Demonslayerx8 says:
Waluigiking64DS says:
hey
Demonslayerx8 says:
there ya go every1!
Velen says:
...I wanna mess around with this textures.
*Those
Waluigiking64DS says:
HADOUKEN
Demonslayerx8 says:
and hi MK
Sai has been added to the conversation.
Velen says:
What was that all about?
Sai says:
?
Waluigiking64DS says:
*pikmin Music with Ryu*
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Demonslayerx8 says:
heh yeah
i didnt want to SAKURAI!!!!!!!! with the codes -_-
Jiro says:
And um... Don't mind these people, they're just um... Putting down vex editing in general.
And saying how much they all suck.
Sai says:
what plpz?
and yes, most vertex edits kinda are pretty bad
Demonslayerx8 says:
ya
Jiro says:
Man... You guys are harsh... <_<;
Demonslayerx8 says:
lol
Velen says:
It's true on some level, though Data.
Sai says:
would u rather have us be brutally honest or telling lies?
Velen says:
Honest is better than brutally honest.
Sai says:
Pik says:
90% of brawl hacks suck ass
Velen says:
No "And/Or" Fallacies please.
Pik says:
And that includes mine
Sai says:
i dont think its THAT high
Jiro says:
Damn... Why are you in here? Downer much? <_<;
Velen says:
Me either.
Sai says:
but it still is pretty high
Pik says:
No, I mean
Jiro says:
Seriously...
Pik says:
None of them are truly good.
Velen says:
What.
Jiro says:
They're good for WHAT YOU CAN DO.
Velen says:
Just. What?
Pik says:
Which isn't good enough
Jiro says:
HELLO! Shesh, shut the hell up! >_<;
Pik says:
We understand the limitations, therefore can appreciate them
But to people outside, they usually suck
A lot of them do
Jiro says:
God, you're being TOO much of a downer...
Pik says:
And will continue to suck until normal editing comes out
It's only the truth
and why I've stopped hacking so often
Jiro says:
I don't need to hear it every time you're in here. <_<;
Pik says:
It's all fun
Demonslayerx8 says:
o.o
Sai says:
I agree
Pik says:
I don't mention it every single time
Sai says:
but i still hack since its fun
Pik says:
infact, I think this it the first where I've gone into detail
Jiro says:
Oh yeah, they have shading problems, they SUCK ASS, yeah, cool story bro.
Pik says:
yeah. It's good for fun.
Shading problems are a big deal
Sai says:
^
Pik says:
are you kidding?
and shut up about 'cool story bro'
that's dead
Velen says:
Well, guess what. Even if Normal's editting comes out, it will still be so poorly understood by people who have not worked on it that in the long run it will seem impractical until someone comes up with a simplified process.
Pik says:
I hate to be so harsh
Jiro says:
The stop.
...
Pik says:
But yeah...I guess I should apologize?
Jiro says:
*Then
Pik says:
Stop?
But it's only the truth
And before
we were talking about the truth
Jiro says:
Picky...
Pik says:
It's not being picky
compare a brawl model to a hack
Jiro says:
OCD.
Pik says:
the hack NEVER holds up
Demonslayerx8 says:
well maybe some ppl dont want to hear u ranting bout it -_-
Pik says:
that's cool
and true
I doubt most of you want to hear this
Demonslayerx8 says:
i kno i dont
Jiro says:
Uh no, we really don't.
Velen says:
Its the same with vertexers. The reason there aren't many vertexers is because many people find it tedious and the ins and outs of what can and cannot be done are poorly understood.
Pik says:
I think I've gotten my point across, but w/e
why are you so against me saying this anyway?
It's my honest opinion
Velen says:
When something is poorly understood, people will find it impractical.
Pik says:
Brawl hackers are skilled people, the limitations hold them down
Velen says:
Not all of them are as skilled as you think Pik.
Jiro says:
It's annoying, that's why, I mean, yes, there are shading problems, I know, but there's no way to edit that yet, you putting down every hack out there... That's a low blow.
Pik says:
I'm not insulting the people that made them, or the stuff they can control
Sai says:
well when (if this ever comes to fruition) we can make our own models, things will change
but thats a long time from now
Pik says:
I'm just saying that the limitations make their work worse
Sai says:
if at all
Pik says:
Anyway, I suggest we move on
Jiro says:
But I still wouldn't say they suck ass though...
Pik says:
I'm exaggerating
I play with a lot of hacks and enjoy them, but it's a shame they aren't at their full potential
Velen says:
Pik.
Demonslayerx8 says:
pik... quit it...
please...
Sai says:
like when I look at a vertex hack, I think "Thats good from what we can do"
Velen says:
Whether or not they are at there full potential is subjective.
To the person who makes them and the persons who observe them.
That is fact.
Pik says:
Yeah, Demon, I kinda planned on stopping
and I understand Velen
but again. I'm not attacking anyone.
if you don't think the limitations are crippling, I don't know
Gengar with overall tattoos is 'full potential'
Again though
Let's just move on
I worded things too harsh and focused too much on the bad things
And was probably a [censored] while doing it
Velen says:
...I don't even need to answer that...
Anyway...There is another thing I want to ask about...
Pik says:
Answer what? :\
nvm
Velen says:
Who here can help me with UV editting something? I want to fix something on a hack improvement I am doing for Miacis.