Perfect .Rel porting Progress -Lucario is first Pack. Ganon is new .rel-

[pikazz]

why not both cause I have both the File Replacement code IN riivolution! wouldn't that work?

[SonicBrawler]

why not both cause I have both the File Replacement code IN riivolution! wouldn't that work?

hm. maybe. at some point today i can send you snake and ganon to see if they work

[Carnage]

hm. maybe. at some point today i can send you snake and ganon to see if they work

so snake and ganon already work perfect for gecko users?

[Psycho Philia]

I don't use Riivolution too, so it should work for me too. But I'm thinking about other people, because I know quite a lot of people use Riivolution. After all, it's much easier to have voices with Riivolution. Speaking about voices, what happens with the voices with this system? I suppose the replica and the original character have the same voices unless a specific code?

[Carnage]

I don't use Riivolution too, so it should work for me too. But I'm thinking about other people, because I know quite a lot of people use Riivolution. After all, it's much easier to have voices with Riivolution. Speaking about voices, what happens with the voices with this system? I suppose the replica and the original character have the same voices unless a specific code?

the chars have no sound unless you use a soundbank modifier code of the original char slot you rel ported from is on the match since the sounds ids will be wrong

[Psycho Philia]

Thank you for the answer! So it basically means that if someone originally is on marth and is ported for example on Dedede, you have to make modifications of the sound ID by using Psa. I hope it won't be too hard...

[Carnage]

Thank you for the answer! So it basically means that if someone originally is on marth and is ported for example on Dedede, you have to make modifications of the sound ID by using Psa. I hope it won't be too hard...

not by psa since if you do by psa then lets say you ported roy to dedede(like i have) he will have dedede sounds the best is a code for the gct wich modifies dedede soundbank to be marth so atleast roy has marth sounds if you make it have dedede sounds its better that you have a swandz or roy would look wierd lol

[Psycho Philia]

Hum, yes but if you use a code so that Roy for example on Dedede has Marth's soundbank, it means Roy will have Marth's voice, and if you make a Roy fight against the original Marth, they will have the exact same voice, right? Wouldn't it be weird?  :laugh:

[Carnage]

Hum, yes but if you use a code so that Roy for example on Dedede has Marth's soundbank, it means Roy will have Marth's voice, and if you make a Roy fight against the original Marth, they will have the exact same voice, right? Wouldn't it be weird?  :laugh:

dont see a problem really thats how i have it since it would take someone that makes sounds to make a roy soundpack on DDD ids and then you would have to change almost all the ids on the psa by hand wich is boring to say the least

[XChosenOne1]

dont see a problem really thats how i have it since it would take someone that makes sounds to make a roy soundpack on DDD ids and then you would have to change almost all the ids on the psa by hand wich is boring to say the least

To be honest, SFX ID Changing is a lot of work :-\ (For which i am one myself), and it's true it really is boring :P

there's alot of stuff you have to do for SFX ID Changing

Like say for example Sonic Over DK (refer to my True Sonic) i change the ID's and insert the sounds/Voice Clips, and basically that's it, it's just tiring that you have to re-Change the ID's if you have them mixed up and then it'd be a huge hassle :P

[Chaos_Knight]

we found out a 6 more that can be ported but so far out of all of them only 1 works for riivolution

Is Falcon one of them? I want real Ryu vs Ken and Ryu vs Falcon matches. :srs:

[ShadowWolf]

Is Falcon one of them? I want real Ryu vs Ken and Ryu vs Falcon matches. :srs:

I think Kagemaru was going to make a port without a rel over Ganon but i don't know anymore. If he could, then it would make it easier since Ganon is already 100% working basically

[PhantomWings]

Hai gaiz, y r u stil use codes 4 sound bank modz?  :af:

*shot*

Ahem, it turns out that you can modify sound banks (along with a bunch of other things) inside the sora_melee module (found in common2.pac). Most of this stuff was already documented by Dantarion on the OpenSA website, but it was all in ingame address form. The main points of interest are stored in Section[4], but there's a few interesting things in Section[5] too.

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Section[4]
0x10C0 .pac List
0x119C Kirby Hat .pac List
0x1278 Kirby Hat File Types
0x12B0 Entry File Types
0x12E8 Result File Types
0x1320 .rel list
0x13FC Color Flags
0x14D8 Character Sets
0x18F0 Internal Fighter Name List
0x1B84 Entry Article Data
0x1C60 Sound Banks
0x1E18 MotionEtc File Data

Section[5]
0x2C3A0 IC Constant Sets
0x48B94 Ai Controllers


Each field holds about 55 entries corresponding to each character's internal id. The .rel list and .pac lists are pointers to the strings representing files for a particular character. More info on these can be found on Dant's website here. Of particular interest is the Character Sets(at 0x14D8), which sets which characters are preloaded in the case of Zelda/Sheik or Pokemon Trainer - if there's been any problems with porting those characters, that'd be one of the places to look.

In section[5] I've listed the Ai Controller functions which (if I recall correctly) were one of the things I had issues with back when I was working on the Clone Engine - those need to be adjusted when doing module ports to and from certain characters.

If you want to make modifications to the sora_melee module, you'll need to use the Module Editor 3 - but the last version had a bug in the relocation calculations that corrupted the file, so I've updated it to 3.1 here.


Oh, as a bonus, I think there's a spot in Main.dol at 0x4512E0 (ingame address 0x804551E8) which determines which colors are available for each character in the CSS - but I'm just working off of a vague memory of something long ago and a memory dump of Brawl, so I could be completely wrong. Anyways, if anyone's interested in working on the Masquerade project, you'd need to look for something like that.



Anyways, just thought I'd drop by for the dying days of the Wii era. There's not too many of us left these days - I hear that even BlackJax is gone or has at least gone on reduced activity like me.

[BlackJax96]

Hey PW, do you still have the source code for Module Editor 2?
Could you post that? I don't think you ever released it.
It would be great if you could post the source for 3.1 as well, or at least point out what your bugfix was.

[PhantomWings]

Sure, I've got both.

[Version 2]

[Version 3.1]

2 is very ugly, so you may not find very much that is useful in it. As for 3.1, that was just a small tweak to the ReadRelocations method.