Brawl Vault Problems, Updates, and Suggestions

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May 21, 2013, 12:41:46 AM #5820 Last Edit: May 21, 2013, 12:43:04 AM by Zelia
Quote from: PAVGN on May 21, 2013, 12:34:31 AM
Except It's not a hack because there's no download link for It.
Well it's a joke submission to the vault, their is no rules against it. But as I was stating, this "person" that TokoyamiTheDark spoke about that got banned for a hack that was a joke. Because u can't banned off of doing that. So this "person" might have been banned for something else.
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Quote from: Zelia on May 21, 2013, 12:41:46 AM
Well it's a joke submission to the vault, their is no rules against it. But as I was stating, this "person" that TokoyamiTheDark spoke about got banned for hack that was a joke. Because u can't banned off of doing that. So this "person" might have been banned for something else.
Yes, that must be it. My pal never told me the full story, so he might not have told me the real reason why the guy I'm mentioning got banned...but I didn't knew that there was no rules against jokes, so I'm sorry if I took that too seriously :(
I lost EVERYTHING from my DropBox storage due to the server crashing, so I no longer have my hacks on the Vault... Sorry! :(

Quote from: Zelia on May 21, 2013, 12:41:46 AMWell it's a joke submission to the vault, their is no rules against it.

You don't understand, there's no rule against joke submissions, but It should still be removed because there is no hack to download.

Nevrmind, there is now.
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Are there rules against joke reports, then?

I've seen several hacks I thought of a wisecrack to throw at it, but, in my mind, it is inappropriate to report something just because you want a joke to be heard (or read).  Kinda [censored]ish if there was an actual problem with the hack and a joke report just sits over the hack indefinitely...
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Quote from: Linkxp500 on May 21, 2013, 01:45:26 AM
Are there rules against joke reports, then?

I've seen several hacks I thought of a wisecrack to throw at it, but, in my mind, it is inappropriate to report something just because you want a joke to be heard (or read).  Kinda [censored]ish if there was an actual problem with the hack and a joke report just sits over the hack indefinitely...
Well joke reports on a joke hack is fine I think. But when it comes to a real hack. People can get in trouble for even doing one. I seen many joke reports before on hacks. Most of them aren't even funny. So their automatically removed by the Brawl Vault staff. :/
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Quote from: TokoyamiTheDark on May 21, 2013, 12:45:10 AM
Yes, that must be it. My pal never told me the full story, so he might not have told me the real reason why the guy I'm mentioning got banned...but I didn't knew that there was no rules against jokes, so I'm sorry if I took that too seriously :(

You really shouldn't listen to people who "don't tell the full story". The staff here isn't a bunch of stuck-up, irresponsible idiots. If he got banned for a "joke hack", the hack was either directly insulting someone, or a theft, or anything else prohibited by both the forum and BV rules.

Quote from: Linkxp500 on May 21, 2013, 01:45:26 AM
Are there rules against joke reports, then?

I've seen several hacks I thought of a wisecrack to throw at it, but, in my mind, it is inappropriate to report something just because you want a joke to be heard (or read).  Kinda [censored]ish if there was an actual problem with the hack and a joke report just sits over the hack indefinitely...
The thing is, a report means "something is wrong with this hack". There is a reason why there are special filters on the vault that allow users to filter out Reported hacks. So whenever you're reporting a hack, you basically remove it from the Vault for a bunch of people. You also make it impossible for anyone to report a legit problm with that hack.
I mean, it's a little bit like calling 911 to make a prank. It's not like the problem is you having a sense of humor, but more like you're holding the line when someone might actually need it.  :-\
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May 21, 2013, 02:40:53 PM #5826 Last Edit: May 21, 2013, 02:43:47 PM by Linkxp500
That's precisely how I viewed the subject, Miacis.  I just wasn't sure whether joke reporting a joke mod would be any different.  I mean, if someone actually liked the joke mod but found a problem with how it worked, then I guess that would put me in the same boat had I joke reported it myself (not even sure what joke to make about this one in particular, it was kinda grotesque of a texture and not really something that appealed to my sense of humor, but that's irrelevant).

Hm... Maybe I should spoiler this for the sake of people who tl;dr:

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tl;dr Jokes reports to joke mods are harmless until they prevent legitimate reports from being submitted from those who care.
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Er, so is adding joke hacks against the rules or not? I see that you guys were already discussing the very thing that I came here to report/ask about. I really think that it should be, since it just clutters the site and adds literally no content. It's not even a poorly-made result of an honest effort, because even those hacks may have some value to somebody.

Quote from: hotdogturtle on May 21, 2013, 09:32:26 PM
Er, so is adding joke hacks against the rules or not? I see that you guys were already discussing the very thing that I came here to report/ask about. I really think that it should be, since it just clutters the site and adds literally no content. It's not even a poorly-made result of an honest effort, because even those hacks may have some value to somebody.

how is reporting my hack for saying its a joke and that its bad a valid report?
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May 21, 2013, 10:16:35 PM #5829 Last Edit: May 21, 2013, 10:19:31 PM by Albafika
Quote from: hotdogturtle on May 21, 2013, 09:32:26 PM
Er, so is adding joke hacks against the rules or not? I see that you guys were already discussing the very thing that I came here to report/ask about. I really think that it should be, since it just clutters the site and adds literally no content. It's not even a poorly-made result of an honest effort, because even those hacks may have some value to somebody.
(Referring to the person that reports): Of course it is against the rules. A report is a report, not a joke. Now, what do you want us to do? Remove the joker's reporting rights? We can't be that strict. So it's just a matter of fixing the report, and if the joker has been brought up enough, then actions as removing their reporting rights can be taken. Nothing else than that, really.

(Referring to the person that submits a joke hack): Hack is deleted upon detection. This has not been the first joke hack on the Vault.

Any questions?

Quote from: Albafika on May 21, 2013, 10:16:35 PM
Any questions?
No, but I wasn't even talking about joke reports at all. I was making what I considered to be a valid report on what appeared to be a joke submission by a user who is otherwise shown to be capable of making higher quality hacks.

Quote from: hotdogturtle on May 22, 2013, 12:28:46 AM
No, but I wasn't even talking about joke reports at all. I was making what I considered to be a valid report on what appeared to be a joke submission by a user who is otherwise shown to be capable of making higher quality hacks.
I know. I just wanted to clear both sides and quoted you for the heck of it. :P

So, if there are no more questions, let's move on from this subject. :)

Question about the Vault. The thing that shows in the center of the BV page, that one with the facebook updates. If I remember correctly, before, it used to show a preview picture of the hack or the first image of the post it linked to. Now it only shows a blueish square with the name of the post and the preview text. Is there any reason for this? Was there a software update and now this is what it does? cause I kind of liked the one before.

so one thing i have noticed and it kinda makes searching for stages a little difficult... (well not for me but for pal users) i guess it's not a big deal but shouldn't stages be put over their base stage? an example would be... http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=23417

the base of the stage is not pirate ship... just an included .rel to go on pirate ship... (which is useless because you can just go to that website in the resources section and make a .rel for any stage)...

i would imagine this would be an insane amount of moderating to find EVERY SINGLE stage that is in the wrong spot... but still... just seems like this needs to be resolved...

Quote from: TokoyamiTheDark on May 25, 2013, 08:30:05 PM
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=32180&Moderated=All&facebook=true

Saw something very similar to this on a Japanese MMD website app. 3 weeks ago, however, since I can't seem to find the URL anymore to compare both models, I might be wrong... I DID NOT reported it since I could be wrong, like I said, so I'm sorry if this is my error...
Well if you don't have the proof, why post about it? :/