SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af:

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The point is, replacing the Fighting Alloy Team will probably never be possible.
And if you would replace them, you would indeed mess up Multi Man Brawl.

[Oshtoby]

What if we replaced all the Alloys with different costumes (as well as a copied fighter .PAC) of the same new character? That way we'd at least get ONE new character.

But wouldnt just be even more work?

How so? It would be more space on your SD card, yes, but not more work. You'd only have to patch ONE module file. You would just have to copy the fighter .PAC for each of the 4 costume slots. You wouldn't have to patch the fighter .PACs. Only the module.

@ds22: I am going to try it tonight, when I get home from work. I don't think anyone will/should have faith in me, but I will try, none the less. Gives me something to do. I mean, there has to be a way. I refuse to believe that anything is not possible. There is a difference between probable and possible.

[DMN666]

The point is, replacing the Fighting Alloy Team will probably never be possible.
And if you would replace them, you would indeed mess up Multi Man Brawl.

^I was thinking the same thing.
But i dont play that mode either way >_>

@Oshtoby:Go for it man :P

[Ultraxwing]

It would be nice.

either way. now once Phantomwing's releases the character module patcher. then well, i think making tons of Marth or ike PSA'S will no longer matter.

[BlueBrain]

but, will module patching also solve the sfx/gfx problem?

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Just tried out a patched Ike module over the red Alloy.
Didn't work.

@Jokekid
No, it will not.
A code to change the soundbank is required to fix that.

[Ultraxwing]

oh well. it's better to have Naruto or Sasuke, not to say what they say. thougy my NTSU copy of Brawl is in Japanese sounds, really doesn't make Naruto sound so ghey.

i'll just wait and anticipate for brawl module replacments.

[Oshtoby]

but, will module patching also solve the sfx/gfx problem?

Sound effects? I don't think it would, as we would still need a new SFX bank for the character to point to. Maybe we could use a code, or something to ADD more soundbanks, but other than that, I can't see

Just tried out a patched Ike module over the red Alloy.
Didn't work.

@Jokekid
No, it will not.
A code to change the soundbank is required to fix that.

Well, Ike has articles (I.E: his up-B sword). I wouldn't think he'd work. I would try Jigglypuff/Marth. I'll see later tonight.

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As long as the original template (Ike in this case) is on the field as well, it doesn't matter if the clone has articles or not.
It should work in those conditions. (as seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP1AszZGiT0 )
If it doesn't, it means it isn't replaceable.

[Ultraxwing]

Yeah i figured that much out.

so yeah, just wait for the module patch. then we can hope for an official Clone engine in the future after this.

[Oshtoby]

As long as the original template (Ike in this case) is on the field as well, it doesn't matter if the clone has articles or not.
It should work in those conditions. (as seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP1AszZGiT0 )
If it doesn't, it means it isn't replaceable.

Ah, I see. Alright then. Point dismissed.

[BlueBrain]

about gfx and sfx, just like when regular porting, without module files, the original needs to be in battle in order to load the correct sfx and gfx files, right?
but that should be easy to fix trhough codes, just like the music replacement for hannenbow... ^^

[Ultraxwing]

In theory i guess.

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Generally GFX are loaded just fine, no patching needed (most likely for both external graphics and swordglow).
SFX are loaded from soundbanks, which needs additional coding to get it loaded properly.

[Elb]

So is the fact that you can only use a clone with a different moveset when the original character is on screen caused by articles on the replacement character? Sorry if that's been answered already; I read through the thread and I wasn't totally clear on that.

Also, what're the chances of this working with Brawl +/-?