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RandomTBush has succsesfully Imported Bill's Hat TF2 Into Brawl On Jigglypuff!

Quote from: From RandomTBush. This is from Smash Boards.Alright, if this doesn't prove that I understand the MDL0 format, I don't know what will.




Download link is right here. It'll only work over Jigglypuff's sleep hat, as that's what I rebuilt it over.
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?3yw3zly1znz

THIS IS PROOF THAT THE END OF BRAWL HACKING IS NIGH. (not joking)

Soon we will have hacked EVERYTHING inside Brawl!!

No one payed attention to the Dragon Ball Z ring?

Well honestly I don't know what TF2 is but this is cool :3

Team Fortress is a shoot with teams put simply. AND ITS NOT FOR WII AND RANDOM T BUSH TOLD US HOW HE DID IT!

Quote from: luigiman1928 on February 20, 2010, 05:13:59 AM
Team Fortress is a shoot with teams put simply. AND ITS NOT FOR WII AND RANDOM T BUSH TOLD US HOW HE DID IT!

Looks like a vertex to me.

I looked inside the File for it with my Hex editor, and it doesnt even say MDL0 in it!

Quote from: OizenX on February 20, 2010, 04:39:32 PM

Quote from: luigiman1928 on February 20, 2010, 05:13:59 AM
Team Fortress is a shoot with teams put simply. AND ITS NOT FOR WII AND RANDOM T BUSH TOLD US HOW HE DID IT!

Looks like a vertex to me.

I can assure you that it is not a vertex hack, OizenX. I actually built a new model over the hat.

Don't believe me? Pick any hat from the list on this page (http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Hats), and I'll put it on Jigglypuff's head. Doesn't matter which one.

Quote from: RandomTBush on February 20, 2010, 08:15:31 PM

Quote from: OizenX on February 20, 2010, 04:39:32 PM

Quote from: luigiman1928 on February 20, 2010, 05:13:59 AM
Team Fortress is a shoot with teams put simply. AND ITS NOT FOR WII AND RANDOM T BUSH TOLD US HOW HE DID IT!

Looks like a vertex to me.

I can assure you that it is not a vertex hack, OizenX. I actually built a new model over the hat.

Don't believe me? Pick any hat from the list on this page (http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Hats), and I'll put it on Jigglypuff's head. Doesn't matter which one.

http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Mining_light

Not that I don't believe you I just like that hat.

So do it.

That's awesome. I'm gotta get this :D
Have you ever tried Pikachu?

And my pick is http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Prussian_pickelhaube

Quote from: Edgeworth on February 20, 2010, 09:57:24 PM
That's awesome. I'm gotta get this :D
Have you ever tried Pikachu?

And my pick is http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Prussian_pickelhaube

that on pikachu= win

http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Otolaryngologist%27s_mirror

Please on Mario.

STOVE PIPE HAT!

BONK HAT!

... on Captain Falcon...  Okay, not really.  Those hats would be awesome on anybody.

lol this turned into a request thread. I'm pretty sure he said he'll put it on Jigglypuff guys.

Quote from: LookItsLink on February 21, 2010, 12:21:05 AM
lol this turned into a request thread. I'm pretty sure he said he'll put it on Jigglypuff guys.

I know, but Pikachu needs some love too.

Quote from: LookItsLink on February 21, 2010, 12:21:05 AM
lol this turned into a request thread. I'm pretty sure he said he'll put it on Jigglypuff guys.

Yeah. The main reason I chose Jigglypuff is because it and Pikachu are the only two characters that get new props for alternate costumes. Aaaaand another reason was because one of its alternate costumes has the hat as a separate model (green team / sleep hat). I had originally tried it on a different costume, and... Well, let's just say that after rebuilding the MDL0 to have larger entries, if one thing is not linked properly for whatever reason, it ain't gonna work properly. (I still don't know what went wrong.)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/RandomTalkingBush/SSBB-OopsIBrokeIt.jpg)

Oh, and as for why I chose Bill's hat out of all the ones available in Team Fortress 2... First of all, my real name's Bill, Bill's my favourite character in Left 4 Dead, and it's the only way I'll ever be able to wear that hat (since it's a bonus that you get in TF2 for pre-ordering Left 4 Dead 2, which didn't do). XP

Quote from: Edgeworth on February 20, 2010, 09:57:24 PM
That's awesome. I'm gotta get this :D
Have you ever tried Pikachu?

And my pick is http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Prussian_pickelhaube

Haven't tried anything with Pikachu yet, but I'll try that later.

Quote from: luigiman1928 on February 20, 2010, 11:39:15 PM
http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Otolaryngologist%27s_mirror

Please on Mario.

That would be perfect for the Dr. Mario that's being worked on, so I'll do that at a later time. :)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/RandomTalkingBush/SSBB-MiningLight.png)
One Mining Light, coming right up. I'll test it out in-game as soon as my older brother's finished using the Wii. (He's playing No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle at the moment.)

please do the doctor hat thing.

We only need the model and then we have Dr. Mario in Brawl.

Quote from: RandomTBush on February 21, 2010, 01:28:02 AM
Oh, and as for why I chose Bill's hat out of all the ones available in Team Fortress 2... First of all, my real name's Bill, Bill's my favourite character in Left 4 Dead, and it's the only way I'll ever be able to wear that hat (since it's a bonus that you get in TF2 for pre-ordering Left 4 Dead 2, which didn't do). XP

Then you should have done the ]BILLy[censored] (http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Backbiter's_billy%5Bcensored) it still has your name in it, they look totally awesome, and it's the only way I'll ever be able to wear that hat because i can't find a decent one in real life. XP

Quote from: luigiman1928 on February 22, 2010, 03:32:32 AM
please do the doctor hat thing.

We only need the model and then we have Dr. Mario in Brawl.

