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    « Reply #3300 on: August 31, 2011, 11:56:33 PM »


    BJ96, did you get my pm? If you did, did it make any sense? I feel like it was worded terribly.

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    « Reply #3301 on: September 01, 2011, 01:43:11 AM »


    I like the small things that you've added, like the floor being an actual floor where the foot clips it. Made it much easier to prevent clipping. Also the frame rate feels much more brawl speed then the last BB did for me. Only 2 complaints: Could you make it an option to show bones while animating? I like the idea that's already there, but I like to watch the bones at the same time sometimes. Also the Undo button's a bit... wonky... I moved something and wanted to undo it, and it does the move by steps, instead of memorizing the original position of the angle before the click and after the click. Else feels good. The Animation crew'll like this.

    .....Is it me, or is the Camera line even harder to click now?
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    « Reply #3302 on: September 01, 2011, 01:56:00 AM »


    Alright, well I bet I can guess what your problem was. The entire model for Ganon's tower was one texture right?

    The problem was that it used a multi-subobject material, which combines all the textures into one "library" material. This is pretty convenient if you have a lot of textures, but Brawl doesn't understand those, which is why you need everything to be a separate object and a separate material.

    DSX8's Ganon's Tower stage:

    That's going to be a pretty awesome stage Laugh

    So here's a quick tutorial for those of you who have the same problem where brawlbox applies one texture to everything:

    (Thanks to DSX8 for providing the Old Chaos Shrine stage as an example.)

    First off, I'm going to open the model in 3ds max and go into the editable mesh tab. If it's an editable poly, that's fine too. Just follow along using the polygon subcategory. Next, we're going to select the face subcategory and scroll down to the material ID section like in this picture.

    Underneath select ID there will be a drop down list of all of the material IDs in the scene. If there isn't, simply use the box right above it and type in the numbers one at a time, selecting them using the "select ID" button.

    Next, we're going to right click and hit the detach button from the menu that pops up.

    For the name, it's best to choose one you will recognize by it's material ID. This will make it easier when you're fixing the materials later in BrawlBox.

    Basically what we just did was select each individual polygon based on it's texture and then separate it out into it's own object, so later they will each have their own material slots.

    Now it's time to export. Make sure you select the Autodesk Collada exporter mentioned in the opening post.

    Your options should look about the same as mine. The only thing that might be different is the up axis. Brawl will automatically rotate the model forward 90 degrees since it uses a Y-up axis system.
    (I left mine as Z-up because the model I'm editing was taken from a game where Y is already the up-axis. Leaving it as Z-up will ensure no rotation occurs.)

    After importing it to BrawlBox, if you preview the model you'll probably be thinking that didn't fix the problem at all, but there's actually one more step. Unfortunately if there's a lot of textures it can be pretty tedious.
    Here's an example of what this tutorial was made to help you fix:

    Now for each object we need to select it and make it reference the proper material. To do this, we select each object under the mdl0 category and change the material from the drop-down menu. You should have 3ds max still open so you can see which material ID uses which texture.

    Since this model had 35 textures, it took quite a while to track down which material goes where, but here's the finished result:

    And there ya have it - fixing single models that have multiple textures.

    Let me know if anything is a bit unclear. Smiley
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    « Reply #3303 on: September 01, 2011, 02:11:21 AM »


    I can finally see the textures I received in my parents' computer, but I can't see the DAE that I exported myself with 3DS Max Tongue I tried to load animations from a .PAC file and tried to animate Terra, but it didn't worked XD  Well at least I have 2 working models, but I can't add/edit bones, though.

    ...and next time, read carefully, because it was a message for Justin.
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    « Reply #3304 on: September 01, 2011, 07:45:37 AM »


    THE MODEL IMPORTER DOES NOT WORK YET!!! Mario Facepalm
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    « Reply #3305 on: September 01, 2011, 08:04:03 AM »


    You can't export imported DAE's successfully.

    Trust me, I've tried.
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    « Reply #3306 on: September 01, 2011, 08:56:59 AM »


    Suddenly I don't think releasing it to the public was a good idea since nobody bothers to listen.
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    « Reply #3307 on: September 01, 2011, 09:13:08 AM »


    Suddenly I don't think releasing it to the public was a good idea since nobody bothers to listen.
    ^ this lol
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    « Reply #3308 on: September 01, 2011, 09:35:54 AM »


    Suddenly I don't think releasing it to the public was a good idea since nobody bothers to listen.

    i was thinking the same thing-.-
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    « Reply #3309 on: September 01, 2011, 09:36:30 AM »


    This was to be expected.

