Brawlbox Resources & History

[diedhammer98]

I did tried Hurbox editor.
It worked on Tabuu and Hammer Bro.

[DarkPikachu]

EFLS - Effect List
REFF - Reference Effect Files
REFT - Reference Effect Textures

It all makes sense now.

Btw, has anybody tried the hurtbox editor? Hurtbox changes do save, you know...

yea, either Reference or Resource
either works >_>

[Sky Grounder]

So what's the difference between EFLS and RE3D?

[BlackJax96]

So what's the difference between EFLS and RE3D?

RE3D could be like, Reference 3d or something. Maybe it references a model? I'd have to look at RE3D more, all I've done so far is set up the structs.

[Xiggah]

The STDT? It's already supported in Bero's Modset. BJ just have to port it to his Brawlbox.
Also, for those who don't know, what it does have is values for certain stages that modifies things such as:
Water current, water level (Jungle Japes)
Scroll speed, Brick health (Mushroomy Kingdom)
and much, much more. Most of it isn't documented (still unknown).

Yeah, I mean to say that I know what a lot of them are, helping with the documentation and labeling what each value is in each stage.


Also, I only tried the hurtbox editor once with Pit, but I didn't manage to get them to show, I probably didn't do it right.

[Sky Grounder]

Yeah, I mean to say that I know what a lot of them are, helping with the documentation and labeling what each value is in each stage.

Ah, then share your knowledge


Also, can REFF reference textures from the ef_common? (Just a small thought)

[BlackJax96]

Ah, then share your knowledge


Also, can REFF reference textures from the ef_common? (Just a small thought)

Dunno.

I just fixed that "Warning: Null not supported by COLLADA. Node <name> will lose its geometric information. The node transforms will be saved." error.

Whenever I would remove a bone from the skin modifier, like XRotN, that error would show up and the model wouldn't import into Brawlbox, even if I had set all vertices that use that bone to weight 0. I figured out that Collada doesn't add type="JOINT" to the bone which misleads Brawlbox, so Brawlbox adds it now if the node has a bindmatrix (objects don't have bindmatrices).

I'll test some more models but it seems to work. I'll update the download again in a bit.

[DarkPikachu]

Also, can REFF reference textures from the ef_common? (Just a small thought)

I saw some strings in one of Pika's REFF files that were named after a few common files >_>
but IDK if those were the same names in the REFT...

either that or I did see an REFT in one of the common data's >_>
(one of the REFT's holding CI4 and CI8 formats (as well as over 100 images))

[Sky Grounder]

I saw some strings in one of Pika's REFF files that were named after a few common files >_>
but IDK if those were the same names in the REFT...

either that or I did see an REFT in one of the common data's >_>
(one of the REFT's holding CI4 and CI8 formats (as well as over 100 images))

Well I saw some file references in C. Falcon's REFF file, which were named ptc_cmn_dead.
Which again is a REFTexture in ef_common (it didn't exist in C. Falcon's files.

[Spex130]

Hey again, BJ. I've been looking through the new BB and it looks AWESOME.

Two questions, however. (Everybody has them, right? )

I don't know if these have been asked before, but:

1. Why is it not possible to edit Models edited with FortWaffles Bone adder?

2. Would it be possible to change the bone the Articles attach to, like in Tabuu?
(An example would be Diddy's Popgun, or Mario's cape.)

[BlackJax96]

Hey again, BJ. I've been looking through the new BB and it looks AWESOME.

Two questions, however. (Everybody has them, right? )

I don't know if these have been asked before, but:

1. Why is it not possible to edit Models edited with FortWaffles Bone adder?

2. Would it be possible to change the bone the Articles attach to, like in Tabuu?
(An example would be Diddy's Popgun, or Mario's cape.)

1. His bone adder doesn't edit the NodeTree, and the new Brawlbox uses the NodeTree to link the bones instead of the offset values in each bone.

2. Eventually

[diedhammer98]

After I used Object Importer (I know it's still in Development)
My test Models messed up.
then I see this:

I think It's Materials is messed up or something.

[BlackJax96]

After I used Object Importer (I know it's still in Development)
My test Models messed up.
then I see this:

I think It's Materials is messed up or something.

That's not a bug, it just renames the object.

[Xiggah]

Hey BJ, I noticed that the Brawlbox beta displays models such as the cartoony Wind Waker trophies differently: I viewed Tingle, and the shadermap textures are off by default, but display no difference when turned on. (Also, Tingle's Textures display differently, but you probably already know) So here are my 3 questions:

1. Will there be any support to view the cell-shading on models like Tingle in Brawlbox?
2. Just saying that some transparencies preview better on the old Brawlbox, but you should already know.
3. Will the wireframe view make a return?

[BlackJax96]

Hey BJ, I noticed that the Brawlbox beta displays models such as the cartoony Wind Waker trophies differently: I viewed Tingle, and the shadermap textures are off by default, but display no difference when turned on. (Also, Tingle's Textures display differently, but you probably already know) So here are my 3 questions:

1. Will there be any support to view the cell-shading on models like Tingle in Brawlbox?
2. Just saying that some transparencies preview better on the old Brawlbox, but you should already know.
3. Will the wireframe view make a return?

1. Eventually yes
2. I didn't know
3. It left?