KJP's Throne Room. 09/08/2019: Fighting Alloy Team Pack Update

[Total Voters: 43]

Out of the four members of the Fighting Alloy Team, which one is your favorite?

[Revan]

Since you are going to make her over Pit, will Palutena be friendly with Pits graphics so they don't have any issues when in a fight together?

[KingJigglypuff]

Since you are going to make her over Pit, will Palutena be friendly with Pits graphics so they don't have any issues when in a fight together?

I'll see what I can do about that.

[Revan]

Awesome, can't wait.

[JamietheAuraUser]

Like a ground version of Pit's Up Air?

Precisely.

Edit: Well, either that or like the ground version of Ichigo's Up Special from Super Smash Flash 2, if you've ever played that. The only real difference there is that Pit's Up Air holds the foe in and then spits 'em out at the end, while Ichigo's Up Special pushes the foe up and then bounces them off the top of the attack repeatedly. Pit's method is better for damage output, but Ichigo's could potentially be used to combo into Up Special if the opponent has already used their midair jump.

Or it could have a sweetspot at the attack's left and right edges thanks to the orb of light at the staff's tip, and hitting the opponent with the orb of light bounces them back and forth from the orb of light as it moves from one side of the attack to the other and back again (like Sora's Down Smash in Super Smash Flash 2).

[KingJigglypuff]

Precisely.

Edit: Well, either that or like the ground version of Ichigo's Up Special from Super Smash Flash 2, if you've ever played that. The only real difference there is that Pit's Up Air holds the foe in and then spits 'em out at the end, while Ichigo's Up Special pushes the foe up and then bounces them off the top of the attack repeatedly. Pit's method is better for damage output, but Ichigo's could potentially be used to combo into Up Special if the opponent has already used their midair jump.

Or it could have a sweetspot at the attack's left and right edges thanks to the orb of light at the staff's tip, and hitting the opponent with the orb of light bounces them back and forth from the orb of light as it moves from one side of the attack to the other and back again (like Sora's Down Smash in Super Smash Flash 2).

That sounds really good.

A combination of all three attacks.

[JamietheAuraUser]

And when I said "combo into Up Special" I meant "combo into Up Smash". Sorry about that.

By "combination of all three attacks" do you mean it would hold foes in the way Pit's Up Aerial does, but then have pitiful ending knockback to make follow-up easier? Because that's the only way I can think of to combine all three attacks and not just two of the three.

[KingJigglypuff]

And when I said "combo into Up Special" I meant "combo into Up Smash". Sorry about that.

By "combination of all three attacks" do you mean it would hold foes in the way Pit's Up Aerial does, but then have pitiful ending knockback to make follow-up easier? Because that's the only way I can think of to combine all three attacks and not just two of the three.

Correct.

The idea would be the end of her staff would have the most knockback and anywhere else having lower knockback for the multi hit part. Then have a reasonable amount of knockback anywhere for the final hit.

[Tabuu Forte Akugun]

Palutena, eh? She just sounds so interesting, and reading through this thread makes me wanna try her out. Especially after playing with Sam for a while, I can't wait to see what you come up with.

[KingJigglypuff]

I'm steadily doing a bit more PSA work on Raptor...

Things like GFX experimentation, balancing, etc...

After seeing and playing a bit of P:M 3.0's Turbo Mode, I would like to bring up a question regarding Raptor's Combo move.

Should its on hit cancel mechanic work like P:M's Turbo Mode (moves can cancel into anything other than itself)?

Or should it stay the same? Open the Spoiler for more details on the current mechanic.

-Tilts can cancel into Smash Attacks and other Tilts.
-Up Tilt can also cancel into a Jump.
-Smash Attacks can cancel into Tilts, Specials, and other Smash Attacks.
-Up Smash can also cancel into Aerials and Midair Jump.
-Specials can cancel into Tilts, Smash Attacks, Aerials, and other Specials.

Edit: Pervy said that he might be able to do the Palutena model edits soon, but it's not a guarantee.

Palutena, eh? She just sounds so interesting, and reading through this thread makes me wanna try her out. Especially after playing with Sam for a while, I can't wait to see what you come up with.

Thanks.

Glad you're interested.

[ChickenPuppy]

I'm also intersted in this warrior from the skies .____.

[KingJigglypuff]

Might as well bump with a mild update with two things.

-Pervy said he should be able to work on Palutena soon.
-I'm slowly working on Raptor updates. New Up Special, Balancing, Spec Maps for the scaly body, and possibly a Rim Lighting version.

I'm also intersted in this warrior from the skies .____.

Thanks for your interest. xP

[KingJigglypuff]

Good News and Bad News, regarding Raptor.

