rules against jokes, so I'm sorry if I took that too seriously Sad

    You really shouldn't listen to people who "don't tell the full story". The staff here isn't a bunch of stuck-up, irresponsible idiots. If he got banned for a "joke hack", the hack was either directly insulting someone, or a theft, or anything else prohibited by both the forum and BV rules.

    Are there rules against joke reports, then?

    I've seen several hacks I thought of a wisecrack to throw at it, but, in my mind, it is inappropriate to report something just because you want a joke to be heard (or read).  Kinda [censored]ish if there was an actual problem with the hack and a joke report just sits over the hack indefinitely...
    The thing is, a report means "something is wrong with this hack". There is a reason why there are special filters on the vault that allow users to filter out Reported hacks. So whenever you're reporting a hack, you basically remove it from the Vault for a bunch of people. You also make it impossible for anyone to report a legit problm with that hack.
    I mean, it's a little bit like calling 911 to make a prank. It's not like the problem is you having a sense of humor, but more like you're holding the line when someone might actually need it.  Undecided
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    « Reply #5826 on: May 21, 2013, 08:40:53 AM »


    That's precisely how I viewed the subject, Miacis.  I just wasn't sure whether joke reporting a joke mod would be any different.  I mean, if someone actually liked the joke mod but found a problem with how it worked, then I guess that would put me in the same boat had I joke reported it myself (not even sure what joke to make about this one in particular, it was kinda grotesque of a texture and not really something that appealed to my sense of humor, but that's irrelevant).

    Hm... Maybe I should spoiler this for the sake of people who tl;dr:

    I mean, I may have seen a joke mod or five I thought were pretty interesting.  And even if those in particular were buried beneath countless other hacks over time, there's still the possibility of something actually worth reporting about the hack.  I'm sure you know about the increasing number of lost hacks due to file deletions (won't say that Mediafire is the only offender).

    If some new user that likes to prank his friends with these joke mods, and sees that they are lost to the depths of the internet, and joke reports are present on them, he/she is likely to complain somewhere in this forum (not necessarily in this topic, either).  This creates tension between people who know where to post this kind of stuff, the BV staff that have to deal with issues arising from the tension, and the natural frustration that the new user cannot download the hacks he/she wants and gets ground up for making the issue known.

    Like you said, Miacis, the report function is used to report ISSUES with hacks working at all.

    Zelia, I do see eye to eye with you on the harmlessness of joke reports on joke mods, but in the long run, it's not gonna be so harmless if that joke mod is not maintained.  I get the sudden urge to crack a joke so many times anywhere, and often I get reprimanded because the joke just wasn't said right or the joke went into an entirely different direction for discussion.

    I would think it'd be a little less quite a problem if the joke were made through PM or in the thread where it was announced uploaded to the Vault.  That's just my way of thinking.  It doesn't change the outcome either way.  The joke will get old and skimmed over as time passes.

    tl;dr Jokes reports to joke mods are harmless until they prevent legitimate reports from being submitted from those who care.
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    « Reply #5827 on: May 21, 2013, 03:32:26 PM »


    Er, so is adding joke hacks against the rules or not? I see that you guys were already discussing the very thing that I came here to report/ask about. I really think that it should be, since it just clutters the site and adds literally no content. It's not even a poorly-made result of an honest effort, because even those hacks may have some value to somebody.
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    « Reply #5828 on: May 21, 2013, 04:09:35 PM »


    Er, so is adding joke hacks against the rules or not? I see that you guys were already discussing the very thing that I came here to report/ask about. I really think that it should be, since it just clutters the site and adds literally no content. It's not even a poorly-made result of an honest effort, because even those hacks may have some value to somebody.

    how is reporting my hack for saying its a joke and that its bad a valid report?
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    « Reply #5829 on: May 21, 2013, 04:16:35 PM »


    Er, so is adding joke hacks against the rules or not? I see that you guys were already discussing the very thing that I came here to report/ask about. I really think that it should be, since it just clutters the site and adds literally no content. It's not even a poorly-made result of an honest effort, because even those hacks may have some value to somebody.
    (Referring to the person that reports): Of course it is against the rules. A report is a report, not a joke. Now, what do you want us to do? Remove the joker's reporting rights? We can't be that strict. So it's just a matter of fixing the report, and if the joker has been brought up enough, then actions as removing their reporting rights can be taken. Nothing else than that, really.

    (Referring to the person that submits a joke hack): Hack is deleted upon detection. This has not been the first joke hack on the Vault.

    Any questions?
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    « Reply #5830 on: May 21, 2013, 06:28:46 PM »


    Any questions?
    No, but I wasn't even talking about joke reports at all. I was making what I considered to be a valid report on what appeared to be a joke submission by a user who is otherwise shown to be capable of making higher quality hacks.
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    « Reply #5831 on: May 21, 2013, 06:31:39 PM »


    No, but I wasn't even talking about joke reports at all. I was making what I considered to be a valid report on what appeared to be a joke submission by a user who is otherwise shown to be capable of making higher quality hacks.
    I know. I just wanted to clear both sides and quoted you for the heck of it. Tongue

    So, if there are no more questions, let's move on from this subject. Smiley
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    « Reply #5832 on: May 21, 2013, 11:47:29 PM »


    Question about the Vault. The thing that shows in the center of the BV page, that one with the facebook updates. If I remember correctly, before, it used to show a preview picture of the hack or the first image of the post it linked to. Now it only shows a blueish square with the name of the post and the preview text. Is there any reason for this? Was there a software update and now this is what it does? cause I kind of liked the one before.
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    « Reply #5833 on: May 22, 2013, 02:47:08 PM »


    so one thing i have noticed and it kinda makes searching for stages a little difficult... (well not for me but for pal users) i guess it's not a big deal but shouldn't stages be put over their base stage? an example would be... http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=23417

    the base of the stage is not pirate ship... just an included .rel to go on pirate ship... (which is useless because you can just go to that website in the resources section and make a .rel for any stage)...

    i would imagine this would be an insane amount of moderating to find EVERY SINGLE stage that is in the wrong spot... but still... just seems like this needs to be resolved...
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    « Reply #5834 on: May 25, 2013, 03:17:33 PM »


    http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=32180&Moderated=All&facebook=true

    Saw something very similar to this on a Japanese MMD website app. 3 weeks ago, however, since I can't seem to find the URL anymore to compare both models, I might be wrong... I DID NOT reported it since I could be wrong, like I said, so I'm sorry if this is my error...
    Well if you don't have the proof, why post about it? :/
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