Clone Engine/Character Porting Q&A/FAQ Thread ***DO NOT REQUEST .RELS!!***

[Eternal Yoshi]

Yes G&W has only one costume slot file.

[Segtendo]

Yes G&W has only one costume slot file.

Alrighty.
Just making sure.
Now my other question...

[Thany]

I found this on the "SUGOI!" Clone Engine" topic. Thankfully it already has the mathematics already done, Mr.Segtendo. (I would not be able to figure it out on my own otherwise, that's for sure :3c  )

(I think it was posted by KazeCoyote)

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4A000000 80AD89E0
1400ZZZZ 000000YY
E0000000 80008000
(YY will be 20 since we are using ike.)

Replace ZZZZ with below
Code:

0000 Mario
0004 Donkey Kong
0008 Link
000C Samus
0010 Yoshi
0014 Kirby
0018 Fox
001C Pikachu
0020 Luigi
0024 Captain Falcon
0028 Ness
002C Bowser
0030 Peach
0034 Zelda
0038 Sheik
003C Popo
0040 (Nana)
0044 Marth
0048 Mr. Game & Watch
004C Falco
0050 Ganondorf
0054 Wario
0058 Metaknight
005C Pit
0060 Zero Suit Samus
0064 Olimar
0068 Lucas
006C Diddy Kong
0070 Pokemon Trainer
0074 Charizard
0078 Squirtle
007C Ivysaur
0080 Dedede
0084 Lucario
0088 Ike
008C Robot
0090 (Pra-mai)
0094 Jigglypuff
0098 (Mewtwo)
009C (Roy)
00A0 (Dr. Mario)
00A4 Toon Link
00A8 (Toon Zelda)
00AC (Toon Sheik)
00B0 Wolf
00B4 (Dixie)
00B8 Snake
00BC Sonic
00C0 Giga Bowser
00C4 Warioman
00C8 Red Alloy
00CC Blue Alloy
00D0 Yellow Alloy
00D4 Green Alloy
00D8 (Mario D)

With this, the digit for Wolf is 00B0. I don't recall what Sonic's digits are though, the ones that fit in the YY space ^__^''''

[Dragoon Fighter]

I have a question, could Cloud or Dante be Ported over one of the 7 empty slots? If so how would I use him on my custom character screen?

[DoctorFlux(Mariodk)]

I have a question, could Cloud or Dante be Ported over one of the 7 empty slots? If so how would I use him on my custom character screen?

you asking for something that is not out yet and never will be

[♤♡◇♧]

you asking for something that is not out yet and never will be

You keep saying that, but there hasn't been an official statement from Dantarion about it.
So until that happens, you can't say for 100% that it will never happen (Dantarion is known to be whimsical with what his interest may be at the time).

[DoctorFlux(Mariodk)]

Dantarion  said he will leave after the project here: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=305507

and it was been many weeks since now it should be ended
and without Dantarion no 7 extra slots  
thats why i keep saying Clone engine project is dead since Dantarion have leaved Brawl hacking
Proof on he leaving:
http://opensa.dantarion.com/wiki/AnimuBrawl
read the first

[♤♡◇♧]

Yes, but do remember that several months ago Dantarion said he would leave, only to return because his interest in Brawl hacking was renewed.
That and the fact the PMBR on occasion still has contact with him, so any progress and/or notes he still has could be given to either me, Eternal_Yoshi or any other coder in the PMBR.

[DoctorFlux(Mariodk)]

Yes, but do remember that several months ago Dantarion said he would leave, only to return because his interest in Brawl hacking was renewed. That and the fact the PMBR on occasion still has contact with him, so any progress and/or notes he still has could be given to either me, Eternal_Yoshi or any other coder in the PMBR.

ok that i dont know (and sure many others)

[Segtendo]

I found this on the "SUGOI!" Clone Engine" topic. Thankfully it already has the mathematics already done, Mr.Segtendo. (I would not be able to figure it out on my own otherwise, that's for sure :3c  )

(I think it was posted by KazeCoyote)

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4A000000 80AD89E0
1400ZZZZ 000000YY
E0000000 80008000
(YY will be 20 since we are using ike.)