    No one reads instructions anymore.
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    « Reply #3310 on: September 01, 2011, 10:12:51 AM »


    Quote from: NaruZeldaMaster link=topic=17547.msg659341#msg659341 date=1
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    Hm, it was between me and Justin, and I was talking about exporting models with 3DS Max, not BrawlBox. Im srs here I only imported the model in BrawlBox to see what it looked like, and I never tried to export anything with BB. AND I was talking to Justin, since he helped me out.
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    « Reply #3311 on: September 01, 2011, 03:45:32 PM »


    IMO: that's why releasing to the public was a dumb idea... Undecided
    I voted for him to finish the rebuilder first, and it was stated more than enough times... heh Tongue

    as for myself...
    I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I'm afraid I won't be on too often,
    let alone making progress on my end...
    see inside if you're curious:
    I'm currently homeless and making contact only by a lucky shot at my chance on a library computer.
    my friend's parents decided to take away the last thing they could from me which was their PS3
    (my only method of making contact)

    so after about 2 days, we decided to take a little of our own, just to get back at them...
    (after practically bowing down to them and kissing their feet)

    so my mom decided to step in and take my 32" TV I let them use.
    that then caused an issue and my friend's mom decided to say that we had 3 days to get out.
    they then changed their minds that night and said we had 2 days, after we did literally nothing to them...
    then the next morning they decided to kick us out that day, and threatened to throw our stuff to the curb if we didn't have it out that night.
    (it takes us about 3 days to get everything)

    so I'm still friends with my friend, but his parents can kiss my butt.
    (we're currently on the streets looking for a shelter (staying at random places for the night))

    and sry 404 XDD
    I'm at a compy, yes, but I don't have my data... let alone a flash drive or SD *sulks in failure*
    so yeh... no data for you atm, but I promise it will come Smiley
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    « Reply #3312 on: September 01, 2011, 03:55:57 PM »


    IMO: that's why releasing to the public was a dumb idea... Undecided
    I voted for him to finish the rebuilder first, and it was stated more than enough times... heh Tongue

    as for myself...
    I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I'm afraid I won't be on too often,
    let alone making progress on my end...
    see inside if you're curious:
    I'm currently homeless and making contact only by a lucky shot at my chance on a library computer.
    my friend's parents decided to take away the last thing they could from me which was their PS3
    (my only method of making contact)

    so after about 2 days, we decided to take a little of our own, just to get back at them...
    (after practically bowing down to them and kissing their feet)

    so my mom decided to step in and take my 32" TV I let them use.
    that then caused an issue and my friend's mom decided to say that we had 3 days to get out.
    they then changed their minds that night and said we had 2 days, after we did literally nothing to them...
    then the next morning they decided to kick us out that day, and threatened to throw our stuff to the curb if we didn't have it out that night.
    (it takes us about 3 days to get everything)

    so I'm still friends with my friend, but his parents can kiss my butt.
    (we're currently on the streets looking for a shelter (staying at random places for the night))

    and sry 404 XDD
    I'm at a compy, yes, but I don't have my data... let alone a flash drive or SD *sulks in failure*
    so yeh... no data for you atm, but I promise it will come Smiley
    that's pretty sad story D:
    good luck to you
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    « Reply #3313 on: September 01, 2011, 04:16:17 PM »


    yeh... thanx Smiley
    hope to have one better myself...
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    « Reply #3314 on: September 01, 2011, 04:40:05 PM »


    IMO: that's why releasing to the public was a dumb idea... Undecided
    I voted for him to finish the rebuilder first, and it was stated more than enough times... heh Tongue

    as for myself...
    I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I'm afraid I won't be on too often,
    let alone making progress on my end...
    see inside if you're curious:
    I'm currently homeless and making contact only by a lucky shot at my chance on a library computer.
    my friend's parents decided to take away the last thing they could from me which was their PS3
    (my only method of making contact)

    so after about 2 days, we decided to take a little of our own, just to get back at them...
    (after practically bowing down to them and kissing their feet)

    so my mom decided to step in and take my 32" TV I let them use.
    that then caused an issue and my friend's mom decided to say that we had 3 days to get out.
    they then changed their minds that night and said we had 2 days, after we did literally nothing to them...
    then the next morning they decided to kick us out that day, and threatened to throw our stuff to the curb if we didn't have it out that night.
    (it takes us about 3 days to get everything)

    so I'm still friends with my friend, but his parents can kiss my butt.
    (we're currently on the streets looking for a shelter (staying at random places for the night))

    and sry 404 XDD
    I'm at a compy, yes, but I don't have my data... let alone a flash drive or SD *sulks in failure*
    so yeh... no data for you atm, but I promise it will come Smiley

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    that's real f'd up....good luck.
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