Let's look into Module Fíles (.rel) - Defensive Collision is now!

[pikazz]

hi, I made this thread so we can collect all the Module information, try to understand that and how to rebuild them.
this is a very hard task, the legends of brawlhacking Dant and Phantomwings looked into it much but they desiced to take a life-long break before they have complete it.
so lets continue their footsteps.

What is Module File?
Module Files (.rel) is there all the information is about characters, stages, menu.
it can example say how many brres one stage will load in a pac, if any event like things that can hurt you in stage load, Characters Articles like Lucarios Aura Sphere.

How much information is it about Module files?
currently not much, only Dant and Phantomwings knows it like 20 times more than us and that sadly true pretty little.
the only things we know is how they work since Phantomwings gave that's information out.
but we know there is ASM in Module Files

Module IDs

IDs:

00 - main.dol?
01 - sora_scene
02 - sora_menu_main
03 - sora_menu_tour
04 - sora_menu_qm
05 - sora_menu_edit
06 - sora_menu_collect_viewer
07 - sora_menu_replay
08 - sora_menu_snap_shot
09 - sora_menu_event
0A - sora_menu_sel_char
0B - sora_menu_sel_stage
0C - sora_menu_game_over
0D - sora_menu_intro
0E - sora_menu_friend_list
0F - sora_menu_watch
10 - sora_menu_name
11 - sora_menu_sel_char_access
12 - sora_menu_rule
13 - sora_menu_simple_ending
14 - sora_minigame
15 - sora_menu_time_result
16 - sora_menu_boot
17 - sora_menu_challenger
18 - sora_menu_title
19 - sora_menu_title_sunset
1A - sora_fig_get_demo
1B - sora_melee
1C - sora_adv_menu_name
1D - sora_adv_menu_visual
1E - sora_adv_menu_sel_char
1F - sora_adv_menu_sel_map
20 - sora_adv_menu_difficulty
21 - sora_adv_menu_game_over
22 - sora_adv_menu_result
23 - sora_adv_menu_save_load
24 - sora_adv_menu_seal
25 - sora_adv_menu_ending
26 - sora_adv_menu_telop
27 - sora_adv_menu_save_point
28 - sora_adv_stage
29 - sora_enemy
2A - st_battles
2B - st_battle
2C - st_config
2D - st_final
2E - st_dolpic
2F - st_mansion
30 - st_mariopast
31 - st_kart
32 - st_donkey
33 - st_jungle
34 - st_pirates
35 - st_oldin
36 - st_norfair
37 - st_orpheon
38 - st_crayon
39 - st_halberd
3A - st_starfox
3B - st_stadium
3C - st_tengan
3D - st_fzero
3E - st_ice
3F - st_gw
40 - st_emblem
41 - st_madein
42 - st_earth
43 - st_palutena
44 - st_famicom
45 - st_newpork
46 - st_village
47 - st_metalgear
48 - st_greenhill
49 - st_pictchat
4A - st_plankton
4B - st_dxshrine
4C - st_dxyorster
4D - st_dxgarden
4E - st_dxonett
4F - st_dxgreens
50 - st_dxrcruise
51 - st_dxbigblue
52 - st_dxcorneria
53 - st_dxpstadium
54 - st_dxzebes
55 - st_stageedit
56 - st_otrain
57 - st_heal
58 - st_homerun
59 - st_targetbreak
5A - st_croll
5B - ft_mario
5C - ft_donkey
5D - ft_link
5E - ft_samus
5F - ft_yoshi
60 - ft_kirby
61 - ft_fox
62 - ft_pikachu
63 - ft_luigi
64 - ft_captain
65 - ft_ness
66 - ft_koopa
67 - ft_peach
68 - ft_zelda
69 - ft_iceclimber
6A - ft_marth
6B - ft_gamewatch
6C - ft_falco
6D - ft_ganon
6E - ft_wario
6F - ft_metaknight
70 - ft_pit
71 - ft_pikmin
72 - ft_lucas
73 - ft_diddy
74 - ft_poke
75 - ft_dedede
76 - ft_lucario
77 - ft_ike
78 - ft_robot
79 - ft_toonlink
7A - ft_snake
7B - ft_sonic
7C - ft_purin
7D - ft_wolf
7E - ft_zako

What is ASM?
ASM stands for Assembly language
here is a wiki about ASM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assembly_language

ASM simplies
here is a great site to see all the ASM doing like li, stw, blr ect
http://class.ee.iastate.edu/cpre211/labs/quickrefPPC.html


Any helpful information or links?
http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=29937.0 The information Phantomwhings gave us personally on how stages works.
http://opensa.dantarion.com/wiki/Patching_Charcter_Modules a helpful wiki done by Dant and that's more about Characters to "patch"

PW's Gift
he gave us a gift :3
look at his post!

sneak, snea-

...

