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[DarkPikachu]

>:3
congrats on the find BJ

and now I'm even more convinced my research is correct and MDL0's don't use materials.
(the material is the shader entirely)
^all of the functions that fall upon the shader are in this data block

buuut, I'll hold off on that until every last unknown is figured out...
but for me, since I see nothing figured out about the material,
it would be wize to simply change the label to it's proper term.

[Hubert Oswell]

I voted for REL :3

Don't shoot. That option is on the poll!

[DarkPikachu]

ROFL at your ava Innerscope XDD
why I go for Complexity >:3
it's fun and (if done correctly) usually always right.

EDIT:
yeh...
recent discoveries have just told me you can't have the material only or the shader only...
they're always combined...

Materials define the optical properties of an object, while
Shaders determine how the appearance of a material varies with the angle of the light.

so the material values must be somewhere in those unknowns

now... fur (what I was talking about much much earlier) is actually a particle system.
this supposedly isn't supported yet by wii...
along with ray-tracing and halo-rendering.

[E-scope12]

Can do

They seem to be modified by an outside source in-game. There are 3 Color and 4 Konstant Color Registers. I suspect that CLR0 modifies the Konstant or Color registers, but I'm not sure. I think the Color registers are used as some kind of a default color for the shader's output registers.

What I DO know though, is that the shader (in my terms) stages definitely uses those registers. They can be used as input values. I've said this before and I'll say it again, there are usually 3 stages at the end of any Brawl shader. They control model flashing when respawning, doing a special, or w/e else, and use the Konstant Color registers and the Color2 register as input.

As for specular, ambient and diffuse, I think they're located in the Lighting section in the material. That's literally the ONLY unknown section of the entire MDL0 left...

>.>
It's not really that hard to get the outline working. It's just hard to keep the lighting not too bright and not too dark. And there are no float values for the outline. It's in a sphere map texture that overlays the regular texture.

BlackJax96 How do you fix the texture glitches because when I rigged BGE Hillys over Halberd ship & I tried it in the game, there were soe texture gltches.

[BlackJax96]

From the Wii SDK

"The relocatable module system consists of a single static module (.elf file) and multiple relocatable modules (.rel files). Once the boot ROM loads the program's static module, the static module can control the memory location of the relocatable modules. The static module is built as a normal ELF file. The static module can contain common functions and common variables referenced by the relocatable modules."

In our case, the DOL would be the ELF file. Sounds like I'll have to parse DOL at the same time. At least I have the header. >.>

"Note: Global C++ constructors and destructors must be called explicitly from the relocatable module’s
_prolog and _epilog sections, respectively." I know where those sections are





I'd better release v0.66 soon so I can get working on this.

[Sky Grounder]

So Nico (is it your real name?) what's left to do and what do we need to figure out specifically?

[BlackJax96]

So Nico (is it your real name?) what's left to do and what do we need to figure out specifically?

No it's not my real name. It would be cool if it was though >.>

These are the remaining bugs:

- Ever since I switched SHP0 to the keyframe collection, it won't save. :/ Not sure why yet.
- SRT0 scaling displays incorrectly in the viewer. I've tried fixing it but it's just really odd. I'm thinking that Unknown might be Scale Y, but idk why they would be separated from each other in the flags when the Translation X and Y aren't separated. I don't think I'll be able to fix this before release, but scale isn't used that much anyway...

These are the things I haven't done yet:

- The object duplicator and importer are just [censored]. If I try to do anything to try to fix them, the external polygon that was imported is disposed and that means the imported polygon is disposed also. Using MemberWiseClone() is the only thing that works, but it doesn't clone the attached material and bone node correctly, which is why you have to fix them manually. I'll just leave it as-is...

- Right clicking an animation in the viewer anim list and clicking "Create Corresponding [Anim Type]" won't do anything. It's actually hidden atm. Should take like 3 seconds to code in anyway.

- You can't add SHP0 entries in the model viewer, but you can just add the entries manually from the SHP0 node itself out of the viewer.

[Sky Grounder]

Also have you figured out more on the SCN0? I might take my time trying to test stuff on the wii tonight.

[Manki]

I managed to get source code on a rel viewer to load SS rels up. Do you want me to send you the source code?






Thread im currently in:http://forum.unseen64.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3051

[DarkPikachu]

hey BJ,
I might be able to lend you a hand with what's figured out from REL files.
(thank you PantomWings) =D

I've decompiled both of his REL programs and while you can't recompile them
(due to the base GUI functions being replaced with a "trial" message),
most of the REL parsing systems are in tact.
(I say 'most' because I havn't looked at everything yet) XDD

but I can send you the src's if you like.
how's that sound??

EDIT: (ninja'd)

I managed to get source code on a rel viewer to load SS rels up. Do you want me to send you the source code?

I'll have a copy plz (no "trial" messages in the script, and it's the original)
it'll be useful for the scripting functions for UGE

[Manki]

Sure thing, will P.M. you it.

[BlackJax96]

Everyone send me everything

Except I already have the original source of PW's module editor v1 and the exe-reversed source of v2.1 so don't send me those.

[DarkPikachu]

Except I already have the original source of PW's module editor v1 and the exe-reversed source of v2.1 so don't send me those.

well it looks like I'm out XD

but I only have a decompiled r1 of 2.1 so...
*cracks knuckles*
time to use the Tortise XD

[Carnage]

bj or nico lol  any chance you can understand what pw did to ike rel? so we can duplicate that rel on pal? it would be cool to have a tool like the stage switcher where both pal user and ntsc users could creat mk/jiggly/marth and ike rel over any chars  xD also if you figure it out how to add stage collisions stage imports would be a new gen when adding creatures that can damage  the players(imagine safron city with pokemons collisions )

[namq]

Hopefully .67 will also let us edit D3&pkmn trainer

1.3 mod it's great but copy paste causes freeze/corrupts the .pac

Everything has to be done from scratch on 1.3&1.3mod

I'll wait for the .67 :-)

Also, if .rels can actually make a character that don't have articles have them, I will so learn all about rel once .66 is out :-D

bj or nico lol  any chance you can understand what pw did to ike rel? so we can duplicate that rel on pal? it would be cool to have a tool like the stage switcher where both pal user and ntsc users could creat mk/jiggly/marth and ike rel over any chars  xD also if you figure it out how to add stage collisions stage imports would be a new gen when adding creatures that can damage  the players(imagine safron city with pokemons collisions )

This will be so cool!!! Saffron city with pokemons <3