Adding Wind Waker Cell-Shading to your Import.

Started by Spex130, January 09, 2012, 09:44:46 PM

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Oh! Right, right!

What was that about the pictures, though?


I was saying I could upload pictures of examples if you wanted some

Oh! Sure! That would be wonderful!

Just tell me where they should go!


Anywhere you want, I suppose. Although I should probably render the shading on another character, my custom models don't have proper normals for showing off this effect...

February 18, 2012, 08:17:33 AM #20 Last Edit: February 18, 2012, 08:21:37 AM by mr.mugenwii
nice. what about cell-shading with outlines??


Like this:http://myfeldin.com/programming/cellshading.php

Maybe it can be programmed in brawlbox later

I've rendered my models with outlines, it's as simple as duplicating the model, enlarging it, and turning on cullface inside. And working the cell shading works with it too, although I reccomend having a separate shader so the outline isn't cell-shaded as well.

Quote from: Xiggah on February 18, 2012, 09:41:29 AM
I've rendered my models with outlines, it's as simple as duplicating the model, enlarging it, and turning on cullface inside. And working the cell shading works with it too, although I reccomend having a separate shader so the outline isn't cell-shaded as well.

Xiggah's right. It's that simple.

Honestly though, I don't think anything more than Auto-Metal should be added. If EVERYTHING is cell-shaded because it's that easy, the effect loses it's prominence because it doesn't take any work to add it.


Quote from: Xiggah on February 18, 2012, 09:41:29 AM
I've rendered my models with outlines, it's as simple as duplicating the model, enlarging it, and turning on cullface inside. And working the cell shading works with it too, although I reccomend having a separate shader so the outline isn't cell-shaded as well.
im lost here...
i mean that duplicate part. do you mean clone in 3ds max?

Quote from: mr.mugenwii on February 19, 2012, 02:29:30 AM
im lost here...
i mean that duplicate part. do you mean clone in 3ds max?

Yes, we mean in 3DS Max. Although TECHNICALLY speaking, you could be able to export the eye polygons and reimport them as a new polygon and move them in there. But that doesn't feel as well-done as doing it by hand in a modeling program.

On the outline-clone thing, how much bigger should I make the clone? Could I just copy/paste the rig from the original? seeing as its the same thing other than it being bigger?

As for the cell shading, could I use the shaders from an actual Wind Waker model, I kind of want to use that look, since it might be a higher quality shader than the trophy. Or probably the cell shading from CON3 since Lee is actually from that game.

And if possible...could you make a tutorial on making a proper shadow model for imports? You know, for imports that don't come with shadow models? (I mean brawl style shadows)

1)
How big it should be is a matter of preference.  Since it's a clone, you won't really need to edit the Skin Modifier all that much. Just a few tweaks here and there to make sure the outer cell doesn't clip with the inner. (And on that note, it's a bit easier to make an outer Cell AFTER you've rigged it.)

2)
Odds are, you won't be able to use a shader from the ACTUAL Wind Waker game. Diffferent game, different model format. If you really want it to look exact, you can edit the Cell Gradient Texture to make it as you please.

For Rosy the Rascal V2 I edited the Cell Gradient Texture so that it would be more Wind Waker like, as opposed to this Diglett I did which uses the original Cell Gradient Texture and has a bit of a softer side to it.

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3)
I've never done that before. I could try after I've tested a bit, but for now go ask Mewtwo2ooo, who made a custom shadow for his Mewtwo 64 import.


well hopefully the double polygon deal with outlines will not mess with the model(size-wise)
im speaking too soon and needs to experiment.lol

I don't see XF Commands, just XF TexGen Flags.

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