Vertex Hacking: Advanced Techniques

Started by mariokart64n, May 24, 2010, 04:23:54 PM

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Hi, first at all, great tutorial!... now, I have got a question... I have some models in my pc, and using 3dmax I reduced the vertex to the necesary number (in this case 1462 that is Zero Body) but the problem comes when I use morph, all vertex moves arround and everything is a mess. I was thinking and I tought something kind of obvious (dah!), and it's because each vertex must have a number or something like that and it seems them are no the same number.

Now, I have seen some model imports(over the same bones) such as Krauser, Chrism,etc. and I was wondering how is it done then?... thanks in advance and I hope this question wasn't asked before. thanks

You could try lining up the models, and working in wireframe mode or something... Reshape it until it matches to how you like it...


Hey, I downloaded 3DS Max 11 trial version and I didn't get a key code to activate the product. It won't install 3DS max at all. I can run the installer now, but it won't do anything past that....?

Quote from: Hamzr Bruh on October 09, 2010, 04:05:14 AM
Need help with the Dae thing!
You need to use a unedited .pac file. Try dragging the pac on ais or try  'open with'.

Quote from: NaruZeldaMaster on October 09, 2010, 06:33:58 PM
Hey, I downloaded 3DS Max 11 trial version and I didn't get a key code to activate the product. It won't install 3DS max at all. I can run the installer now, but it won't do anything past that....?

Nothing illegal at all? :P

3ds max 2011 was known not to work good with vertexing, i saw somewhere (i think). Try 3ds max 2010.


Now, as for my question:
I can't seem to make this right... I have the same problem as MarioKart, with Marth's right leg, but double patching doesn't seem to fix it. I have this problem for about a month right now. How'd you fix that??




Quote from: Quanno on October 10, 2010, 09:04:42 PM
Quote from: Hamzr Bruh on October 09, 2010, 04:05:14 AM
Need help with the Dae thing!
You need to use a unedited .pac file. Try dragging the pac on ais or try  'open with'.

Not true, you just need to use a model that hasn't had any polygons removed.

Quote from: Quanno on October 10, 2010, 09:04:42 PM
I can't seem to make this right... I have the same problem as MarioKart, with Marth's right leg, but double patching doesn't seem to fix it. I have this problem for about a month right now. How'd you fix that??

I have the same problem. For things like heads or other things that don't involve arms or legs, I can get them to brawlbox with no errors, but when it comes to exporting arms, legs, feet or hands, the right part of the model (left part if the model is facing towards us), gets messed up, like in the videos, so I "double patch" and it gets even worse ._.

Anyone knows how to solve it? D:

Would it be possible to port ZSS's 'model" over to zelda through vertexing :D if so can someone tell me how

IE: I mean the actual model for the character, not just reshaping zelda, though I'd have to add a polygon for the dress...

Quote from: alexhall on November 01, 2010, 04:32:25 PM
Quote from: Quanno on October 10, 2010, 09:04:42 PM
I can't seem to make this right... I have the same problem as MarioKart, with Marth's right leg, but double patching doesn't seem to fix it. I have this problem for about a month right now. How'd you fix that??

I have the same problem. For things like heads or other things that don't involve arms or legs, I can get them to brawlbox with no errors, but when it comes to exporting arms, legs, feet or hands, the right part of the model (left part if the model is facing towards us), gets messed up, like in the videos, so I "double patch" and it gets even worse ._.

Anyone knows how to solve it? D:
Keep patching?

If it makes it worse, it probably won't help at all, as i had the same problem.

Then I found this video by MarioKart, i followed it exactly and got it to work  ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYXeXMmzlsk

But now I'm at a new problem... see this thread to see what I mean...
http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=15714.0

Anyone?


December 08, 2010, 11:08:37 PM #460 Last Edit: December 10, 2010, 05:00:17 PM by MeleeMaster500
Jigglypuff's body didn't have any work put into its uv map and i'm trying to change it, to give a little more control over the texture. the main issue is jigg's foot's coordinates (and hands and mouth) are occupying the same space as the body.

I'm just wondering if the script has implemented editing the uv coordinates via unwrap uv instead of importing the coordinates themselves ever since the tutorial was made for uv editing. cause it's much easier to isolate the feet coordinates when you can select them from the model itself. If not, that's still good to know.

V. 1.00

Do textures not show up on 3DS MAX 9? Everything else seems to work fine, but the textures won't show up for me. I have exported every texture into the same folder with my dae, yet it still ignores them, leaving me with a randomly colored model in 3ds rather than the textured model. It isn't really stopping me from vertexing, but it would really speed up the process if I could get textures to show.

Quote from: Weyard on December 30, 2010, 02:17:40 AM
Do textures not show up on 3DS MAX 9? Everything else seems to work fine, but the textures won't show up for me. I have exported every texture into the same folder with my dae, yet it still ignores them, leaving me with a randomly colored model in 3ds rather than the textured model. It isn't really stopping me from vertexing, but it would really speed up the process if I could get textures to show.


You could always just drag the texture directly onto the model. Or press "M" to bring up the Materials editor and drag it into it's material slot.

Quote from: Beyond Boobies on December 30, 2010, 02:19:59 AM
Quote from: Weyard on December 30, 2010, 02:17:40 AM
Do textures not show up on 3DS MAX 9? Everything else seems to work fine, but the textures won't show up for me. I have exported every texture into the same folder with my dae, yet it still ignores them, leaving me with a randomly colored model in 3ds rather than the textured model. It isn't really stopping me from vertexing, but it would really speed up the process if I could get textures to show.


You could always just drag the texture directly onto the model. Or press "M" to bring up the Materials editor and drag it into it's material slot.
I tried that, but it just seems to throw the texture on incorrectly. Wolf's arm's for example, it places the texture on them backwards it seems.

HEy i´ve have a question about this vertex methode, is there a way, for example to mirror  one half of the model to the oder side ? im mean for example a shoe that should seen the same like the other shoe? or must i do every part extra??