Good News.
-Fully working Up Special. Quite similar to P:M's Charizard's Down Special, if not identical. Though unlike P:M's Charizard, the move can also be done in the air, but you'll be unable to use the move again until you land or get hit.
-Revamped Dash Attack utility. Hold A to increase the duration of Bicycle Kick. GFX markers indicate when to let go of the A button to end the move early.
-Raptor is slowly becoming less underpowered. Raptor originally suffered from slow attacks and lack of KO options outside of sweetspotting. This will gradually become fixed to the fullest.
-Working on Spec Maps and possibly Rim Lighting for Raptor.

Bad News.
-I'm very close to the File Size limit for Raptor. It crashes at 526KB.
-If I can't solve the said File Size issue, then I'll have to move Raptor over onto Fox.

I'm still needing Testers for this Raptor update.

[Ultraxwing]

from what little bit i could play of the Raptor PSA (or from what is completed) besides some of the animations being wolf's. which do create hilarious dodge rolls and taunts.

onto the stuff i know is not complete.
the Side B: obviously is still stock. though a raptor dash in a similar more jumpy not dashy fashion would be cool could create some interesting moves (unless a move is thus planned)

Up B: a simple high jump. don't know where you are going with this just yet. but it has helped me dodge some annoying final smashes and get back to ledges.

From what i think is finished.

Nuetral B: this is just a standard projectile. nothing special about it besides a raptor breathing fire. that is all.

i do enjoy the dash attack, though quite spammable. but i don't have human players ATM so the lvl 16 computer being dumb can't exactly anticipate its rape.

the standard A attack. nifty flowy animation, great at interrupts and lockouts.

the smashes are really fun and i like how you used wolf's trail to make the tail have a trail.

the damage is somewhat high, and he is rather large.

this in all makes him somewhat giga rape. he or she is fast and large. this makes humongous hitboxes and i could manipulate the field. if the raptor was scaled down from 1.0 to 0.85 i think this migth fix it. or i could just be over speculating.

the finalsmash i'm not sure as to what it does, i do know i don't take knock back in itself just standard damage. with the stated problem mentioned above. this could make for a truly evil character.

all in all from what little bit i played before succumbing to boredom (been doing BrawlEx stuff allday) it has tons of potential and will defenitely be apart of my added roster. i will still play test any new builds. but i am sure to test the current build. as long as i don't win, or i just exit the game.

[KingJigglypuff]

the Side B: obviously is still stock. though a raptor dash in a similar more jumpy not dashy fashion would be cool could create some interesting moves (unless a move is thus planned).

I intend to keep this move the way it is. Though I may buff it up a bit.

Up B: a simple high jump. don't know where you are going with this just yet. but it has helped me dodge some annoying final smashes and get back to ledges.

Hold B to increase the distance gained. You can also interrupt the attack with an Air Attack. Take note Ill be changing the Animations for the Up Special as well.

Nuetral B: this is just a standard projectile. nothing special about it besides a raptor breathing fire. that is all.

Riptor. Killer Instinct.

i do enjoy the dash attack, though quite spammable. but i don't have human players ATM so the lvl 16 computer being dumb can't exactly anticipate its rape.

Lol. If you hold the A Button, you can increase the duration of the move. GFX indications tell when you can release the A Button to end the move early.

the standard A attack. nifty flowy animation, great at interrupts and lockouts.

Cool. That's what I was aiming for.

fthe smashes are really fun and i like how you used wolf's trail to make the tail have a trail.

Thanks. I might still have to buff those attacks.

fthe smashes are really fun and i like how you used wolf's trail to make the tail have a trail.

Glad you like those things.

the damage is somewhat high, and he is rather large.

this in all makes him somewhat giga rape. he or she is fast and large. this makes humongous hitboxes and i could manipulate the field. if the raptor was scaled down from 1.0 to 0.85 i think this migth fix it. or i could just be over speculating.

I think the character's size is fine. I say the hitboxes are Raptor's main weakness. Raptor and Mewtwo share this weakness.

the finalsmash i'm not sure as to what it does, i do know i don't take knock back in itself just standard damage. with the stated problem mentioned above. this could make for a truly evil character.

Raptor gains Super Armor and Attack Damage gets increased by 25% for a fixed duration.

all in all from what little bit i played before succumbing to boredom (been doing BrawlEx stuff allday) it has tons of potential and will defenitely be apart of my added roster. i will still play test any new builds. but i am sure to test the current build. as long as i don't win, or i just exit the game.

Thanks. Glad you're considering adding Raptor to your roster.

Let's hope I can get myself to work on Raptor more.

[Ultraxwing]

either way i'm in full support of this moveset. 100%

i can say one more thing about the standard smashes

the upsmash is decieving as hell. when i think the tail is going to hit someone around the uppoer most 90 degree part of the body when he is rotating up. he does not hit a target and they go right throug him.

the side smash feels extremely weak even though i can fully charge it. and it is extremely difficult to hit with.

the downsmash works when it wants to. it hits, that is great, when it doesn't hit. hooray half a second end lag.