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Let's also remember this people, this started because someone started raging my links to get me in trouble. I don't try to piss you off Vyse, but you know you hated me at the beginning. Marcov, I don't f'ing know you but you are mad because you think I stole something and you think it's cool to start spamming on my texture post that has NOTHING to do with stealing. If you wanted to be a GOOD admin don't make this public that is something no one needs to see except you and me. I would be fine if someone reseted my account The downloads and what-not. If not just whatever. I'm not trying to make enemies I'm trying to just get along. If you haven't noticed I only rage when people start fukin with me.

I don't think you stole something. I know you stole something. I didn't spam your topic, it was you the one that reacted violently. I just intended to leave that first message to you as a warning. I hoped you would understand and change your attitude like most people do.

You aren't going to tell me how to do my job. If I wanna warn you by PM, I'll do so, and if I don't wanna, I won't do so.

Look, you might want to back off now. I already gave you one more chance, don't waste it.

That's all.

I didn't use GIMP, I don't know why I just posted this.

Don't take it so literally. Vyse means that a simple recolor is still plagiarism.

Seriously, he didnt mean anything bad. He's just annoyed because he's being disrespected. Someone else is spamming his links, I know him, he wouldn't do something like that. He also made those Rosalina textures to my understanding and I KNOW he made the koopa ones because I saw him do it. Please lay off him.

Disrespected? I challenge you to find a single word that implicates disrespect in my post. The Rosalina textures belong to a fellow team member and the vertex hack (from Rosalina) belongs to LenSho, an admin on this site, so don't come telling me that he didn't steal anything.

Lensho's not an admin. xP

Yeah, you're right. His custom title fooled me xD

Seriously, he didnt mean anything bad. He's just annoyed because he's being disrespected. Someone else is spamming his links, I know him, he wouldn't do something like that. He also made those Rosalina textures to my understanding and I KNOW he made the koopa ones because I saw him do it. Please lay off him.

Disrespected? I challenge you to find a single word that implicates disrespect in my post. The Rosalina textures belong to a fellow team member and the vertex hack (from Rosalina) belongs to LenSho, an admin on this site, so don't come telling me that he didn't steal anything. And second, I think he can handle himself. You don't need to "protect" him like that, or you'll probably get into trouble as well. Our problem is with him, not with you, so with all due respect, I'm going to have to tell you to quit sticking your nose where it doesn't belong.

He was a witness so he should be someone who can stick his nose in it. Trust me I don't piss people off on purpose. Obviously the only person who wanted to be a assh*ole to random kids is probablly someone like this mabye some kid that was getting bullied. Also don't be a jerk to Yoshiboshi.

Witness? We're not talking about a crime scene here, and I hope that whole [censored] talk isn't directed to me, for your own good.

There's a difference between being disrespectful and being harsh.

"Our problem is with him, not with you, so with all due respect, I'm going to have to tell you to quit sticking your nose where it doesn't belong."

I hope you see the key words in that phrase.

Anyway, I just hope you behave from now on. I'm going to leave this here.

@ YoshiBoshi: http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=1320&DiplayName=Rosalina%20(HD)

Seriously, he didnt mean anything bad. He's just annoyed because he's being disrespected. Someone else is spamming his links, I know him, he wouldn't do something like that. He also made those Rosalina textures to my understanding and I KNOW he made the koopa ones because I saw him do it. Please lay off him.

Disrespected? I challenge you to find a single word that implicates disrespect in my post. The Rosalina textures belong to a fellow team member and the vertex hack (from Rosalina) belongs to LenSho, an admin on this site, so don't come telling me that he didn't steal anything. And second, I think he can handle himself. You don't need to "protect" him like that, or you'll probably get into trouble as well. Our problem is with him, not with you, so with all due respect, I'm going to have to tell you to quit sticking your nose where it doesn't belong.

I just have one little doubt, MyKewl. How are you supposed to have 1006 downloads in an hour when the average number of visitors we get in a day is 200 people? I'd say it's rather obvious.

