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    « Reply #2010 on: July 11, 2011, 12:36:53 PM »


    I'm finishing the model rebuilder.

    No more code fixes and no more updates until it works. Every time I update, I have to change code around to make the source stable, since the model rebuilder doesn't work yet.

    If you've got a problem, post it in the help thread. Don't pm me to help you fix it, I'm tired of that. If there's some kind of fatal error, post it on the thread, don't pm me. I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but it's for the benefit of everyone. I need to focus on the task at hand, not add requests and fix errors.

    I just want to get a freakin' DAE into Brawl. I've already added tons of features for you guys, you don't need any more for a while.

    This post wasn't directed at anyone in particular, I just get way too many random requests and pms about problems. Tongue

    No, i need to FIX the animations. I offered to fix them for the project. BUT whenever i do fix a frame, and go back to that frame after i fix a few more, it resets to its original position. Ive had to fix [censored] like 4 times now and its really pissing me off!

    Use [censored] Brawlbox v0.63d, problem solved.
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    « Reply #2011 on: July 11, 2011, 02:36:30 PM »


    I have to agree with BlackJax96. Like half the people in the thread aren't having any problems with the importer, so I wouldn't just give up on the Collada format. You can't really come this far just to start over, especially when the problem with the variation of the format can be easily worked around.

    Also ds22 pm me that model of yours and I'll see if I can tell ya what's goin' on.

    All i fuxin did was ask a question so chill the fux out! So then the problem is your brlbx? or no?

    Also as Tcll stated, your problem isn't brawlbox at all. You need to delete some of those keyframes you're making otherwise your bones are just going to warp since they don't have any in-between frames to interpolate.
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    « Reply #2012 on: July 11, 2011, 02:48:16 PM »


    @Justin712
    Sent you the model.
    Hopefully you can get it to work.
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    « Reply #2013 on: July 11, 2011, 03:00:27 PM »


    Also ds22 pm me that model of yours and I'll see if I can tell ya what's goin' on.

    Hopefully you can get ds22's model to import. We've been unable to import it for months now, and still don't really know why O_o

    Also, I've made some progress on the model rebuilder. I'll upload a model and two objects that were created by Brawlbox in a minute. The model still has errors writing bones though, and I still have to figure some things out in the objects, like the vertex specs, vertex format flags, and an area below the influence indexes that contains more flags.
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    « Reply #2014 on: July 11, 2011, 03:20:07 PM »


    So basically, if it doesn't work with this anymore, go back to BrawlBox .63d and try again.
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    « Reply #2015 on: July 11, 2011, 03:29:21 PM »


    Wow, I know what you mean. It took me about an hour to get it to import. The cause of the problem is that his model uses multiple textures per object, and as you stated earlier the mdl0 format only supports 1 per object. I had to reassign 3 different default gray 3ds max materials to each of the objects. Also the mesh wasn't really skinned to the brawl skeleton, and it was just sorta floating over it, so I replaced that with a single bone to make sure that didn't cause any problems. If I had access to the textures for this model I could see whether it affected them at all. My guess would be that his eyes might not have the right textures or something, but it could be that there aren't any problems at all.

    Also once the model is actually rigged perfectly to the brawl skeleton I'll re-import it using that for ya.
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    « Reply #2016 on: July 11, 2011, 03:32:55 PM »


    So basically, if it doesn't work with this anymore, go back to BrawlBox .63d and try again.


    Yeah. I'm not working on anything other than the model rebuilder. I have to finish this thing.

    Here's some test exports. Two objects and the mdl0. The mdl0 will say corrupted if you open it in Brawlbox, so the only way to see the progress I've made is in a hex editor.
    http://www.mediafire.com/?65kjohqdbqmlagw

    Also once the model is actually rigged perfectly to the brawl skeleton I'll re-import it using that for ya.


    You sir, are epic. Do you have a lot of experience in 3ds Max? You could probably help a lot of people here get models ready to import into Brawl.
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    « Reply #2017 on: July 11, 2011, 03:38:56 PM »


    Wow, I know what you mean. It took me about an hour to get it to import. The cause of the problem is that his model uses multiple textures per object, and as you stated earlier the mdl0 format only supports 1 per object. I had to reassign 3 different default gray 3ds max materials to each of the objects. Also the mesh wasn't really skinned to the brawl skeleton, and it was just sorta floating over it, so I replaced that with a single bone to make sure that didn't cause any problems. If I had access to the textures for this model I could see whether it affected them at all. My guess would be that his eyes might not have the right textures or something, but it could be that there aren't any problems at all.

    Also once the model is actually rigged perfectly to the brawl skeleton I'll re-import it using that for ya.

    So you actually got to import, just without the Ike skeleton?
    Also, if you need the textures, you can get them from this DL: http://www.models-resource.com/wii_gamecube/narutoclashoftheninjarevolution3/sheet/1124
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    « Reply #2018 on: July 11, 2011, 03:41:46 PM »


    You sir, are epic. Do you have a lot of experience in 3ds Max? You could probably help a lot of people here get models ready to import into Brawl.

    Hahaha, yeah I do actually. I've been on a lot of mod teams for Warcraft 3 and Valve's Source games.

    Also the progress on that model rebuilder sounds pretty promising. Keep it up!

    So you actually got to import, just without the Ike skeleton?

    Yeah, but it's not the Ike skeleton causing the problems it's actually the textures. I'll rig the model correctly for ya after I see that I can import it with those textures you just gave me correctly.

    Edit: Oh man the person who textured this did NOT make this easy hahaha. I think I might have to redo some of the uvs on this one too. Scratch that, the 3 diffuses are made perfectly this should be easy Smiley
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    « Reply #2019 on: July 11, 2011, 03:49:26 PM »


    Anyway, thank you for taking time to help me out with this problem (a problem which haunted both me and BJ96).
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    « Reply #2020 on: July 11, 2011, 03:51:37 PM »


    No problem Smiley
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    « Reply #2021 on: July 11, 2011, 03:55:57 PM »


    Justin712, could you fix this model up if you have the time:
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5869687/ApSciModel.zip
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    « Reply #2022 on: July 11, 2011, 04:04:16 PM »


    All fixed! Just needs Ike's skeleton.


    Justin712, could you fix this model up if you have the time


    Sure, I'll take a look at it.
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    « Reply #2023 on: July 11, 2011, 04:06:24 PM »


    Justin712, could you fix this model up if you have the time:
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5869687/ApSciModel.zip



    No textures?
    Edit: No bones either?


    Just opened your model as xml. All the tags are reversed, except for asset and scene.

    <COLLADA version="1.4.1">
    <asset></asset>
    <library_visual_scenes></library_visual_scenes>
    <library_geometries></library_geometries>
    <library_materials></library_materials>
    <library_effects></library_effects>
    <library_images></library_images>
    <scene></scene>
    </COLLADA>

    You're gonna have to do some quick switching.

    All fixed! Just needs Ike&#039;s skeleton.



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    « Reply #2024 on: July 11, 2011, 04:17:21 PM »


    All fixed! Just needs Ike's skeleton.


    Sure, I'll take a look at it.

    Sweet!
    But are you going to use the skeleton I included or are you going to try and get a new one (just asking to make sure)?
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