[Official] Project M discussion: RIP

[nanobuds]

From what I've gathered, he's the person who was in charge with designing most of what the current Zelda moveset is. There's been some screenshots of a chatroom where he was talking about resigning because the backroom wants to turn "his" Zelda back into another of the Melee clones, or something like that. The guys on the reddit thread seemed pretty annoyed by a change like that.

You all know my opinion about reusing assets from Melee, but I just can't comprehend why there's such an urge to destroy good creative work like that. It's not really Falco anymore, when the team was trying to gather momentum for the birthing project. Now it's just legit going backwards.

No where in the chat did he say Zelda is being brought back to her "Melee" moveset.

[Miacis]

No where in the chat did he say Zelda is being brought back to her "Melee" moveset.

Kinda hard to counter-check my sources with the topic I skimmed over last night already down... What did he say then, and what's actually happening to Zelda that got him so bothered? .w.

[Vigilante]

The one who formulated the response was Vanguard, not me actually.

Someone took something Zhime said about Zelda and misinterpreted it and made a huge deal out of it. I'm not sure why it's been taken down, since we had no hand in this. Perhaps the user took it down himself? I'm not quite familiar with how Reddit works, but at the very least, I know we haven't removed it.

Unlike what was stated in the reddit post, we are still good friends with Zhime, but he has moved to Japan for a personal project of his, and he has less opportunities to work on and promote Project M. It sucks that he had to leave, because he's such a fun person to talk to, but we understand that he has his priorities and we wish him well (and we hope to talk to you soon again buddy).

Zhime himself responded that he bears no ill-will toward the PMBR for his leave and believes in this project. His only concern was that with Ryoko and himself being less involved, there isn't a dedicated Zelda player in the BR (albeit I'd like to say that Magus is an extremely talented Zelda user).

As for concerns about Zelda... they've been blown waaaay out of proportion, and the original poster as well as Zhime even admitted to that (thanks btw, that was cool of you). We're not making Melee Zelda again. That'd be the death of creativity. That wa smore of an assumption someone made along the line of discussion. Zhime never stated that.

I hope that cleared everything up, and thanks again for supporting Project M guys.

[Miacis]

(I'm sure Zhime will be delighted by such continuous outbursts of kindness, but is this really the place for the random 2nd-person praise...?)

Huh. Odd, I do remember talks about something with Zelda which was being changed and causing trouble, either in the chat logs or in Vanguard's post. (My bad on the name)

I didn't mean to imply it was closed by you though. It just seemed odd that the author closed it so fast.

[Vigilante]

That's okay, you are not the first to confuse Vanguard with me, lol.

And yeah, no trouble. Zhime came himself to fix the issue, people made assumptions on comments he made and blew it out of proportions, unfortunately.

As for why it was closed, I think that the author removed it at Zhime's request? I' not sure to be honest.

[Miacis]

There we go, found a link to the deleted thread now that I'm on my "good computer." And a link to the pictures too.

Edit: By an unfortunate turn of events, the aforementionned pictures seem to have ~mysteriously~ disappeared right after I posted here. No worries though, I've got this in the bag:

Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.

Zhime does seem to want to redirect any sort of drama from his public figure and the PMBR, but apparently I wasn't exactly wrong in saying his main reason for leaving the PMBR was because of a strong disagreement over design choices on Zelda. That Japan thing certainly doesn't seem like the main thing at all.

He also does seem to do a lot of damage control in that public post as opposed to that chat's brutal honesty. There's talk about it like it's been awhile and forgotten, but unless the OP is very much lying about the date, AND photoshopped the screenshots, he was still mad enough about it just recently. At least enough to empty his basket on a random internet player.

The Melee thing seems to have just been speculation though, which is probably why Nano only adressed that specific point. At least you guys seem to still be BFFs. That sure is at least consistant in every single post.

...Still kinda funny to see talks about "no ill-will" in public, and then "stupid/biased/they won't listen to me/I'm the one being targetted" being thrown around in private.

[dRage]

I'm suddenly reminded of that Kittyleaks disaster.

[ethanrodgers223]

So with these changes to Zelda, do you think we'll see a Phantom Slash move?

I would LOVE that. I really want to get accustomed to not using Sheik.

[Velen]

So with these changes to Zelda, do you think we'll see a Phantom Slash move?

I would LOVE that. I really want to get accustomed to not using Sheik.

Not happening dude. Trust me. Their aim isn't to do what the new Smash is doing if the way the movesets currently are is any indication. Not only that, giving Zelda the Phantom Slash would just be begging for a lawsuit.

[Chaos_Knight]

So with these changes to Zelda, do you think we'll see a Phantom Slash move?

I would LOVE that. I really want to get accustomed to not using Sheik.

Do you even know what the M in Project M stands for?

[Segtendo]

Not happening dude. Trust me. Their aim isn't to do what the new Smash is doing if the way the movesets currently are is any indication. Not only that,giving Zelda the Phantom Slash would just be begging for a lawsuit.

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[SiLeNtDo0m]

Do you even know what the M in Project M stands for?

Before you say Melee trying to be clever, it doesn't stand for Melee.  It's just an M.

[Miacis]

No matter the fact this project is exceedingly Melee-centric, and your Twitter and Youtube handles clearly say "ProjectMelee"?  r)

[Albafika]

Before you say Melee trying to be clever, it doesn't stand for Melee.  It's just an M.

Kind of odd to say, considering the old FAQ of Project M's initial release had this question:

Can I call this Melee 2.0?
Yes.

[Akeno/Archer]

Don't wanna add the fact that it's from one of their members...
Besides... Why would they take the "M" for only a letter when their own Wiki article says this:

Project M is a mod for Super Smash Bros. Brawl designed to make the gameplay more closely resemble that of Super Smash Bros. Melee mainly