None of you realize that Mario would have a huge hole in his head.

His hair is not under his hat except in the taunt.

add the hair in PSA

I assume there'd be a Dr. Mario one anyway.

Thats exactly what i meant.

random? can you please tell me how to do this

Quote from: puls-z0r on February 22, 2010, 11:55:48 PM
random? can you please tell me how to do this

Sure. Lemme go get my post from the SmashBoards.

Quote from: RandomTBushI exported the hat from the original SMD file to a DAE, converted the vertex, normal and UV mapping values to hex float (by using the 3DS export method used for vertex hacking), and put those all in the MDL0 file. THEN, I took DAE and put it through the Collada Refinery, with the "Tristripper" option so that the "triangle" values were condensed into tristrips (which are so much smaller than having thousands of values for the original triangles). These are the tristrip values for the Bill's hat:

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The reason I had asked for a batch hex converter a while back was so that I could convert all those values to hex. Every tristrip has a minimum of 3 values -- the first one links to the vertex point, the second is for normals, and the third is for UV mapping, and the amount of values was always a multiple of 3 because of that. Every chunk of values in between the <p> and </p> tags was for a different tristrip, so I put a "9800FF" before each and every one of those. Then, I counted the number of values between those tags and divided by 3, then changed the "FF" at the end of the "9800FF" I put in to that value (in hex) then stuck it into the model file under the Polygons section when I was done. Finally, after injecting the new values, I had to re-link every single node in the MDL0 file. I still believe that my earlier attempt had at least one incorrectly linked offset. If even a single offset in the MDL0 is off, the whole thing breaks (which is why I had so much trouble getting it working by rebuilding Jigglypuff's entire model -- using the sleep hat gave me so much less that I had to worry about re-linking).

This could work for rigged models, too, but I'm really not sure how they're set up yet. It does work for things with only one bone, though.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/RandomTalkingBush/SSBB-MiningLightPuff.jpg)
Finished the Mining Light now. Just like the Bill's Hat, it only will work over FitPurin02, because the hat's a separate model. (I have to try again with rebuilding a complete model, since my earlier attempts failed.)

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yh4tdkzzzze

Jiggs still doesn't have a fedorah but I gotta say the mining hat is friggin sweet.

Would It be possible to put hats of playable characters in Brawl on Jigglypuff through the use of Kirby hats? Because you can't give Jigglypuff Mario's hat because Mario's hat is part of his model, But the Mario Kirby hat is separate from Kirby, So what It be possible to give It to Jigglypuff? Also, Using the method described above, Would It be possible to make Kirby hats out of TF2 hats?

How the **** did you do that?I herd the game dosen't even use mdl0 files.

RandomT, you should upload the jigglypuff to the vault, I saw it for the first time on a youtube video and didn't know where to find it xD

Man, I hope there's a way to hex it in. I don't always wanna replace the green slot.

Couldnt you just put the thing on the green slot then replace 00 with it? Like rename the Pac Fitpurin00? Wouldnt it still have the same qualities?

You people need to educate yourselves about this. In Jigglypuff's sleep hat costume, The hat is a separate model from Jigglypuff. That's why these TF2 hat replacements only work on "FitPurin02", Jigglypuff doesn't have any other costumes where the hat is a separate model from Jigglypuff. That's also why replacing "FitPurin02" with a non-sleep hat costume will result in a freeze.

Yeah I got that but wouldnt technically just renaming it to fitpurin00 keep the model data and everything?

Or is it the fact that since it has the "00" the game doesnt try to read the hat and freezes?

Quote from: Hatsune Miku on April 22, 2010, 10:04:13 PM
Yeah I got that but wouldnt technically just renaming it to fitpurin00 keep the model data and everything?

Or is it the fact that since it has the "00" the game doesnt try to read the hat and freezes?

I already explained why that doesn't work. The only thing I can think to add to It  is that the file name doesn't matter, It's the contents of the file that matter.

I think i get it now. O_o... Still. has anyone else been able to do this?

Quote from: OizenX on February 20, 2010, 05:09:22 AM


Well honestly I don't know what TF2 is but this is cool :3

Might as well dislike it since I like it also.

I had tried it yesterday, but no results. A regular jigglypuff only cares about the first model in the modeldata[0] with index and flags being zero.

I want this one:
http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Max's_severed_head

OMG THIS OVER PIKACHU!! THIS OVER PIKACHU!!!
http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Demoman%27s_%27fro

AFROCHU MUST EXIST!! HE MUST!!
http://galaxiadarkness.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/al_100408_0532-bin-out-copy.png

I WOULD USE HIM EVERY TIME I PLAY PIKACHU!! that and if you can somehow make the gloves.. i cant vertex :(

This one should be done over either Pikachu or Jigglypuff:
http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Scotsman's_stove_pipe
Or this one:
http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Hustler's_hallmark

I love it.

Everyone drools over it, I think its a lie.

When he does another one its the doubter's preference not the fans.

:af:

http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Towering_pillar_of_hats
Just because...

Quote from: Mewtwo2000 on April 22, 2010, 09:21:57 AMRandomT, you should upload the jigglypuff to the vault, I saw it for the first time on a youtube video and didn't know where to find it xD

I will in a few days.

Anyway, sorry about not being able to work on any other requests at this moment. I've been busy with other things. I'll work on a few of your requests later, especially the ones for Pikachu... just so I can try rebuilding a whole model and not just one part like I did for the two Jigglypuff hats.

lol alright.. maybe someday ill be able vertex by myself.. but first i gotta clear my hard drive..

i only got %8 left on a 250GB hard drive XD so i cant install 3Ds MAX until i am able to clean up a bit!

Okay, both skins (and my old Ice Climbers "separate eyes" patch) were submitted to the BrawlVault, and are awaiting admin approval have been approved.