Replace ZZZZ with below
Code:

0000 Mario
0004 Donkey Kong
0008 Link
000C Samus
0010 Yoshi
0014 Kirby
0018 Fox
001C Pikachu
0020 Luigi
0024 Captain Falcon
0028 Ness
002C Bowser
0030 Peach
0034 Zelda
0038 Sheik
003C Popo
0040 (Nana)
0044 Marth
0048 Mr. Game & Watch
004C Falco
0050 Ganondorf
0054 Wario
0058 Metaknight
005C Pit
0060 Zero Suit Samus
0064 Olimar
0068 Lucas
006C Diddy Kong
0070 Pokemon Trainer
0074 Charizard
0078 Squirtle
007C Ivysaur
0080 Dedede
0084 Lucario
0088 Ike
008C Robot
0090 (Pra-mai)
0094 Jigglypuff
0098 (Mewtwo)
009C (Roy)
00A0 (Dr. Mario)
00A4 Toon Link
00A8 (Toon Zelda)
00AC (Toon Sheik)
00B0 Wolf
00B4 (Dixie)
00B8 Snake
00BC Sonic
00C0 Giga Bowser
00C4 Warioman
00C8 Red Alloy
00CC Blue Alloy
00D0 Yellow Alloy
00D4 Green Alloy
00D8 (Mario D)

With this, the digit for Wolf is 00B0. I don't recall what Sonic's digits are though, the ones that fit in the YY space ^__^''''

Oh my god. That's EXACTLY What I need.
Thank you.

[Triforce Zelda (Deceased)]

Very interesting what Dant is deciding to do, but like stated above, wait before making any assumptions about his work. I'm really hoping he'll do the Character Expansion and Clone Engine but if he can't well, we can't really do nothin about it except ask for a copy of his progress so we can get some people to finish it

[Carnage]

Eternal yoshi if you can update the pal ice constants they were only right up until a certain point this are the tru pal ic constants
http://www.mediafire.com/?ks1iba3c5vj4qk2

[JediKnightTemplar]

So I'm currently trying to port Roy over Jiggs. However, given I have almost no clue about how to port .rels, I have begun to go through the generic ft_ike.rel and look at the offsets that PW provided in the change.txt that need to be changed to the target module ID and the character module ID. What I'm getting out of what little there is to work off of is that I need to change the values at each of those offsets to the character ID's provided in the txt file, or at the very least the offset for the character module ID, though I don't know . Is this assumption correct (my guess is it isn't, it sounds too easy to me), and if so what are the analogous offsets in the ft_marth.rel?

[IWasAPerson]

Guise, :af2:

I have a really big discovery that I found the other day. I was able to take the No Result Data and No Entry Data codes and condense them to independent character codes. Now you can have Metaknight and Marth ports working properly and keep the entry and result articles for every other character.

I've tested this for most of the characters, but please let me know if these don't work for any particular character. Use these on the character that's replaced, not the base character (Metaknight over Olimar would use a no entry/result code for Olimar).

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Individual Character No Entry Data:
00AD80XX 00000000

XX = Character ID + 0x30

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Individual Character No Result Data:
00AD80YY 00000000

YY = Character ID + 0x68

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Characters IDs:
00 Mario
01 Donkey Kong
02 Link
03 Samus
04 Yoshi
05 Kirby
06 Fox
07 Pikachu
08 Luigi
09 Captain Falcon
0A Ness
0B Bowser
0C Peach
0D Zelda
0E Sheik
0F Popo
10 (Nana)
11 Marth
12 Mr. Game & Watch
13 Falco
14 Ganondorf
15 Wario
16 Metaknight
17 Pit
18 Zero Suit Samus
19 Olimar
1A Lucas
1B Diddy Kong
1C Pokemon Trainer
1D Charizard
1E Squirtle
1F Ivysaur
20 Dedede
21 Lucario
22 Ike
23 Robot
24 (Pra-mai)
25 Jigglypuff
26 (Mewtwo)
27 (Roy)
28 (Dr. Mario)
29 Toon Link
2A (Toon Zelda)
2B (Toon Sheik)
2C Wolf
2D (Dixie)
2E Snake
2F Sonic
30 Giga Bowser
31 Warioman
32 Red Alloy
33 Blue Alloy
34 Yellow Alloy
35 Green Alloy
36 (Mario D)

And here's some example codes:

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Mario Has No Entry Data:
00AD8030 00000000

Mario Has No Result Data:
00AD8068 00000000

Olimar Has No Entry Data
00AD8049 00000000

Lucas Has No Entry Data
00AD804A 00000000

King Dedede Has No Entry Data
00AD8050 00000000

Olimar Has No Result Data
00AD8081 00000000

Lucas Has No Result Data
00AD8082 00000000

So, yeah, have fun, and let me know if any of them don't work. You guys should probably start using these codes instead of the previous No Entry/Result data since it's a lot more efficient and it has the benefit of keeping entry and result articles for every other character. And I've gotta thank Dantarion's wiki for giving the information on this to make it possible.

[♤♡◇♧]

A very nice find indeed.