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    « Reply #8055 on: January 09, 2012, 05:23:36 PM »


    Sure, I'll see what I can do.

    Unknown values and away!

    Ok, I'll send you it, sometime soon... Im srs here

    also, BJ96, everytime I making changes in like "unknown" or "loop" or scale ect and I save I can't open the animationData in the motionect without an freeze D:

    And take your best guess as to why Brawlbox corrupts the srt0s you're trying to edit. Im srs here

    another idea for animating - plugin support. So programmers can write plugins to help with animating. Like maybe make small physics plugins for articles of clothing/bones during animation or something.  Or if your animating kirby, we can make him "jiggle" when he does quick movements. I dunno just ideas.

    The only problem with that is I have no flipping idea how I would code that.
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    « Reply #8056 on: January 09, 2012, 05:32:30 PM »


    another idea for animating - plugin support. So programmers can write plugins to help with animating. Like maybe make small physics plugins for articles of clothing/bones during animation or something.  Or if your animating kirby, we can make him "jiggle" when he does quick movements. I dunno just ideas.

    Instead of making a plugin, just make a program that applies edits to the CHR0 directly. It should be easier, right?
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    « Reply #8057 on: January 09, 2012, 05:34:25 PM »


    here's an idea 8D

    .REL export to .CPP
    (if they were built in C++, they can be decompiled in C++)

    I will gladly learn C++ if you get that working Wink

    or better yet, I'll build a C++ to Python to C++ converter. XDD
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    « Reply #8058 on: January 09, 2012, 05:56:18 PM »


    Plugin support... Anyone who wants to write code for Brawlbox can do that with the open source code, as well as the separate openbrawlbox. At least that's what I'm doing and it's fine for me...

    Also, take your time BJ. We're all busy with our own things.
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    « Reply #8059 on: January 09, 2012, 06:10:21 PM »


    Heavy: I am very happy Happy Face

    I'm so glad I never deleted my OS I had on my last compy ^_^
    (I have it set up again)
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    « Reply #8060 on: January 09, 2012, 08:38:03 PM »


    Hey BJ, I've added quite a few bones to fox's boneset. and I've got a couple of questions.

    Click The spoiler to see how I have the bones for Krystal's Staff set up.

    The staff will be rigged to a single bone for animation purposes, cause obviously all those bones would be cumbersome(Yes I know the definition of that word ) to animate with. The ones along the staff are for graphics, and the several bones outside the staff are there for obvious reasons.

    1: Do the new bones added by the bone adder work in psa?
    2: If so can they be used to make animated graphics? By attaching a graphic to said bone and possibly animating it.
    3: Will I be able to make a 'false' projectile (Meaning a fake projectile that works like a real one) using this bone?

    None of the graphic/hitbox bones will be rigged to the staff itself, they're all children of that single parent bone I mentioned earlier.

    EDIT:

    Also, an idea would be to transform an added bone into one of those cool "Visibility" bones Cheesy
    You know, like links second sword/shield and things like that? Of course it would only work on bones added by the bone adder...
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    « Reply #8061 on: January 09, 2012, 09:10:10 PM »


    Why not just rig it to his gun?
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    « Reply #8062 on: January 09, 2012, 09:14:16 PM »


    Why not just rig it to his gun?

    I used fox's boneset for the easy tail rigging, the import will be over zelda...
    Mainly for PSA size limit, Krystal will need a lot of graphics and proper placement of hitboxes for her psa to be good. and Fox's limit is very small compared to Zelda's solo PSA limit which is

    200+ KB.
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    « Reply #8063 on: January 10, 2012, 03:14:44 AM »


    Plugin support... Anyone who wants to write code for Brawlbox can do that with the open source code, as well as the separate openbrawlbox. At least that's what I'm doing and it's fine for me...

    Also, take your time BJ. We're all busy with our own things.

    yeh, i can write for animation plugin support, but i dont know much about the source code.  I havent looked at it in about over a year and back then i didnt understand it. Ill try again i guess.

    Instead of making a plugin, just make a program that applies edits to the CHR0 directly. It should be easier, right?

    I said plugin so you can directly see the results of what your plugin does. If you make a program to edit CHR0s directly, you wouldnt be able to see what just happened.
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    « Reply #8064 on: January 10, 2012, 05:14:45 AM »


    I used fox's boneset for the easy tail rigging, the import will be over zelda... Mainly for PSA size limit, Krystal will need a lot of graphics and proper placement of hitboxes for her psa to be good. and Fox's limit is very small compared to Zelda's solo PSA limit which is 200+ KB.
    Im srs here Fox's file size limit can go up past 500KB. I should know because I worked with his PSA file.
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    « Reply #8065 on: January 10, 2012, 06:19:58 AM »


    Im srs here Fox's file size limit can go up past 500KB. I should know because I worked with his PSA file.
    uugh...
    what's Pika's size limit??

    I ask because I'm going to build one that surpasses the limit w/o freezing the game...
    (once I have time of course) heh
    I'm quite sure I can compensate for the overflow...
    (I highly doubt the files have an actiual limit)

    shorten the length of other datas occupying the RAM space...
    (I'm more than sure that's what's doing it)

    I mean,
    prove me wrong if you know more about the wii (and computers) than me. >:3
    (challenge accepted anyone??)
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    « Reply #8066 on: January 10, 2012, 07:15:36 AM »


    Im srs here Fox's file size limit can go up past 500KB. I should know because I worked with his PSA file.

    :>_>Palm:
    Um...there's another reason I don't want her over fox.
    Zelda actually sounds like Krystal... or close enough to it. The reason I don't use the Krystal hacks that are out now is cause it sounds weird. On top of that, fox and the other SF characters already have loads of good hacks, while Zelda has too few by comparison.
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    « Reply #8067 on: January 10, 2012, 09:46:18 AM »


    uugh...
    what's Pika's size limit??

    I ask because I'm going to build one that surpasses the limit w/o freezing the game...
    (once I have time of course) heh
    I'm quite sure I can compensate for the overflow...
    (I highly doubt the files have an actiual limit)

    shorten the length of other datas occupying the RAM space...
    (I'm more than sure that's what's doing it)

    I mean,
    prove me wrong if you know more about the wii (and computers) than me. >:3
    (challenge accepted anyone??)
    I don't know. I never worked with Pikachu before. :/
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    « Reply #8068 on: January 10, 2012, 12:27:50 PM »


    hey BJ...
    mind lending a hand ??

    all I need is to know how to actually load an mdl0 file...
    (sin'e I've never worked on an actual loader before) :/

    I'm not going to get specific,
    but this will help me out in 3 areas. :|

    EDIT:
    I mean,
    IK there's more to loading it than just simply using a for on each list...

    it's alot more technical than that as Brbx shows it...

    but I can't understand it for crap and need some input... >_<
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    « Reply #8069 on: January 10, 2012, 12:34:22 PM »


    yeh, i can write for animation plugin support, but i dont know much about the source code.  I havent looked at it in about over a year and back then i didnt understand it. Ill try again i guess.

    I said plugin so you can directly see the results of what your plugin does. If you make a program to edit CHR0s directly, you wouldnt be able to see what just happened.

    Actually, I've made an animation exporter for 3DS Max, it's not a plugin for Brawlbox but I think it's what you're referring to.

    And Tcll, I could probably help you with loading a mdl0 file. You're loading it to Blender, right?
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