Brawlbox Resources & History

[pikazz]

I am in love with the things you will add! yay for a proper REL editor, yay for (Finally) interpolartion and yay for Ikarus! <3

could you do the thing I recommended? a "Set Key" and "Automate Key" button? trust me, many animaters can be happy about it!

[SiLeNtDo0m]

Interpolation editing is complete:

You can drag the blue line to change the frame, drag the keyframes to anywhere, view all of the interpolation or just a the selected keyframe, modify the tangent slopes, and turn off tangent generation. I also added a button under View->Animations to run CHR0, SRT0 or SHP0 linearly (the button in the image above that says Linear Display doesn't run the animation linearly, it only displays the interpolation as linear). The display changes automatically when you click the different animation boxes.

The only thing else I could add would be the ability to drag the tangent points, but I was hesitant about that since the screen adjusts itself to display all of the interpolation and would most likely mess up the dragging. I guess I could try it.

Sums up me feelings nicely

[Sky Grounder]

A shader can have up to 16 stages. A stage holds color interpolation information to blend colors together from various sources (with the previous stage's output color, usually). You can add a stage to a shader by right clicking it -> Add Stage.

The shader only combines/blends colors together, it doesn't do anything else.
Everything else is handled by the material.

Color and Alpha are always used by the shader. The display of alpha and opacity is determined by the material, not the shader, by using Alpha Testing or Blending, respectively.

Lighting can be enabled through the LightChannels in the material. You can enable Color and Alpha lighting there. If you disable Color for LightChannel1, the material will appear to glow since it won't be shadowed.

Here's some more specs that I never finished:
http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=39649.msg801237#msg801237

Makes me wonder why Shaders aren't directly a part of Materials.

[Novarek]

Lighting can be enabled through the LightChannels in the material. You can enable Color and Alpha lighting there. If you disable Color for LightChannel1, the material will appear to glow since it won't be shadowed.

Oh i have almost forget, BrawlBox does not save the value of MaterialColor I change in the LightChannel1.

With a "save as" the values return to the default setting and with a "save" BrawlBox won't save at all.

EDIT : i'm gonna try with a older version of brawlBox, see if it's work.

EDIT 2 : Work with v66.

[BlackJax96]

Oh i have almost forget, BrawlBox does not save the value of MaterialColor I change in the LightChannel1.

With a "save as" the values return to the default setting and with a "save" BrawlBox won't save at all.

EDIT : i'm gonna try with a older version of brawlBox, see if it's work.

EDIT 2 : Work with v66.

Fixed, thanks for reporting. It will work in v0.69.

In the meantime, a workaround would be to change another value in the material that's not in the light channel settings.

Makes me wonder why Shaders aren't directly a part of Materials.

Because maybe you'd want two materials that display the same texture in the exact same way, except one uses transparent pixels and one doesn't. Alpha testing, which enables transparent pixels, is controlled by the material, so it's more efficient if the two use the same shader instead of two seperate ones in each material that do the exact same thing.

I think memory management might be the only reason though. When generating a GLSL shader for OpenGL, the material and the shader are combined into one fragment shader.

Sums up me feelings nicely

lol I knew you'd love it
It's about time we could edit the interpolation anyway
I'm somewhat surprised you guys have coped without editing the tangent slopes.

So all the stage of a shader work together at the same time ?
Or they are only active under certain conditions ?

They're always active and applied in order. The first stages blends some colors, then the next stage takes its output color ("PreviousColor") and blends it with some more colors.

Each stage sends its output color to the "PreviousRegister" usually (I'm assuming this defaults to Register0), but there are three different registers you can output the color to. I'm not sure how this works exactly so its best to leave it at PreviousRegister.

[Ulala]

Hey BlackJax, out of the things planned currently, which is the most anticipated feature that has yet to come?

I'm really hoping for an easier way to create animations. I have so many custom taunt animations in Mario Kart Wii & SSBB, that it'll take forever to finish them all. Got 7/10 of them down and they're all dance animations for Ulala (plus combining them into a looping 989 frame animation).

[Sky Grounder]

It's about time we could edit the interpolation anyway
I'm somewhat surprised you guys have coped without editing the tangent slopes.

That's actually one of the main reasons why I never became an animator. I couldn't change the "smoothness" of turning points (keyframes), so I never really got satisfied with even the simplest stage animations.

[Novarek]

You have to add a new REFF and EFLS entry, link the new REFF entry to the EFLS entry by name and set the BRRES id if you want to attach a model to the effect, then call the newly added effect in PSA with the External Graphic event using the index of the new EFLS entry.

