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    « Reply #345 on: August 08, 2010, 01:25:09 AM »


    I do. And it doesn't fix it.
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    « Reply #346 on: August 08, 2010, 09:35:22 AM »


    Whenever I try to use the vertices on the model, using the Morpher and the "Pick from scene", I cannot find the vertices to use. I read that this has to do with the script altering the amount of vertices in the original model, thus making it incompatable with the imported vertices,
     but does anyone know how to fix it?

    I'm editing Snake's body, by the way.
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    « Reply #347 on: August 08, 2010, 10:31:14 AM »


    I do. And it doesn't fix it.

    Uh...what are you editing? Are you editing hair or a cape by any chance? D:
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    « Reply #348 on: August 08, 2010, 11:06:39 AM »


    When I try the double patch method, DDVB comes up with a message that says "Errorjava.io.EOFException". It then does everything regularly, but when I replace the model, all of the polygons are gone.
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    « Reply #349 on: August 08, 2010, 11:16:05 AM »


    When I try the double patch method, DDVB comes up with a message that says "Errorjava.io.EOFException". It then does everything regularly, but when I replace the model, all of the polygons are gone.

    EXACTLY what are you doing to double patch?

    Also, don't use DDVB, use Mariokart's script to export verts.
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    « Reply #350 on: August 08, 2010, 11:21:38 AM »


    Oh, yeah. I was using the older method...
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    « Reply #351 on: August 08, 2010, 05:01:01 PM »


    I do. And it doesn't fix it.

    Uh...what are you editing? Are you editing hair or a cape by any chance? D:

    I put up a picture. It happens on most things. Links sword for example.
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    « Reply #352 on: August 08, 2010, 08:43:04 PM »


    Whenever I try to use the vertices on the model, using the Morpher and the "Pick from scene", I cannot find the vertices to use. I read that this has to do with the script altering the amount of vertices in the original model, thus making it incompatable with the imported vertices,
     but does anyone know how to fix it?

    I'm editing Snake's body, by the way.
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    « Reply #353 on: August 08, 2010, 09:13:17 PM »


    How do I see the character's textures while editing the model in 3dsmax? And how to I "change to poly"?
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    « Reply #354 on: August 08, 2010, 09:16:43 PM »


    You have to export all of the textures to the place where the .dae is, I think. And I don't know what you're referencing with "change to poly".
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    « Reply #355 on: August 08, 2010, 09:18:30 PM »


    You have to export all of the textures to the place where the .dae is, I think. And I don't know what you're referencing with "change to poly".

    Won't work. Is it because I'm not in "poly" mode?
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    « Reply #356 on: August 08, 2010, 09:21:08 PM »


    You have to export all of the textures to the place where the .dae is, I think. And I don't know what you're referencing with "change to poly".

    Won't work. Is it because I'm not in "poly" mode?


    Export all the textures in the same folder as the .max file. To change to a poly you could right click the model and select convert to > Edit Poly (something like that). Or with the model/object selected pick Edit Poly from the modifier list.
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    « Reply #357 on: August 08, 2010, 10:14:42 PM »


    I think I just solved the Vish's Guide/Double Patch/Whole Vertexing Thing incident! It's not 100% fail-safe, but it gets us moving the right way. Follow these steps(it seems long, but it really isn't):

    -Export Bres file from BrawlBox
    -Make .dae from Bres file
    -Import .dae and fix with Ais
    -Edit however you want
    -When you're done, open a new scene for 3ds Max
    -Import the .dae and fix with Ais again
    -Export the vertex of the polygon which you edited from BrawlBox(name doesn't matter) and copy its MDL0 Offset
    -Go to the new scene, select the part of the model that you edited in the other scene, and click "Create Patch" on mariokart's script, then click the vertex
    -Go to your edited scene and click "Patch Model", then select the vertex patch
    -After it's done patching, uncheck "Check for MDL0 Offset" box, input the Offset of the vertex, and then click "Export Verts"
    -Export the character model from BrawlBox(again, name doesn't matter) and then select it in 3ds Max
    -Replace the model in BrawlBox with the new one
    -Export the Bres file again
    -Make a new .dae
    -Import it into a new scene in 3ds Max and fix with Ais
    -"Patch Model" again with the same patch as before
    -Export verts and replace the model again
    -Preview it in BrawlBox and it SHOULD be good

    Please post whatever goes wrong, for again this isn't 100% fail-safe.

    EDIT: If anyone does this method until you export the verts and it say "Error! Wrong Offset?", it's because when you apply the patch, a couple of vertices are added. I'm currently working on a way to get past this, so please bear with me for a while.
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    « Reply #358 on: August 09, 2010, 12:53:52 AM »


    I honestly hate pestering people about my problems because I know how annoying it is, but if I can't fix this soon my head is going to explode!

    I can't use face morph to morph objects. It says I'm trying to do a mesh operation on a non mesh or something like that, but isn't that the point? But I shouldn't even need to use this in the first place because I can't morph the mesh into the polygon... even if I DON'T EDIT THE POLYGON!! Which means the number of vertexes should not change.

    And I still can't figure out how to vertex without something going wrong. I'm still the only person who can't do it even while double patching.

    Seriously what the hell?! Somebody help me!
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    « Reply #359 on: August 09, 2010, 07:47:59 AM »


    Ok, For those of you who are having similar to problems to Apprentice Of Death, I need some info...
    First off, Are you using Vish's method?
    Second, What are you trying to edit?

    I think I may of found a solution, but I need some more stuff to test it on before I can say it works perfectly Smiley


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