I... think I'll try making the Towering Pillar of Hats next, but this time, I'll try rebuilding one of the other Jigglypuff models, so that it won't be replacing the green team skin again.

Would it be possible to replace an item with a TF2 weapon?
Like the Maxim Tomato replaced by Heavy's Sandvich?

DUDE THAT WOULD BE EPIC-LY AWESOME!!
DO IT!! lol i sure am demanding arent i?

Quote from: CR4CK3RW0LF on April 29, 2010, 01:34:08 AM
DO IT!! lol i sure am demanding arent i?

I'll do it if he says it's possible, and I got tons of other ideas if it works.

Millions of fan requests. >_>

Quote from: Segab on April 28, 2010, 11:38:20 PMWould it be possible to replace an item with a TF2 weapon?
Like the Maxim Tomato replaced by Heavy's Sandvich?

Hm. I like that request. I'll do that, first.

Quote from: Captain Oizen on April 29, 2010, 03:34:44 AMMillions of fan requests. >_>

Yeah... If only I could modify the BrawlBox source that Kryal uploaded to enable saving, then I'd be able to blitz through them all. Until then, I gotta do things by hand.

Wut about the towering pillar of hats? :(

RandomTBush:

Quote from: ds22To bad just can't rip the head from the Mewtwo trophy and put it on Mew(cario)two's body.
Wait, if we can get Mewtwo's head from Melee with one bone in it and ask RandomTBush to convert (if possible) it like he did with Bill's hat and then get it in similar to how Roy's hair is done (I know Lucario doesn't have a sword glow, but he has those hand aura's) to replace his head.
Just a idea I got (a bit hard and totally unnecessarily to do, but I'm just stating it).
Or we could ask -BigSharkZ- for the values he used to get the perfect Mewtwo head, asfor I have read he's taking a break.

Do you still have that Mewtwo head?
If so, could you say if what I'm suggesting in my quote is possible?

Quote from: matteron on April 29, 2010, 07:57:35 PMWut about the towering pillar of hats? :(

I'll get to working on that, too.

Quote from: ds22 on April 29, 2010, 08:17:05 PM
RandomTBush:

Quote from: ds22To bad just can't rip the head from the Mewtwo trophy and put it on Mew(cario)two's body.
Wait, if we can get Mewtwo's head from Melee with one bone in it and ask RandomTBush to convert (if possible) it like he did with Bill's hat and then get it in similar to how Roy's hair is done (I know Lucario doesn't have a sword glow, but he has those hand aura's) to replace his head.
Just a idea I got (a bit hard and totally unnecessarily to do, but I'm just stating it).
Or we could ask -BigSharkZ- for the values he used to get the perfect Mewtwo head, asfor I have read he's taking a break.

Do you still have that Mewtwo head?
If so, could you say if what I'm suggesting in my quote is possible?

I honestly think that re-rigging Mewtwo to Lucario's skeleton would be better than just rebuilding his head and putting it over Lucario's model by other means. But that can't really be done right now. D:

But could you send me Mewtwo's head .obj (or vertex data to directly replace in BrawlBox) anyway (if you still have it of course)?
I have some plans.  >D
Anyway, with re-rigging, you mean the trophy model from Brawl?

Quote from: ds22 on April 29, 2010, 08:58:25 PM
Anyway, with re-rigging, you mean the trophy model from Brawl?

I think he means putting the bones of a playable character on a trophy. Meaning the MewTwo trophy with Lucario's bones.

Quote from: PAVGN on April 29, 2010, 09:20:01 PM

Quote from: ds22 on April 29, 2010, 08:58:25 PM
Anyway, with re-rigging, you mean the trophy model from Brawl?

I think he means putting the bones of a playable character on a trophy. Meaning the MewTwo trophy with Lucario's bones.

That I know.
I was questioning the use of the Brawl trophy model instead of the Melee model.

If you can port mdl0 models in brawl, is it possible to port models from zelda twilight princess  which are ported to de source engine? And if thats possible, is it then even possible to replace the ssbb link's master sword with one of the other sword?
...kinda confusing

But Ike's sword is. At least, when he is trowing it in the air... So it would still be useless...

Quote from: Quanno on May 02, 2010, 03:48:11 PM
But Ike's sword is. At least, when he is trowing it in the air... So it would still be useless...

The sword Ike throws up is an article, while Link doesn't have a sword article.

Quote from: RandomTBush on April 29, 2010, 03:55:58 AM

Quote from: Segab on April 28, 2010, 11:38:20 PMWould it be possible to replace an item with a TF2 weapon?
Like the Maxim Tomato replaced by Heavy's Sandvich?

Hm. I like that request. I'll do that, first.

cool, tell me if that works.

Quote from: Segab on May 03, 2010, 09:33:34 PM

Quote from: RandomTBush on April 29, 2010, 03:55:58 AM

Quote from: Segab on April 28, 2010, 11:38:20 PMWould it be possible to replace an item with a TF2 weapon?
Like the Maxim Tomato replaced by Heavy's Sandvich?

Hm. I like that request. I'll do that, first.

cool, tell me if that works.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/RandomTalkingBush/Brawl-MetaKnightConsultsSandvich.jpg)
What was that, sandvich? "Kill them all"? GOOD IDEA! Ahahahahaha!

Sorry it took so long. I've been busy with other things for the past few weeks. Tomorrow, after I clean up the MDL0 file a bit, I'll release it. :)

Hey randomtbrush, are you ever gonna do my request for max's severed head?

Win. What does it replace?

Quote from: NecroMasterX on June 03, 2010, 12:27:19 PMHey randomtbrush, are you ever gonna do my request for max's severed head?

It's on my to-do list.

Quote from: BehindYou on June 03, 2010, 02:59:01 PMWin. What does it replace?

