Heya, I wanted to talk about Ness and Lucas if you don't mind.
I wanna talk about them too, the Earthbound series is terribly misrepresented in Smash and the changes I have for them are going to be really exciting; Mother fans will be pleased.
Don't be hesitant about tossing out any suggestions you have! Even though I'm extremely strict about what will make it in, commentary is always welcome and greatly appreciated. I may have TONS of ideas, but here and there I get suggestions that make a LOT of sense.
Ness: I'm going to say to keep his bat and yo-yo because those were his main weapons,
Of course. In fact, one of the highlights of the True Earthbound characters is that they will be featured with their bats/sticks ALWAYS equipped, and their entire moveset will SOLELY utilize their weaponry, instead of PSI like in Smash (excluding the specials of course, which will all be PSI based).
however Ness could also equip a slingshot, maybe make it his new side special?
Oooooh... OOOOOH I totally forgot about his Slingshot! Thanks a ton for the suggestion. However, all of Ness's Specials have been determined, and they are all PSI based. BUT the good news is, I can make his Slingshot his new Up Smash (what about his old Up Smash, you might ask? Perfect for a new UAir).
I'd say make Ness' up-B Teleport but I'm not entirely sure how that would work...
Way ahead of you. Although, like you said, it sounds hard to do.
Another up special could be PK Lifeup where he propels himself very slightly upward while healing himself a bit.
LifeUp will be a taunt, not a special. A very slow, very weak-healing taunt similar to Project M Toon Link's Lon Lon Milk.
Down special could be PK Shield alpha and he places a small shield around him similar to PSI Magnet except it blocks physical attacks seeing as Ness can't learn PSI Magnet.
Down Special will be PSI Flash. It will have a random stun, dizzy, or Luigi Final Smash effect (to emulate Earthbound's "Confusion", provided this is possible). It will also have an extremely negligible chance of K.O.ing the opponent instantly, lololololollolololololllololooool
Maybe you can make his normal attacks also have him hit with his bat somehow, mess around with the animations?
Very easy to do, and already stated.
Another good move is PSI Rockin, Ness' main offensive move in the Earthbound games.
Waaaaay ahead of you. Neutral Special.
As for Lucas
Lucas can also use a yo-yo but his most famous one is the "Spiky Weapon". He also uses sticks instead of bats (although he can equip a bat).
Does Lucas ever use a Yo-Yo? I've played Mother 3, but I can't remember and I don't recall it. Again, his ultimate weapon will be featured.
I say keep Project M's offense up since it's an attack he can actually learn.
I'm afraid this will be kicked in favor of PK Love. I appreciate what Project M was going for but I don't exactly like PSI Offense.
Lucas also has many counter, shield, and power up moves with a little bit of healing.
PSI Counter will be Lucas's Down B. Get hyped, this move will be awesome.
Also, LifeUp will again be a Taunt.
He can also learn PK Flash
Forward B, same properties as Ness.
and PK Love.
Neutral B.
The snake can stay because it's an item that can be given physically to anyone,
Will probably be his new Up B, because PSI Thunder makes absolutely no sense and... I have no idea what else to do for Lucas's recovery.
the PSI teachings feels a little off to me but if you guys wanna give them their SSB moves, be my guest. Because it still makes a lot of sense.
Actually, the PSI teachings aspect of SSB really DOESN'T make sense, and that's why the focus of the Earthbound True hacks will center around giving them their actual abilities. I thought it was lame that the other party members supposedly "taught" Ness and Lucas these attacks just for Smash Bros.
It's also be cool if Lucas' final smash would be pulling the needle and making the map shake violently while everyone gets grounded allowing Lucas to finish them off.
Final Smashes will not be supported. At least till the final updates, and even than I really don't plan on it. I don't play with items on at all.
Whew, that was a lot. Loving the work guys, keep it up!
Thanks! And I wanna make it clear, it's actually just me doing this, there's no team behind this project! There are, of course, minor additions and tweaks and such contributed by other members here and there, and they are being credited accordingly. But most of what you see in these hacks are my own ideas, and my own work.
Dude... I'm really liking what you did with Toon Link. He's cool.
Ferk yeah, thanks man.
I'm thinking about using it as a base for my Wind Waker style TL. But since my old computer died, I have to start over. But Nicely done with TL. WW TL is gonna have Skull Hammer, and Iron Boots and an extra Wind Waker to mess with. If you're interested in helping, let me know.
Go ahead, just credit me for what I did. I would suggest you change the Pegasus Dash to Toon Link's roll, haha. That was my original plan but it was booted in favor of an attack from his 2D appearances. A cooler attack, might I add.
I'd love to help, but I'm REALLY stacked with a lot of other things to do both in terms of hacks and real life. The plans I've laid out for the true project are really intense and I'm just one guy, so I'm afraid my hack-related focus will be on my own project. I hate to be a downer.