If I see you again with an inflated download count, a stolen hack (those "compilations" of yours are just hacks done by other people packed together) or annoying us (the staff and the community) by any mean you can think of, I'll recommend everyone in the admin board to give you and your other accounts a permanent ban (And I'm sure they'll agree. They've been waiting to ban you since you appeared here). Got it?

By the way, your submitting and reporting rights in BrawlVault have been taken away. Want them back? Behave.

Good job being a d*uchebag, to be honest I don't care if I get banned I am getting sick and tired of Vyse, and others. Also threatening me doesn't do much as an example if I get banned you will be losing a ton of users. A ton of users I know will leave with me. ALSO I'm not giving myself downloads someone is spamming my downloads ask Yoshiboshi3. Thanks.

Get off that high horse. We'll lose 2 users. You and your other account, no one else will go because of you. And I recommend you to respect admins. Calling me "[censored]bag" is not really smart.

I just have one little doubt, MyKewl. How are you supposed to have 1006 downloads in an hour when the average number of visitors we get in a day is 200 people? I'd say it's rather obvious.

If I see you again with an inflated download count, a stolen hack (those "compilations" of yours are just hacks done by other people packed together) or annoying us (the staff and the community) by any mean you can think of, I'll recommend everyone in the admin board to give you and your other accounts a permanent ban (And I'm sure they'll agree. They've been waiting to ban you since you appeared here). Got it?

By the way, your submitting and reporting rights in BrawlVault have been taken away. Want them back? Behave.

I've had it with you, PAVGN. I wrote that last post in hopes that maybe you could understand this the good way, but it seems you're a lost case. I'll have to be a little more aggressive now.

I don't care what you think, believe or like. If you want to stay in this community, you'll abide by OUR rules and what WE believe is right for the majority. Don't like it? Get your ass out of here. Nobody is forcing you to be here. You're ok with it? Fine. Stay here and enjoy the ride.

I hope I made myself clear enough. And by the way, try to go get some grammar lessons.

That's funny that you mention that. I remember "HD" Rosalina had more downloads than the original one and i dont remember LenSho bitching about that.

You do realize Julz and LenSho are both on the KC:MM team, right?

By the way, nice way to avoid the censure system. Don't do it again. EVER.

By that logic, Nintendo should be re-releasing Super Smash Bros. Brawl with our hacks since they put more work into actually making the game, Than we did simply editing parts of It. Seriously, How many times does this need to be explained? If you're going to be that literal about It, ALL  hackers are thieves, Including you. Because we're all taking models and textures made by the creators of the game and re-releasing them without the permission of the creators.

Stop trying to push things that far so that they fit your needs. While that example is true, no one could care less about it.

What happens if a company steals a product from another company? Do you seriously think that the other company won't sue them? The same applies here. Would you feel alright if someone re-released one of your textures and had twice the number of downloads YOUR texture had? Would you be able to accept that the texture YOU put work and effort in was just slightly edited and now someone is more popular than you because of YOUR hard work? I wouldn't. And if you are ok with it, I can assure you that most people in this community aren't.

Hacking is a hobby, And as such hacks are made and used for the purpose of having fun. Hacks are not works of art. They're not made simply just to look at them, Or to decorate your house. They are made, And used, To have fun with while playing the game. If someone decides to edit the another persons hack to match their own personal preference then that's fine. And If that person decides to be a nice person and release It to the public so other people can use too, Then that's fine too. Just as long as their is credit given for the original work. Which is actually hypocritical since nobody ever gives credit to the original creators of the game.

Maybe you see it as a hobby, but there are a lot of people here in this community. There are people who take this very seriously and make textures for people to enjoy, but they make them to enjoy their selves too. Plagiarism is something that doesn't let them do that. It prevents the joy of being proud of your job from occurring, and causes a lot of sadness and rage.

I'm fine with people wanting to change some textures to match their personal preference, but if they want to release it, they should talk with the one that made the texture first. It's just fair.