The Maxim Tomato. Maxim Tomato heals 50%, sandvich laying on the ground heals 50HP. Makes perfect sense.

whats the format on the polygon block.

its like header info then a bunch of strips.. but the strips have a format to them..

-[3bytes] 0x9800FF {start of strip?}
-[2bytes][x3] 3 Faces
-[1byte] 0x00 node?

..pattern repeats depending on the amount of faces in strip...

Quote from: mariokart64n on June 05, 2010, 02:19:28 AMwhats the format on the polygon block.

its like header info then a bunch of strips.. but the strips have a format to them..

-[3bytes] 0x9800FF {start of strip?}
-[2bytes][x3] 3 Faces
-[1byte] 0x00 node?

..pattern repeats depending on the amount of faces in strip...

For tristrips, the first byte is for the polygon type (with 98 being the identifier for triangle strips), and then the next two is for how many polygon groups there are in the batch. Then, all the bytes after that for vertex position ID, normal position ID, and UV position ID, in that order, and there are always at least three groups.

This page (http://smashbrosfiles.blogspot.com/p/technical-file-information-melee.html) has information on the different polygon types, under "Conversion Methods" (click on the button to the left to expand the section). Although written for Super Smash Bros. Melee, the polygon format seems to be the exact same for Brawl.

Anyway, Sandvich is released!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/RandomTalkingBush/Brawl-SandvichMakeMeStrong.jpg)
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=7137&Moderated=All

I'll most likely take a new picture for it tomorrow, as I was in a bit of a hurry to get it uploaded.

I don't get the sandwich joke, but okay.

Quote from: OizenX on June 05, 2010, 04:30:26 AMI don't get the sandwich joke, but okay.

The basic idea of the picture's from Meet the Scout, one of Valve's promotional videos for Team Fortress 2. The red team's Scout (on the right) interrupts the blue team's Heavy (on the left) right before he's about to eat his Sandvich.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/RandomTalkingBush/TF2-YoWhatsUp.jpg)

I'm gonna re-take the picture sometime tomorrow, though, since I'm gonna change it so that Ness is holding the Home Run Bat. Either that, or just about to bash Dedede's head in.

But as for the idea of the Sandvich itself, it's food. Food replacing food. Makes sense.

ITS AWESOME :D

ill take 4

I made a maxscript to read a stripified DAE then write only the strips to a bin file as hex.

it follows what I sorta understand but it's not tested.. cause I haven't even gotten this to work yet
the info supllied by RandomTbush really confused me after he said the polygon file doesn't have faces, its just ID's IDs IDs.. if thats the case I have no clue. cause there is alot of random numbers at the end of the polygon block.. but I can makeout the starting pattern, which also is backed up by the melee info

[2bytes] ID {9800=triStrips}
[2bytes] FaceCount {??not sure on base unit 0 or 1} DAE uses 1, usually hex is 0
[2bytes][FaceCountx3] faces...


anyway here's the script, please test it out. I think I have the endian wrong
fsource = GetOpenFileName \
caption:"die!" types: \
"PKG(*nif)|*.*|All files (*.*)|*.*|"
f= fopen fsource "rt"
-- fext= getFilenameType fsource
-- fsize= getFileSize fsource
fpath= getFilenamePath fsource
fname= getFilenameFile fsource
-- f = fopen "T:\\BrawlMods\\marth_shinobo\\polygon15" "rb"
-- f = fopen "T:\\BrawlMods\\marth_shinobo\\ok2.dae" "rt"

-- fpath="C:\\"

-- fn writeBElong fstream = (
-- long = readlong fstream
-- long = bit.swapBytes long 1 4
-- long = bit.swapBytes long 2 3
-- return long
-- )

-- fn readBEshort fstream = (
-- short = readshort fstream
-- short = bit.swapBytes short 1 2
-- return short
-- )
fn ReadFixedString bstream fixedLen = (
local str = ""
for i = 1 to fixedLen do
(
str += bit.intAsChar (ReadByte bstream #unsigned)
)
str
)

filetest=""
while(filetest!="tristrips")
do(
file=bit.intAsChar (ReadByte f #unsigned)
if file=="<" do(
filetest=readFixedString f 9
triStripOffset=((ftell f)+7)
fseek f -9 #seek_cur
)
if filetest=="tristrips" then exit
)



if triStripOffset!=undefined do(
fseek f triStripOffset #seek_set

faceCount=""
do(
file=bit.intaschar (ReadByte f #unsigned)
if file=="\"" then exit
if file!=" " do(
faceCount+=file
)
)
while (file!=" ")
faceCount =(faceCount as float)




while(ftell f!=end)
do(
file=bit.intAsChar (ReadByte f #unsigned)
if file=="<" do(
filetest=readFixedString f 2
if filetest=="p>" then exit
)
)

fseek f -4 #seek_cur
start=ftell f
-- while(ftell f!=end)
-- do(
-- file=bit.intAsChar (ReadByte f #unsigned)
-- if file=="/" do(
-- filetest=readFixedString f 9
-- if filetest=="tristrips" then exit
-- )
-- )
-- last=ftell f
-- stripSize=(last-start)

-- fseek f start #seek_set
-- StripRead=""
-- for x = 1 to stripSize do(
-- StripRead+=bit.intAsChar (ReadByte f #unsigned)
-- )
-- StripRead as stringStream
-- fr=readDelimitedString StripRead " "

faceArray=#()
stripCount=#()
for x = 1 to faceCount do(
counter=0
do(
fseek f -1 #seek_cur
file2=bit.intAsChar (ReadByte f #unsigned)

if file2=="<" then exit

face=""

do(
file=bit.intAsChar (ReadByte f #unsigned)
if file==" " then exit
if file=="<" then exit
if file!=" " do(face+=file)