If you want to link textures to the REFF, you can do that with REFT, and if you want to link an effect to a model bone, you can do that with an RE3D entry added to the EFLS entry, which has its BRRES ID linked to a brres with a model.

Although you can't add REFF entries it seems, so I'll add a button for that in the next version.

Wait, does that mean now we can simply copy/past a external GFX into another character and we have only need to set a new index and fit the new BRRES ID ???

[BlackJax96]

Hey BlackJax, out of the things planned currently, which is the most anticipated feature that has yet to come?

I'm really hoping for an easier way to create animations. I have so many custom taunt animations in Mario Kart Wii & SSBB, that it'll take forever to finish them all. Got 7/10 of them down and they're all dance animations for Ulala (plus combining them into a looping 989 frame animation).

I dunnur. Sounds like you want Inverse Kinematics, and they may or may not be coming soon.

That's actually one of the main reasons why I never became an animator. I couldn't change the "smoothness" of turning points (keyframes), so I never really got satisfied with even the simplest stage animations.

Well now you'll have no excuse.
I'm looking forward to those animations huehhuehhuehhuehhuehhueh

Wait, does that mean now we can simply copy/past a external GFX into another character and we have only need to set a new index and fit the new BRRES ID ???

pretty much

[Novarek]

pretty much

Amazing !

I'm gonna try tomorow.

EDIT : holy sh** that work !
Swapping a external GFX gonna be realy easy now, thanks a lot BlackJax !  


EDIT 2 :
Does it's possible for the next version of brawlBox, to have an option who add directly one new vis0, pat0.... entry in all the animation data and with the possibility to rename at the same time all file in the animation data who share the same name ?

This little thing can make the work of a animator a lot faster and beak the boring part.
Please & thanks !  

[DarkPikachu]

Fixed, thanks for reporting. It will work in v0.69. In the meantime, a workaround would be to change another value in the material that's not in the light channel settings. Because maybe you'd want two materials that display the same texture in the exact same way, except one uses transparent pixels and one doesn't. Alpha testing, which enables transparent pixels, is controlled by the material, so it's more efficient if the two use the same shader instead of two seperate ones in each material that do the exact same thing. I think memory management might be the only reason though. When generating a GLSL shader for OpenGL, the material and the shader are combined into one fragment shader. lol I knew you'd love it It's about time we could edit the interpolation anyway I'm somewhat surprised you guys have coped without editing the tangent slopes. They're always active and applied in order. The first stages blends some colors, then the next stage takes its output color ("PreviousColor") and blends it with some more colors. Each stage sends its output color to the "PreviousRegister" usually (I'm assuming this defaults to Register0), but there are three different registers you can output the color to. I'm not sure how this works exactly so its best to leave it at PreviousRegister.

now explain the GL Advanced Texturing layer X3
(Since the wii doesn't have a "GPU" which shaders are compiled on)

[yadayada]

It's been a while since I've done anything brawl modding related in a while. I have one question: Is direct animation importing from an outside source possible with Brawlbox? Sorry if it's answered already somewhere in this thread, but I'd rather not sift through an epoch's worth of pages.

[DSX8]

It's been a while since I've done anything brawl modding related in a while. I have one question: Is direct animation importing from an outside source possible with Brawlbox? Sorry if it's answered already somewhere in this thread, but I'd rather not sift through an epoch's worth of pages.

if u can get the animations into 3ds max, then u can use the animation exporter script for 3ds max, and it'll be saved as a .txt file.. then just use BB to import that .txt file and it'll turn into a chr0. but warning, it gives it a big filesize.

[Eternal Yoshi]

There's a script included in teh newer Brawlbox revisions that lets you export animations from 3ds max to a .txt file that the new BB reads. However, the script is very picky on what bones/helpers it reads. It must be bones from Brawl .daes for it to work. Most other models's bones will not work.

Another catch is that sometimes a bone just get flatout ignored.

The reason it outputs a huge filesize is because it keyframes just about every frame, even if the bone only has 1 keyframe in 3ds max.

[DarkPikachu]

The reason it outputs a huge filesize is because it keyframes just about every frame, even if the bone only has 1 keyframe in 3ds max.

DarkPikachu is displeased

if I studied the CHR0 format better I could make a better blender 26 I/O script for you guys.
BJ, you need to improve that or something...

otherwize people will get oversize issues.