Let's think about this, We have taken, And used as a base, Just about every single file on the Brawl disc. And yet, The only thing we ever credit Sakurai for is tripping. If what you say is true, Then no one would ever be able to create a hack for this game since none of us have permission from the original creators to do so. A hack would need to be a completely original model, With It's own textures, Moveset, And animations. And even then, We are still modifying a game without permission from the original creators to do so.

Once again, nobody could care less about this. Since this is pretty much the same talk as the first paragraph, I'll be moving on.

Now picture this, A hack user requests an edit of Hacker B's work. Hacker A agrees to make It and asks Hack B for permission. Hacker B says no which leaves Hacker A to tell the hack requester "Sorry, I can't make It because he says I can't". In this situation who loses out? The user. Removing a hack does not benefit the original creator in any way, And It only deprives the user of happiness. Is It really worth It to deprive users of happiness just because of something like "Permission"? If this was credit we were talking about, I would completely agree that credit should be given where It's due. As long as proper credit is given, There shouldn't be a problem.

"Hacker B" has all the right to stop HIS texture from being released to the public. It's his texture, after all. Nothing is stopping "Hacker A" from making his own version for personal use, or to distribute it in a PM (to a single person, not more).

I've seen hacks I've made edited, And I don't say a word. I'm just happy that people even use It. Can't you just take the satisfaction of knowing you've made people happy and let it be enough rather than having to let everyone know you made It possible first? The fact that people make edits to your hack means that It's good. If It wasn't good, Then they wouldn't even use It let alone want to change It, And It would be ignored. Most people don't edit hacks to screw the original creator over. It's ether "I want to change It to my liking", "I want to make a package for people who want to use this on every slot", Or "I want to improve It".

Well, as I've said before, maybe you don't really care about it, but other people do. Want to improve it? Ask for permission. Want to change it to your liking? Ask for permission. Want to make a package for people that want to use this on every slot? Ask for permission. Of course, you always have the option to do it without permission, but only for your personal use.

One last thing: There is no such thing as "Baseless" in this community. We use work from Nintendo (including other Wii games) as a base no matter what because we can't make a completely new file. With Brawlbox It's possible, But nobody does that regardless, And we still need a MDL0 file. And I doubt anyone would ever ask Nintendo for permission. The only hacks we don't need bases for are BRSTMs and THPs, Because we can create them without one. However, We always use a song or movie that we didn't create ourselves. And a texture hack (Or vertex hack) no matter what will use a Nintendo made MDL0 file. So even If everything is edited, Effort would still have been put in by Nintendo. I don't think I need to say anymore, I believe I've made my point.

Once again. Nobody could care less about it. Do you realize you said this in three of your paragraphs? There's no need to be so repetitive, we get your idea.

I took the time to write this so that maybe you can consider the existence of someone else that's not you. That whole post was "I don't care", "I wouldn't", "I'm fine with it", "I can", and so on. Have you ever considered someone else's opinion? I guess not.

I wanted to say something here because of a little problem that has been showing up recently.

Staff members have no right to break the rules, period. We are here to make sure people follow them, but we need to follow them ourselves. If you see a staff member breaking a rule, please don't hesitate in reporting him, or PMing another admin or mod about it. That way, we can stop certain people from abusing their powers and we can ensure that the rules will be applied to EVERY member in this community, regardless of his/her position.

Thank you :P

No, no. You got me wrong. If the vertex hack has edited textures, you can go ahead and move it. What I was trying to say is that you have to make sure you're only posting vertex hacks (with or without textures).

If we already have an established thread in Texture Hacks that has both textures and vertex hacks, do we have to move the vertex hacks here?

I'd say yes (it's more convenient), but it's your decision. If you are going to do it, make sure you're only moving the vertex hacks and not the texture hacks ;D.

Just a small announcement ;D.

We now have a section for vertex hacks! That's right, no more posting vertex hacks on the "On-Topic Discussion" boards!

It's quite small at the moment, but I'm sure that you guys can contribute to make it bigger :angel:.

Well, that's all. Enjoy the new board of the forum! (or else)

Nice. I'll happily replace Peach with this.

Go online in MSN... I'll guide you through it.

*facepalm*