)while(file!=" ")

face=(face as float)
append faceArray face
counter+=1
)while(file2!="<")

append stripCount counter
fseek f 27 #seek_cur
)

-- print faceArray
-- print stripCount
fclose f
gc()

createFile (fpath+fname+"_strips.bin")
s = fopen (fpath+fname+"_strips.bin") "ab"
for x = 1 to stripCount.count do(
write=writeshort s 0x0098
write=writebyte s stripCount[x]
for i = 1 to stripCount[x]/3 do(
write=writeshort s (bit.swapBytes (faceArray[1]) 1 2)
write=writeshort s (bit.swapBytes (faceArray[2]) 1 2)
write=writebyte s 0x00
write=writeshort s (bit.swapBytes (faceArray[3]) 1 2)
deleteItem faceArray 1
deleteItem faceArray 1
deleteItem faceArray 1

)
-- gc light:false delayed:false
)


fclose s
gc()



)



wh = ftell f
print wh



-- totalLength=readBElong f
-- mdl0Offset=readBElong f
-- nodeId=readBElong f
-- elemFlags=readBElong f
-- texFlags=readBElong f
-- dataFlags=readBElong f
-- defSize=readBElong f
-- defFlags=readBElong f
-- defOffset=readBElong f
-- dataLen1=readBElong f
-- dataLen2=readBElong f
-- dataOffset=readBElong f
-- unk2=readBElong f
-- unk3=readBElong f
-- stringOffset=readBElong f
-- index=readBElong f
-- numVertices=readBElong f
-- numFaces=readBElong f
-- vertSet=readBEshort f
-- normalSet=readBEshort f
-- fseek f 20 #seek_cur
-- part10Offset=readBElong f
-- dataJump=totalLength-dataLen1
-- fseek f dataJump #seek_set



-- wh= ftell f
-- print "where?"
-- print wh
print "DONE!!"


I'll do more testing myself later, if I have success I'll create a video outlining the method

http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Safe%27n%27Sound
also
viking helm
:3 plz

Quote from: mariokart64n on June 06, 2010, 03:03:26 PM
the info supllied by RandomTbush really confused me after he said the polygon file doesn't have faces, its just ID's IDs IDs.. if thats the case I have no clue.

Ulp. What I meant by IDs, is that there are a certain amount of vertices, normals, and UV points per model. Each vertex, normal and UV point has as many IDs as there are points. One ID per point, ya see.

Let's just say that one polygon group is like this: (0 0 0 2 1 3 4 4 4). That means that the vertices link to points #0, #2 and #4, the normals link to points #0, #1 and #4, and the UV links to points #0, #3 and #4. Only from their own point groups, of course.

RandomTBush, would a model that is 'neither rigged, weighted or textured' work to be imported?

Quote from: Some guy who makes epic modelsMy concern at present is that neither model is rigged, weighted or textured, as well that both models are significantly more complex than the Wii can probably handle. I do have a lower res GL, but he's still not textured or rigged.

Do you have a lot of experience importing outside models into Brawl?

Quote from: Vishkugeta on June 06, 2010, 10:05:16 PM
RandomTBush, would a model that is 'neither rigged, weighted or textured' work to be imported?

Quote from: Some guy who makes epic modelsMy concern at present is that neither model is rigged, weighted or textured, as well that both models are significantly more complex than the Wii can probably handle. I do have a lower res GL, but he's still not textured or rigged.

Do you have a lot of experience importing outside models into Brawl?

If it doesn't have any texture, then it's probably not best to work on it until it does, as the UV values would probably change and therefore have the polygon groups forced to be re-done.

Unless it's not supposed to have textures in the first place.

yay, brawlbox didnt crash this time ^_^

seems there an extra byte.. I don't understand why

like

98 00 [count] [face1] [face2] [node?] [face3]

updated the script, tested on marths hair, but its a vertex mess
fsource = GetOpenFileName \
caption:"die!" types: \
"PKG(*nif)|*.*|All files (*.*)|*.*|"
f= fopen fsource "rt"
-- fext= getFilenameType fsource
-- fsize= getFileSize fsource
fpath= getFilenamePath fsource
fname= getFilenameFile fsource
-- f = fopen "T:\\BrawlMods\\marth_shinobo\\polygon15" "rb"
-- f = fopen "T:\\BrawlMods\\marth_shinobo\\ok2.dae" "rt"

-- fpath="C:\\"

-- fn writeBElong fstream = (
-- long = readlong fstream
-- long = bit.swapBytes long 1 4
-- long = bit.swapBytes long 2 3
-- return long
-- )

-- fn readBEshort fstream = (
-- short = readshort fstream
-- short = bit.swapBytes short 1 2
-- return short
-- )
fn ReadFixedString bstream fixedLen = (
local str = ""
for i = 1 to fixedLen do
(
str += bit.intAsChar (ReadByte bstream #unsigned)
)
str
)

filetest=""
while(filetest!="tristrips")
do(
file=bit.intAsChar (ReadByte f #unsigned)
if file=="<" do(
filetest=readFixedString f 9
triStripOffset=((ftell f)+7)
fseek f -9 #seek_cur
)
if filetest=="tristrips" then exit
)



if triStripOffset!=undefined do(
fseek f triStripOffset #seek_set

faceCount=""
do(
file=bit.intaschar (ReadByte f #unsigned)
if file=="\"" then exit
if file!=" " do(
faceCount+=file
)
)
while (file!=" ")
faceCount =(faceCount as float)




while(ftell f!=end)
do(
file=bit.intAsChar (ReadByte f #unsigned)
if file=="<" do(
filetest=readFixedString f 2
if filetest=="p>" then exit
)
)

fseek f -4 #seek_cur
start=ftell f
-- while(ftell f!=end)
-- do(
-- file=bit.intAsChar (ReadByte f #unsigned)
-- if file=="/" do(
-- filetest=readFixedString f 9
-- if filetest=="tristrips" then exit
-- )
-- )
-- last=ftell f
-- stripSize=(last-start)