Oh, who am I kidding.

Hi everyone, Phantom Wings here. I haven't been by for a while now so I figured I'd drop by and pay my regards to the Brawl Hacking community. I notice that there's been a little bit of interest in the workings of .rels in this here thread so:

[Download]

[Source]

I had this one on the backburner before I left the last time. It's not as intuitive as the Module Editor 2, but it does support editing blocks and relocations as well as saving - hope it helps.

The app itself isn't that well put together, but the module library should be easy enough to salvage for use in BrawlBox - but as usual, don't expect any commenting in my source code.

That's all for now. See you guys around.

[♤♡◇♧]

I suggest to also take a look at the sora_melee.rel (sora standing for 'shared object random access'), as that module is basically the main module and contains scripts for things like items (both normal items and assist trophies), stages, characters (like Lucario's Aura Sphere) and even basic things like collisions, sounds and tethers.

[pikazz]

I suggest to also take a look at the sora_melee.rel (sora standing for 'shared object random access'), as that module is basically the main module and contains scripts for things like items (both normal items and assist trophies), stages, characters (like Lucario's Aura Sphere) and even basic things like collisions, sounds and tethers.

I know but I haven't got into that big file yet, just on stage and characters to begin with

it looks like Modules are ASM o.o
cause it reminds me of SMW hacking ASM but way more advanced

[Sky Grounder]

Subbed to thread, this is interesting stuff! I can't help much though, I don't know ASM at all (if that's what's used in module files).

[KnightMario]

sweet.
so will I be able to do stuff like port sonic's final smash to mario?
because that would be epic.
and don't forget blackjax is working on these too.

[Eternal Yoshi]

I'm subbing too, though I don't know PPC ASM yet.

I want to learn how to make more generic.rel files like the one Phantom Wings made for Ike.

[DoctorFlux(Mariodk)]

sweet.
so will I be able to do stuff like port sonic's final smash to mario?
because that would be epic.
and don't forget blackjax is working on these too.

that will be a awesome FS for Cape mode on SMBZ mario (tried to make it before without transfrom but just with moving around/make dmg like as Super sonic but failed)

[pikazz]

added stuff in OP

will try to replace the bob-ombs in sudden death to pokeballs, that's my next project in modules

sweet.
so will I be able to do stuff like port sonic's final smash to mario?
because that would be epic.
and don't forget blackjax is working on these too.

yeah but we must know where to port and how to port

[checkmate]

The .pdf at the following link may prove useful for ASM.

http://wiird.l0nk.org/forum/index.php/topic,2844.0.html

This has me interested if I can further my studies.

I hope this helps,

-checkmate

[pikazz]

here is a wiki page about ASM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assembly_language

and I have found a site about "ASM simplier" code whichs Modules also using!

http://class.ee.iastate.edu/cpre211/labs/quickrefPPC.html

The .pdf at the following link may prove useful for ASM.

http://wiird.l0nk.org/forum/index.php/topic,2844.0.html

This has me interested if I can further my studies.

I hope this helps,

-checkmate

that's great :3

[SonicBrawler]

yes. i support this. i have been wanting moduel files to be explored. imagine if we could make ssbb like street fighter or mortal kombat

plus the fact porting characters could be done easiyer if a program is made

[ForOhFor Error]

Of course it's in assembly, it's probably compiled C++

[Eternal Yoshi]

Pikazz, we don't even know which file would trigger the sudden death bombs.

Maybe start smaller by modding something that we know which file(s) to look in to?

Can we try to say, gather more data on how stage module files store and organize their hitboxes?

[SonicBrawler]

I'm subbing too, though I don't know PPC ASM yet.

I want to learn how to make more generic.rel files like the one Phantom Wings made for Ike.

what was the point of it? was it so that it is easyer to port ike hacks? because i can port ike hacks w/out the generic .rel adn just a reg one

[Eternal Yoshi]

But generic .rel ports are better overall since they have functional articles, unlike most PSA ports.