-- fseek f start #seek_set
-- StripRead=""
-- for x = 1 to stripSize do(
-- StripRead+=bit.intAsChar (ReadByte f #unsigned)
-- )
-- StripRead as stringStream
-- fr=readDelimitedString StripRead " "

faceArray=#()
stripCount=#()
for x = 1 to faceCount do(
counter=0
do(
fseek f -1 #seek_cur
file2=bit.intAsChar (ReadByte f #unsigned)

if file2=="<" then exit

face=""

do(
file=bit.intAsChar (ReadByte f #unsigned)
if file==" " then exit
if file=="<" then exit
if file!=" " do(face+=file)

)while(file!=" ")

face=(face as float)
append faceArray face
counter+=1
)while(file2!="<")

append stripCount counter
fseek f 27 #seek_cur
)

-- print faceArray
-- print stripCount
fclose f
gc()

createFile (fpath+fname+"_strips.bin")
s = fopen (fpath+fname+"_strips.bin") "ab"
for x = 1 to stripCount.count do(
write=writeshort s 0x0098
write=writebyte s (stripCount[x]/3)
for i = 1 to stripCount[x]/3 do(
write=writeshort s (bit.swapBytes (faceArray[1]) 1 2)
write=writeshort s (bit.swapBytes (faceArray[2]) 1 2)
write=writebyte s 0x00
write=writeshort s (bit.swapBytes (faceArray[3]) 1 2)
deleteItem faceArray 1
deleteItem faceArray 1
deleteItem faceArray 1

)
-- gc light:false delayed:false
)


fclose s
gc()



)



wh = ftell f
print wh



-- totalLength=readBElong f
-- mdl0Offset=readBElong f
-- nodeId=readBElong f
-- elemFlags=readBElong f
-- texFlags=readBElong f
-- dataFlags=readBElong f
-- defSize=readBElong f
-- defFlags=readBElong f
-- defOffset=readBElong f
-- dataLen1=readBElong f
-- dataLen2=readBElong f
-- dataOffset=readBElong f
-- unk2=readBElong f
-- unk3=readBElong f
-- stringOffset=readBElong f
-- index=readBElong f
-- numVertices=readBElong f
-- numFaces=readBElong f
-- vertSet=readBEshort f
-- normalSet=readBEshort f
-- fseek f 20 #seek_cur
-- part10Offset=readBElong f
-- dataJump=totalLength-dataLen1
-- fseek f dataJump #seek_set



-- wh= ftell f
-- print "where?"
-- print wh
print "DONE!!"

also I'm still not sure what you mean by ID's are the IDs in the polgon block that I need to edit

Quote from: mariokart64n on June 06, 2010, 10:22:13 PMseems there an extra byte.. I don't understand why

like

98 00 [count] [face1] [face2] [node?] [face3]

...

also I'm still not sure what you mean by ID's are the IDs in the polgon block that I need to edit

Hm. Seems like it's a different type of polygon group you're working with. I think the extra byte might be for colour IDs? It does come right after normals (2nd byte) and before UV (4th byte). The one I was working with gives me two bytes for each vertex/normal/UV, and no colour IDs that I have to worry about.

And the IDs for the polygon groups link to the vertex/normal/UV positions, like I said. For example...

ID 0 = -2.0331 0.052406 0.91553
ID 1 = -2.06535 0.053566 0.768179
ID 2 = -3.09214 0.05108 0.188485
ID 3 = -1.93107 0.052136 1.02704
ID 4 = -2.9666 0.073827 -0.560108
ID 5 = -2.03939 0.061984 -2.06363

If the polygon group goes (0 # # 1 # # 2 # # 3 # # 4 # # 5 # #), then it would draw a triangle from point 0 to point 1 to point 2, then one from point 1 to point 2 to point 3, and so on. A similar thing works for the normals and UVs.

Anyway. What are the identifiers set to in the header for the polygon group?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/RandomTalkingBush/Brawl-PolygonIdentifiers.png)
These are the ones I've used, which allow me to have more than 256 polygons per object. (The red ones on the bottom need to match the green ones at the top.)

well that's awesome RandomTBrush.

I can't understand how you're doing that.. I'd like to try importing stuff but it's just Chinese to me.

Wheres mah max's sevared head?

It takes a while to manually convert a model to MDL0.
I don't even know what he's working on.

Quote from: NecroMasterX on June 09, 2010, 11:24:30 PMWheres mah max's sevared head?

As BehindYou said, it takes a while to manually convert a model to MDL0. Plus, I've been busy with real-life stuff. (I do have a life, ya know.)

Quote from: BehindYou on June 09, 2010, 11:29:52 PMI don't even know what he's working on.

Currently, I was working on Peach with Luigi's outfit (like in Super Mario Adventures), but I guess I can put that one aside so I can work on NecroMasterX/Symbiote's request... Who do you want it for, again? Jigglypuff, or Pikachu, or...? Either way, I'll be trying to build it over their original models, so it won't be limited to one skin like my first two models were.

I want it on pikachu if you can, also symbiote was my old acount, I lost the password and the lost password button diddn't help. But, if you cant get max's severed head on pikachu, put it on jiggs so I can make it a kirby hat.

Quote from: NecroMasterX on June 10, 2010, 01:32:51 AMI want it on pikachu if you can, also symbiote was my old acount, I lost the password and the lost password button diddn't help. But, if you cant get max's severed head on pikachu, put it on jiggs so I can make it a kirby hat.

Ah, I see.

Any hat? Can I get this hat on Jigglypuff?

http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Safe%27n%27Sound

Well, technically not a hat but head phones.

Quote from: NecroMasterX on June 10, 2010, 01:32:51 AM
I want it on pikachu if you can, also symbiote was my old acount, I lost the password and the lost password button diddn't help. But, if you cant get max's severed head on pikachu, put it on jiggs so I can make it a kirby hat.

If you want It as a Kirby hat then why not just ask for It as a Kirby hat?

this is cool

Oh, and I couldn't get your MaxScript to work for me at all, by the way, mariokart64n (it froze 3DS Max every time). Is there a specific thing I have to do to get it working?

yeah there was a typo, that caused the script not to work... :(

since I wasn't able to fully understand the format, I didn't bother posting the fixed version, sorry

sometime I'll update my main script, and addd a new button called export. it'll dump raw verts, raw UVs, and faces formatted as specified for triStrip all as separate bin files. that way people can tinker with hex replacing data in the MDL0. hopfully that'll be a big help to everyone hexing.

but the thing that's held me back is the fact I'm using EditPoly to do all my operations in 3dsmax. see max has a marco recorder.. so basically it'll save your actions to a script, that you can replay later. that's the basics of maxscript. for some reason the macro listener only gives me output for using editPoly..

anyway editPoly is increasing the vert count, which is causing grief among my new vert technique..

I tried posting for help at the script spot, so far no answer.. how ever I may just continue with the script, cause I donno if I'll get my problem solved or not. my friend chrrox suggested using meshOps, by cloning and collapsing to mesh edit only then carry out my operations... it may have to come down to that.

RandomTBush, This isn't really a request, but would it be possible for you to build an entire character from TF2 into brawl?

Quote from: OizenX on June 15, 2010, 02:38:43 AM
RandomTBush, This isn't really a request, but would it be possible for you to build an entire character from TF2 into brawl?

if this were possible, Gordon Freeman would be the first, or at least a crowbar that you can use as a weapon (over homerun bat perhaps?)

Quote from: dingoberriz on June 15, 2010, 02:55:43 AM

Quote from: CR4CK3RW0LF on June 15, 2010, 02:46:38 AM

Quote from: OizenX on June 15, 2010, 02:38:43 AM
RandomTBush, This isn't really a request, but would it be possible for you to build an entire character from TF2 into brawl?

if this were possible, Gordon Freeman would be the first, or at least a crowbar that you can use as a weapon (over homerun bat perhaps?)

I don't recall Gordon Freeman being in TF2.

yes but he is in the steam engine, therefore he should have the same model build..

correct me if im wrong, but doesnt that mean EVERYTHING running the steam engine can be ported to brawl? probably not people, but small time stuff? I WANTZ A CROWBAR! :D

Quote from: OizenX on June 15, 2010, 02:38:43 AMRandomTBush, This isn't really a request, but would it be possible for you to build an entire character from TF2 into brawl?

Eventually. I still don't quite understand the rigging format, but when I do, yes, it would be possible. The first thing I'll do when I figure it out, though, will most likely be porting Zoey over Zero Suit Samus.

But, anyway, I believe I've said this before, but any model that I port doesn't necessarily need to be from a Source-based game. It's just that those are the most convenient that I can get models from.

@randomTbrush, NICE! i just assumed it was doable only if it was from the source engine.

they ported mewtwo for gary's mod, if you made that for brawl.... you would be the most popular guy in brawl vault :D

provided that you get the rigging format situated that is.. i would settle for a crowbar XD

Can you convert/import .DAE files into Brawl? Because I found this place (http://www.models-resource.com/) a few days ago and I think It'd be awesome If you could import this. (http://www.models-resource.com/other_systems/halo2/sheet/57)

@RandomTBush

if I gave you a mesh that's lower in polycount and vertcount to another mesh I want to replace. would you be able to replace it for me?

its the matter of replacing shinobu's hair with the real shinobu's hair.
find files here. (i dont care about UV import)
http://rapidshare.com/files/399165346/marth_shinobu_jacobs_B_v01.zip
(http://i49.tinypic.com/3150nzm.jpg)

otherwise tomorrow I'll be committing time to scripting in max.
is there any functions you need might want, I can likely carry it out in maxscript.
like exportings verts or faces something like that in a specified format. or any read / write things. ? oh and do you know in what region the vertex weights are being stored?

also I was heavily involved with gmod, I've got alot of models. let me know if your looking for something. ;)

Quote from: CR4CK3RW0LF on June 15, 2010, 05:04:48 AM@randomTbrush, NICE! i just assumed it was doable only if it was from the source engine.

they ported mewtwo for gary's mod, if you made that for brawl.... you would be the most popular guy in brawl vault :D

provided that you get the rigging format situated that is.. i would settle for a crowbar XD

Ah, yeah. That's another thing I should do when/if I get the rigging format figured out. I should probably rig his model over Lucario's skeleton so that it will have the best results.

Quote from: mariokart64n on June 15, 2010, 05:29:11 AM
@RandomTBush

if I gave you a mesh that's lower in polycount and vertcount to another mesh I want to replace. would you be able to replace it for me?

its the matter of replacing shinobu's hair with the real shinobu's hair.
find files here. (i dont care about UV import)
http://rapidshare.com/files/399165346/marth_shinobu_jacobs_B_v01.zip
(http://i49.tinypic.com/3150nzm.jpg)

otherwise tomorrow I'll be committing time to scripting in max.
is there any functions you need might want, I can likely carry it out in maxscript.
like exportings verts or faces something like that in a specified format. or any read / write things. ? oh and do you know in what region the vertex weights are being stored?

also I was heavily involved with gmod, I've got alot of models. let me know if your looking for something. ;)

I suppose I could. I'll see if I can get it done within a week.

And I'm almost certain that the rigging is set up in polygon groups like this:

30 00 EF B0 78
30 00 F0 B0 84
30 00 85 B0 90
30 00 F2 B0 9C
30 00 1F B0 A8
30 00 44 B0 B4
30 00 41 B0 C0
20 00 EF B0 00
20 00 F0 B0 0C
20 00 85 B0 18
20 00 F2 B0 24
20 00 1F B0 30
20 00 44 B0 3C
20 00 41 B0 48
28 00 EF 84 00
28 00 F0 84 09
28 00 85 84 12
28 00 F2 84 1B
28 00 1F 84 24
28 00 44 84 2D
28 00 41 84 36The identifiers for rigging are "30", "20" and "28", and are in the polygon groupings in several different spots. That's just one of the many chunks from Pikachu's MDL0. Right now, I really don't know what those values mean, but I'm gonna be comparing the exported values from a DAE file and the raw values and see what's similar between them sometime later. (That's how I figured out the basic polygon format in the first place, in fact.)

And DANG, that Shinobu used to be Marth? Certainly fooled me. D:

Can I request, if possible, Sora's Keyblade converted as a Brawl model?
Preferable this one:
http://www.models-resource.com/psx_ps2/KH2FM/sheet/146

Quote from: RandomTBush on June 15, 2010, 04:38:23 AM
The first thing I'll do when I figure it out, though, will most likely be porting Zoey over Zero Suit Samus.

Dude!!! I would LOVE you forever if you did get Zoey in Brawl. She's my fave L4D char. I can't wait till you can import Source engine stuff. I'll keep my eye on this topic from now on XD

We still have a long way to go before EVERYTHING has been hacked in Brawl.

Well... no one has done a Mr. Canti from Fooly Cooly yet. That's something that WOULD BE APPRECIATED! (HINT DO IT SOMEONE HINT!)

gawd this topic is dead, plz post in requests.. 0_0

Quote from: Judge CR4CK3RW0LF on June 28, 2010, 03:30:41 AM
gawd this topic is dead, plz post in requests.. 0_0

It's not dead unless I say it is.

But anyway, I've been having some trouble getting Max's Severed Head to work on Pikachu. It's there and everything, but it causes the same glitching and slowdown as I had with Jigglypuff when I first tried to put the Bill's Hat in the same MDL0... I'm gonna spend more time looking into the MDL0 format, because I think I may just be forgetting something important...

oh, sorry bout that, its just that its been very quiet.. 0_0

All the major info in a collada dae file is just a rearranged version of brawls MDL0 files. I can build completely new brawl models from any dae, the only thing is it take about a bajillion years. The only thing don't quite understand fully is how tristrips works.

It doesn't have to be on pikachu, I mainly want it as a kirby hat.

I want max too in brawl and maybe a character model import from sam and max season 1 or 2

Quote from: VILE on June 30, 2010, 01:16:30 AM
All the major info in a collada dae file is just a rearranged version of brawls MDL0 files. I can build completely new brawl models from any dae, the only thing is it take about a bajillion years. The only thing don't quite understand fully is how tristrips works.

Triangle strips basically go from point 1 to 2 to 3, then from 2 to 3 to 4, then from 3 to 4 to 5, etc. It's a more efficient way for storing large lengths of triangles.

Quote from: NecroMasterX on June 30, 2010, 01:53:42 AM
It doesn't have to be on pikachu, I mainly want it as a kirby hat.

Well, good, because I can't get it working on Pikachu, because of the way the vertex weights are stored. I'll see if I can get a chance to put the Kirby hat model together sometime later next week.

Quote from: Internetakias on July 10, 2010, 05:10:56 PM
I want max too in brawl and maybe a character model import from sam and max season 1 or 2

Entire character models are not possible yet, and probably won't be for a few more months (at least).

Quote from: RandomTBush on July 14, 2010, 07:14:27 PM

Quote from: VILE on June 30, 2010, 01:16:30 AM
All the major info in a collada dae file is just a rearranged version of brawls MDL0 files. I can build completely new brawl models from any dae, the only thing is it take about a bajillion years. The only thing don't quite understand fully is how tristrips works.

Triangle strips basically go from point 1 to 2 to 3, then from 2 to 3 to 4, then from 3 to 4 to 5, etc. It's a more efficient way for storing large lengths of triangles.

Sorry i meant to say i know how they work, but i don't know a method (or at least one that doesn't require me searching for each individual point and writing it) for getting a string of them.

Quote from: VILE on July 15, 2010, 03:22:55 AMSorry i meant to say i know how they work, but i don't know a method (or at least one that doesn't require me searching for each individual point and writing it) for getting a string of them.

If you want an easy way to convert the triangles into tristrips, use the Collada Refinery (http://sourceforge.net/projects/colladarefinery/files/COLLADA%20Refinery/COLLADA%20Refinery%202.0.3/). Just run a DAE file through it with Tristripper, and it'll convert all of the triangles into triangle strips.

(Sometime, I'll write a better step-by-step tutorial, so that no important steps will be missed.)

Quote from: RandomTBush on July 15, 2010, 03:37:26 AM

Quote from: VILE on July 15, 2010, 03:22:55 AMSorry i meant to say i know how they work, but i don't know a method (or at least one that doesn't require me searching for each individual point and writing it) for getting a string of them.

If you want an easy way to convert the triangles into tristrips, use the Collada Refinery (http://sourceforge.net/projects/colladarefinery/files/COLLADA%20Refinery/COLLADA%20Refinery%202.0.3/). Just run a DAE file through it with Tristripper, and it'll convert all of the triangles into triangle strips.

(Sometime, I'll write a better step-by-step tutorial, so that no important steps will be missed.)

Hmmmm, i might be able to get static models imported a fair bit quicker than usual.

I want to import Shadow vertex hack's face on another sonic model.
Is there a way to do it ?:srs: